Health Care Crisis

HarperCons

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Health Care is in crisis all across Canada.

Here in NB, we have it BAD.

This happened in Fredericton.

Working at my local hospital, it's stressful as hell, and we're only open 8 hours now thanks to lack of staff.

And while blame is put on the Feds, this isn't just on them. Nor do I blame them for wanting to put conditions on any further money sent to the provinces.

The Premiers met in BC this week to discuss the issue.

I've little hope any of them had any ideas because it seems that while they want to 'do' things, they don't ask the people who are directly involved, rather they leave it to outsiders or people who have been out of the profession for a while.

I've personally thought that a two tier system may be our only option at this point. I do NOT want to see a US style system, but our current one just isn't working anymore.
when has capitalism ever shown it can provide proper healthcare?
 

petros

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If you aren't a repeat offender on meth, shit happens quickly in Canada but nothing like the US where see your GP in the AM a see a specialist within 48 hours and surgery within a week if needed.

A daily coffee costs more than primo private healthcare insurance.
 
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harrylee

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If you aren't a repeat offender on meth, shit happens quickly in Canada but nothing like the US where see your GP in the AM a see a specialist within 48 hours and surgery within a week if needed.

A daily coffee costs more than primo private hethcare insurance.
Is a coffee in the US $50?
Cus I have read about people paying $1500+/month
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Is a coffee in the US $50?
Cus I have read about people paying $1500+/month
For a family of four, it's between $US 1000 and $US 1500 per month. On average, employers pick up 73% of the tab, if you have health insurance as part of your compensation.

The way we got that system, by the way, is that during World War II, we had a wage freeze, so employers had to compete for employees by offering attractive "fringe benefit" packages. The war ended, the wage freeze ended, but the system lived on. Go figure.
 

petros

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For a family of four, it's between $US 1000 and $US 1500 per month. On average, employers pick up 73% of the tab, if you have health insurance as part of your compensation.

The way we got that system, by the way, is that during World War II, we had a wage freeze, so employers had to compete for employees by offering attractive "fringe benefit" packages. The war ended, the wage freeze pp, ĺ1eeelp the system lived on. Go figure.
With or without Medicaid and Pharma Corporations offering Co-Pay(CO-OP)?

Pacific BlueCross was around $125CAD ea for myself and my female giraffe counterpart with all the accoutrements in CA. US and abroad with a very reasonable deductible.

You're own health plan is a great bargaining chip when negotiating wage and per diem in today's fascist mobile professional biologically, chemically and geometrically aware workforce who don't advertise on the transit system for customers.
 

petros

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Why only now are you taking interest? I get the bias aspect but I dont get the closed mind aspect? This crisis has been going on for damn near two decades.

The influx of Filipinos saved the Cdn system from crashing 10 years ago but as relatively recent immigrants they dont complain or speak up. I'd be scared too but at some point it will click in that their careers and future are secure.

Then mandates pushed out 25% of very experienced Canadian staff and now we are super screwed. Now Provincial Govts are giving exemption to healthcare workers out of desperation to combat losses thrust upon the system by the Trudeau Govt.
 

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A local doctor - who worked both ER and Family Practice - and who I respect a lot, and consider a friend, posted this about the crisis.

"The biggest mistake the media is making when they discuss the current health care system crisis is the constant mention of nurse and physician "burnout". People leaving jobs that have become unpleasant and dangerous (liability-wise) aren't usually burned out. They're angry. This is about dissatisfaction with work environments that were created by health care bureaucrats. It's not about a lack of resilience among ER staff. The solutions to a burnout crisis are quite different from the solutions to a job dissatisfaction crisis. Using the wrong word encourages the wrong solutions."

I think it's both, myself, but focusing on just one aspect of the problem will not solve it.
 

petros

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No shit eh? Same stuff I heard from my partner and our families who are or were in the industry for 4 decades?