Here’s How Many People Have Fatally Overdosed On Marijuana

Nick Danger

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You google it. I got nothing out of google with that tag line.

You could try some similar search parameters, the information isn't hidden. But you don't really want to find anything, do you? I stand by my assertion that marijuana, for all it's positive benefits, is far from harmless.

For me the litmus test in choosing to use or not has always been "Why?". If you can answer that honestly and objectively and still come up with an answer you can live with, then have at 'er. At the end of the day it's a personal choice.
 
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Jinentonix

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You could try some similar search parameters, the information isn't hidden. But you don't really want to find anything, do you? I stand by my assertion that marijuana, for all it's positive benefits, is far from harmless.
Your last sentence could also just as easily apply to Vitamin A.
 

lone wolf

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You could try some similar search parameters, the information isn't hidden. But you don't really want to find anything, do you? I stand by my assertion that marijuana, for all it's positive benefits, is far from harmless.
You can find or make anything say what you want it to say. The Bible's an excellent example. Nothing is harmless - for a while
 

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I think it's like alcoholism it's degenerative to our society. It becomes your focus in life. Your one goal to achieve everyday.
It's a easy trap for youth to fall into and ruin their opportunities like becoming a Carpenter instead of a doctor.
 

Danbones

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I think it's like alcoholism it's degenerative to our society. It becomes your focus in life. Your one goal to achieve everyday.
It's a easy trap for youth to fall into and ruin their opportunities like becoming a Carpenter instead of a doctor.
I'm not so sure being a carpenter is such a bad thing:
"Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 225,000 People Every Year"
Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 225,000 People Every Year

...and maybe some of you missed this googling "marijuana-related-deaths"
Marijuana Related Deaths | MMYV
The primary dangers from smoking Pot appear to be like I said upthread:
HEMPatitis, gangGREEN, and SPLIFFilis...
oh, and not to mention that dread super killer:
HAPPYNESS!
ah, the GRIN Reaper strikes again!
 

MHz

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I think it's like alcoholism it's degenerative to our society. It becomes your focus in life. Your one goal to achieve everyday.
It's a easy trap for youth to fall into and ruin their opportunities like becoming a Carpenter instead of a doctor.
We are talking the old and decrepit people here (you included) rather than the young and inactive (due to the recession). The young need hobbies they can follow through on as it keeps the mind occupied in a productive way, the old need something healthier than commercial ridden tv/radio.
If an alchy drinks everyday of the year is he more productive or less destructive to society. The persons peers should be their caretakers, like we should become yours before you become unbendable. Case in point, you have a certain hardon for one group, news flash: they do not like dogs, solution: get yourself a dog and tell us once and then whenever you feel like it you can post that you have a dog and all Muslims stay well clear of you. You could even name it after their term for Christ.

Overuse of any stimulant is bad for a person or a society, pot has been not overused so it would be like the start of legal booze and look back at how that affected society. It has to be overused and widespread before it can affect all of society that way. It could turn out that you would have to 'joint the crowd' and you might find it suits you just fine once you make it past the fridge.
 

Cliffy

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You could try some similar search parameters, the information isn't hidden. But you don't really want to find anything, do you? I stand by my assertion that marijuana, for all it's positive benefits, is far from harmless.

For me the litmus test in choosing to use or not has always been "Why?". If you can answer that honestly and objectively and still come up with an answer you can live with, then have at 'er. At the end of the day it's a personal choice.
I don't smoke because it makes me feel sick. I smoked for many years and now I can't. But there are other ways of doing it for medicinal purposes: candy, tincture, oil, cookies, brownies. My problem is that any more than one drop of oil makes me feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. One drop will lower my blood pressure. Nonetheless, I don't begrudge anybody its use, either medicinally or for pleasure. It is none of anybody else's business what people do if it is not harming others.
 

coldstream

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Habitual marijuana use will cause depression, paranoia, obsessive compulsive disorders, social isolation, lethargy, withdrawal from academic and occupational pursuits, especially for young people. Ultimately it will lead to psychosis. It is a profoundly disassociative drug without one single proven medical benefit. It derails lives. Only a vacuous little twit like Justin Trudeau believes legalizing this will do anything but disrupt the lives of vulnerable young people.
 
