Hawking backs possibility for humans to travel millions of years into the future

[darkbeaver]

True, so how will they go to it?

It is in the knowledge of God: i.e. God only knows about it.
And He chooses some of His apostles and acquaints him with some of the fore-future knowledge.

( [God:] The All-Knowing of the fore-future, and He does never acquaint any [of His creatures] about His knowledge of the fore-future.​

Save only to any messenger whom He likes [to acquaint with some of the fore-future knowledge]; so He appoints watching[-angels] to go behind him and in front of him.​

That the [watching-angels] may know that the [messengers] have delivered the messages of their Lord [to bear witness for them]; [even though] He has comprehended all that [works and words] they have [done], and has noted all things by number.)​

EA you can see the control mechanism of an institution in that, complete with the necessary compartmentalization, and the handlers. Seeing the future and going into the future are two different things. If I posses star charts and am aware of the cycles I can certainly predict the future with great accuracy, knowledge of any science would give me predictive supremacy, this is the work of not god, it is the work of superiors.

 

[eanassir]

To go to the future or to the past is impossible as I think.

To know the future is impossible unless God acquaints some of His servants about some of the fore-future knowledge.
To see the past: this may happen by God's permission: He gives the science and knowledge to people so they may become able to see the past events in the present time.

First: to go to the future or the past (as known by many of people): this is impossible because this will lead to interference and change in the events that happened in the past: so the history will change; and how it comes to be the history as is it known and it has changed? so this can't be.

On the other hand: to go to the future it is impossible: also because it will lead to change in the coming events.
Now, suppose this is possible and they will be able to go to the future, then knowledge and science of the future people will be known to us. Moreover, they may have come and talked to us now (when they came from the future or the past) the thing that did not happen; and this is only imaginary and fiction.

 

[eanassir]

EA you can see the control mechanism of an institution in that, complete with the necessary compartmentalization, and the handlers. Seeing the future and going into the future are two different things. If I posses star charts and am aware of the cycles I can certainly predict the future with great accuracy, knowledge of any science would give me predictive supremacy, this is the work of not god, it is the work of superiors.

DB, the prediction of some astronomical events like the eclipses for example, this is not the fore-future knowledge; but this is according to science studies they may predict such events and the weather.

But events of social and political changes and wars and the marriage and the death and the birth of so many children and what man may obtain tomorrow, or where he will die and what hour of his death; this is only up to God the All-Knowing.

As in the Quran 31: 34

إِنَّ اللَّهَ عِندَهُ عِلْمُ السَّاعَةِ وَيُنَزِّلُ الْغَيْثَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْأَرْحَامِ وَمَا تَدْرِي نَفْسٌ مَّاذَا تَكْسِبُ غَدًا وَمَا تَدْرِي نَفْسٌ بِأَيِّ أَرْضٍ تَمُوتُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ​

The explanation:
(Surely, God:
1- with Him is the knowledge of the hour [of man's death];
2- and He sends down the rain;
3- and He knows what is in wombs;
4- and no soul knows what it is that it shall earn to-morrow;
5- and no soul knows in what land it shall die;
surely, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.)​

 

[Cliffy]

Dude, you really do need to get out and find a sense of humour.

 

[darkbeaver]

DB, the prediction of some astronomical events like the eclipses for example, this is not the fore-future knowledge; but this is according to science studies they may predict such events and the weather.

But events of social and political changes and wars and the marriage and the death and the birth of so many children and what man may obtain tomorrow, or where he will die and what hour of his death; this is only up to God the All-Knowing.

As in the Quran 31: 34

إِنَّ اللَّهَ عِندَهُ عِلْمُ السَّاعَةِ وَيُنَزِّلُ الْغَيْثَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْأَرْحَامِ وَمَا تَدْرِي نَفْسٌ مَّاذَا تَكْسِبُ غَدًا وَمَا تَدْرِي نَفْسٌ بِأَيِّ أَرْضٍ تَمُوتُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ​

The explanation:
(Surely, God:
1- with Him is the knowledge of the hour [of man's death];
2- and He sends down the rain;
3- and He knows what is in wombs;
4- and no soul knows what it is that it shall earn to-morrow;
5- and no soul knows in what land it shall die;
surely, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.)​

Scientific fore knowledge is valid fore knowledge. The only problem with predicting the future is the complexity of variables. Science works exclusively to expose and eliminate the damping complexity to realize superlative predictive powers. Once we have that done, we will be gods and that seems to be what is commanded by the one true god, but the not so true god punished us for eating from the tree of knowledge and banished us before we got to the tree of life. That god seems afraid of the potential competition for no good reason I can think of if he's truly omnipotent. How could we ever threaten him in any way, except that he,s lied to us from the beginning and he fears us ever knowing the truth. And now we all live in Babel because of her terror at our abilities, which you say she gave us in the first place. That confuses this student of religion and I must consult the Green One.

 

[AnnaG]

The future doesn't exist forget about it.

lol d you not having a future, but that's a personal issue between you and your electricity. Other people have futures.

It is defined as "that which has yet to be" ( online dictionary). Some people holds their futures in their minds and work to making them come true. In our future, hubby and I will travel.

And then there are these types of futures:

Futures exchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AnnaG]

This is the gate keeping that rules science under the rubric (peer review).db

I bet it's more like "beer review".

 

[darkbeaver]

lol d you not having a future, but that's a personal issue between you and your electricity. Other people have futures.

It is defined as "that which has yet to be" ( online dictionary). Some people holds their futures in their minds and work to making them come true. In our future, hubby and I will travel.

And then there are these types of futures:

Futures exchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You and hubby will travel in the future. That is hardly a difficult prediction to make since we're living on a moving object. Should I be in awe. I'm not.;-)