Harper support drops sharply

mentalfloss

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In Canada its a case of center (CPC), left (LPC) and further left (NDP). One of the great fallacies of Canadian politics is that there is any substantial right wing. Its like saying there is a substantial left in American politics.

I wonder how we compare to England?
 

petros

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Really critical thought, let's see if you can keep up.. would the Liberals not want to be in power, as the Conservatives are now..??

Which makes the Liberals, Conservative wannabes.. and the Liberals with no hope on the horizon of ever leading Canada again.

You may wanna start to eat better.. help the brain.

A night out at Bonanza?
 

damngrumpy

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Retired Canadian Soldier, this time I respectfully don't agree with you. The problem is
this. The Liberals are a spent force for a long time and Canadians don't see this NDP
as the same old same old. The reason is the NDP has become a political party and no
longer are they a western protest movement. If you look at history, the NDP outlasted
all the other protest movements. Social Credit, the Reform Party and all such movements
have come and gone, as will the Greens.
We are looking at a new era in politics. Even the essence of social democracy will soon
disappear within the NDP itself. Mulcair is quietly and slowly moving them to the center.
Remember, it was said they could never be opposition, they are, and the official opposition
is her majesties government in waiting. The fact is, anything can happen in the next
election. All three parties will be taking nothing for granted.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Retired Canadian Soldier, this time I respectfully don't agree with you.

That is a mutual respectful disagreement and here is why:

The problem is
this. The Liberals are a spent force for a long time and Canadians don't see this NDP
as the same old same old. The reason is the NDP has become a political party and no
longer are they a western protest movement. If you look at history, the NDP outlasted
all the other protest movements. Social Credit, the Reform Party and all such movements
have come and gone, as will the Greens.
I wouldn't count the Liberals out so quickly grump. I heard the same thing of the conservatives when they were fragmented and decimated by both voter revolt (Gst) and defection to the Bloc as well as the emergence of the Reform.

The Liberals are sitting in the same position that the Tories were.

We are looking at a new era in politics. Even the essence of social democracy will soon disappear within the NDP itself. Mulcair is quietly and slowly moving them to the center. Remember, it was said they could never be opposition, they are, and the official opposition is her majesties government in waiting. The fact is, anything can happen in the next election. All three parties will be taking nothing for granted.
There was a time when the Bloc was the official opposition and the Reform Party as well. I don't see this as a new era, so much as a shift due mostly to voter revolt. I am very doubtful the NDP (Mr. Mulcair) will be getting the keys to 33 Sussex any time soon. For all the complaining, our economy and housing market has been quite stable.

I think the LiIberals will find their way out of the forest when they eventually shed the stupid ideology that they are the "Natural Governing Party" until then it will mean a lot of hard work and humility. As for the NDP, I will always see them as a part of Canadian politics, but the bulk of their seats are in Quebec (I think approximate 58 which is more seats then they hold in all the other provinces combined (47)

A shift in Quebec politics (a resurgence of separatism) could easily scuttle that. And given the history of Quebec the possibility of that happening seems inevitable at some point in the future.

At any rate, we will see, but I am extremely doubtful the NDP will be forming a government even as a minority any time soon.
 

SpectateSwamp

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Bloc Monsanto and the Conservatives

Well that is one interpretation of it. Dead wrong but thats your life. The only thing you got right is Monsanto being evil.
In Fact the bloc stand for a separate QUebec and nothing else. The NDP are for the freeloaders, not working people.



Some truth to that. At least there will be a race for second best.

Dead wrong, Dead wrong: Selling us out to Monsanto and their poison VS Maybe someday splitting up Canada. Those that voted for Crop Life and Monsanto will never get another vote from me. Too bad the Bloc doesn't run here in the West. Stop Monsanto vote for The Bloc.
 

mentalfloss

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This is why many of us started voting Reform. We saw no difference between the two eastern parties. All they did was occasionally change positions but both stole from the west to feed Ontario and Quebec.

Actually, Ontario gets the worst out of the equalization deal, but we don't whine about it.