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lone wolf

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Did you glean that from Reefer Madness Lite? For every proof you can come up with, you can be shot down in flames ten times. Is that a win - 'cuz it's about as ridiculous as your absolute....
 

Nick Danger

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Habitual marijuana use will cause depression, paranoia, obsessive compulsive disorders, social isolation, lethargy, withdrawal from academic and social pursuits, especially for young people. Ultimately it will lead to psychosis. It is a profoundly disassociative drug without one single proven medical benefit. It derails lives. Only a vacuous little twit like Justin Trudeau believes legalizing this will do anything but disrupt the lives of vulnerable young people.

I think that's a pretty harsh and totally undeserved judgment. There is plenty of evidence that there are numerous medical benefits, and moderate use doesn't have a high price. I think that if you compared the bottom lines you'd find that the social and physical devastation caused by alcohol makes the downside of pot look insignificant in comparison.
 

damngrumpy

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The only people who need to worry are diabetics that's right they will get hungry
eat a chocolate bar and go to sleep serious indeed.
People understand where the hysteria comes from. When prohibition of booze
ended they started on MJ the killer drug to persuade government to fund the FBI
Decades later the declared war on drugs and lost.
The real fear is the governments are afraid the public will find out they wasted
over a trillion dollars on a lost cause and the public will find out the real problem
was government and the institutions of justice that made criminals out of folks
for having a toke.
People don't get abusive and violent like booze that is true as well but I am not
saying get rid of booze either. These are social issues not criminal issues and
no amount of law is going to stop it
 

coldstream

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I think that's a pretty harsh and totally undeserved judgment. There is plenty of evidence that there are numerous medical benefits, and moderate use doesn't have a high price. I think that if you compared the bottom lines you'd find that the social and physical devastation caused by alcohol makes the downside of pot look insignificant in comparison.

There has never been one iota of evidence that marijuana has remedial properties.. when the tests are based on accepted double blind studies of sufficient samples, and when all of the other properties of cannabis smoke are excluded.. and don't think they haven't tried.

All the marijuana industry relies on is maudlin anecdote. Even if there was a medical use for it, the only acceptable way of administering would be in pure THC form by way of pill, injection or patch. That would exclude the 60 some odd substances in marijuana smoke, none of which have been tested, and most are likely as toxic and carcinogenic as tobacco smoke.

But the marijuana lobby absolutely opposes this because they know smoking is deeply engrained in cannabis culture. This is part of the schtick of the industry to paint a picture of wonder drug and social panacea. Marijuana will always remain a potentially far more destructive substance than alcohol, which for 95% of the population is well tolerated and moderately used and is well assimilated in our culture.

Marijuana doesn't have that middle ground. It is stored in body fat and released on minimal stimulus. You are essentially always stoned on marijuana. It is disastrous for young people who get caught up in it.
 

Danbones

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Habitual marijuana use will cause depression, paranoia, obsessive compulsive disorders, social isolation, lethargy, withdrawal from academic and occupational pursuits, especially for young people. Ultimately it will lead to psychosis. It is a profoundly disassociative drug without one single proven medical benefit. It derails lives. Only a vacuous little twit like Justin Trudeau believes legalizing this will do anything but disrupt the lives of vulnerable young people.
You have that backwards:
People who have that underlying set of conditions self medicate while the actual causes increase over time and become apparent as they out race the medication.
The problem is that 95 percent of the nuero transmitters are manufactured in the gut and due to antibiotics, vaccines, pesticides, GMos, and other assaults of modern corporate life, they can become severely curtailed, with the resulting symptoms becoming evident.

so as for the tone of your post
considering how wrong you actually are
right back atcha
"Antibiotic-associated encephalopathy"
Antibiotic-associated encephalopathy

"Mental Health May Depend on Creatures in the Gut"
Mental Health May Depend on Creatures in the Gut - Scientific American

"The Gut-Brain Connection, Mental Illness, and Disease"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...t-brain-connection-mental-illness-and-disease

How marijuana treats the gut and so the mental conditions that you MISTAKENLY blamed on the pot:
"Leaky Gut Syndrome: Cannabinoids and the Endocannabinoid System (ECS) as a therapeutic target - Leaky Gut Syndrome: Cannabinoids and the Endocannabinoid System (ECS) as a therapeutic target

There has never been one iota of evidence that marijuana has remedial properties.. when the tests are based on accepted double blind studies of sufficient samples, and when all of the other properties of cannabis smoke are excluded.. and don't think they haven't tried.

All the marijuana industry relies on is maudlin anecdote. Even if there was a medical use for it, the only acceptable way of administering would be in pure THC form by way of pill, injection or patch. That would exclude the 60 some odd substances in marijuana smoke, none of which have been tested, and most are likely as toxic and carcinogenic as tobacco smoke.

But the marijuana lobby absolutely opposes this because they know smoking is deeply engrained in cannabis culture. This is part of the schtick of the industry to paint a picture of wonder drug and social panacea. Marijuana will always remain a potentially far more destructive substance than alcohol, which for 95% of the population is well tolerated and moderately used and is well assimilated in our culture.

Marijuana doesn't have that middle ground. It is stored in body fat and released on minimal stimulus. You are essentially always stoned on marijuana. It is disastrous for young people who get caught up in it.

see my post above:
it's a shame to have to call BS on A hole post
but its just an answer to your tone and lack of up to date supporting citations

"Clinical Studies and Case Reports...
...On this site you will find clinical studies with cannabis or single cannabinoids in different diseases and case reports on the use of cannabis by patients.
You may search for diseases (indications), authors, medication, study design (controlled study, open trial, case report etc.) and other criteria. "
Clinical Studies and Case Reports

"The scientific conclusions of the overwhelmingly majority of modern research directly conflicts with the federal government's stance that cannabis is a highly dangerous substance worthy of absolute criminalization.

For example, in February 2010 investigators at the University of California Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research publicly announced the findings of a series of randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials on the medical utility of inhaled cannabis. The studies, which utilized the so-called 'gold standard' FDA clinical trial design, concluded that marijuana ought to be a "first line treatment" for patients with neuropathy and other serious illnesses."
NORML.org - Working to Reform Marijuana Laws

"...OVER 100 SCIENTIFIC STUDIES AGREE: CANNABIS ANNIHILATES CANCER...
...For the naysayers out there who are still not convinced about the effectiveness of cannabis for curing cancer, the astounding healing attributes of the plant are well documented by a wealth of peer-reviewed studies"
Over 100 Scientific Studies Agree: Cannabis Annihilates Cancer

but then cops need pot to be illegal because they can't catch real criminals...
(even when the criminals are stoned and the cops are not )
the banks need to launder the money...
the politicians have to pay for their under age hookers...
and the cartels in Mexico need their free automatic weapons from the US government...
profits profits profits


refer ence madness

OPIOIDS KILL HUNDREDS OF CANADIANS A YEAR. WHY ARE DOCTORS STILL PRESCRIBING SO MANY?
Opioids Kill Hundreds of Canadians a Year. Why Are Doctors Still Prescribing So Many?

talk about ruined lives

here is some:
"Alcohol one of Canada’s top health threats: Study
The Centre for Addiction and Mental Health published a new report Wednesday which marks alcohol as one of the greatest public health threats in Canada."
Alcohol one of Canada’s top health threats: Study | Toronto Star
 
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Frankiedoodle

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You go coldstream. I've got your back. Why people don't understand how dangerous weed is for teenagers and those in the young twenties. Do people not understand what psychosis means.