Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage

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I really like the part where they say most canadians...again no idea how the majority of canadians feel :roll: It will be the will of the people and I think they have said how they feel, nothing any "neo" conservative spews is going to change that. I guess this is going to go on for 210 days eh? this is what they are good at :wink: well maybe we will have to vote closure.. :p, but hey lets give them 210 days. :p
 

peapod

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I really like the part where they say most canadians...again no idea how the majority of canadians feel :roll: It will be the will of the people and I think they have said how they feel, nothing any "neo" conservative spews is going to change that. I guess this is going to go on for 210 days eh? this is what they are good at :wink: well maybe we will have to vote closure.. :p, but hey lets give them 210 days. :p
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage

tibear said:
Vanni,

If you don't mind, please give me your "ideal" definition of marriage. Please be precise and ensure it has no moral teaching being "rammed down people's throats".

*clears throat*

The ideal definition of marriage is this:

Any two people who wish to spend their lives together as equals, and to enjoy the legal benefits and obligations thereof.

...or something like that... 8)
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage

tibear said:
Vanni,

If you don't mind, please give me your "ideal" definition of marriage. Please be precise and ensure it has no moral teaching being "rammed down people's throats".

*clears throat*

The ideal definition of marriage is this:

Any two people who wish to spend their lives together as equals, and to enjoy the legal benefits and obligations thereof.

...or something like that... 8)
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Harper says he'll protect traditional marriage

tibear said:
Vanni,

If you don't mind, please give me your "ideal" definition of marriage. Please be precise and ensure it has no moral teaching being "rammed down people's throats".

*clears throat*

The ideal definition of marriage is this:

Any two people who wish to spend their lives together as equals, and to enjoy the legal benefits and obligations thereof.

...or something like that... 8)
 

tibear

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Vanni,

So an adult incestual relationship is OK in your world? Reading your definition, you make no regard to age, so "teenage" pedophilia would officially be recognized?
 

tibear

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Vanni,

So an adult incestual relationship is OK in your world? Reading your definition, you make no regard to age, so "teenage" pedophilia would officially be recognized?
 

tibear

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Vanni,

So an adult incestual relationship is OK in your world? Reading your definition, you make no regard to age, so "teenage" pedophilia would officially be recognized?
 

zenfisher

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Tibear... I believe you asked Vanni to produce a statement with no moral judements. That he did. All throughout history incest has been prevelent in society. You might want to start with looking at royal families to see some prime examples of both incest and teenage ( and younger) pedophilia.

Vanni's statement is devoid of any moral judgement. That and he did qualify the statement.
 

zenfisher

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Tibear... I believe you asked Vanni to produce a statement with no moral judements. That he did. All throughout history incest has been prevelent in society. You might want to start with looking at royal families to see some prime examples of both incest and teenage ( and younger) pedophilia.

Vanni's statement is devoid of any moral judgement. That and he did qualify the statement.
 

zenfisher

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Tibear... I believe you asked Vanni to produce a statement with no moral judements. That he did. All throughout history incest has been prevelent in society. You might want to start with looking at royal families to see some prime examples of both incest and teenage ( and younger) pedophilia.

Vanni's statement is devoid of any moral judgement. That and he did qualify the statement.
 

tibear

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RB,

This thread is about different relationships which all of these situations fit.

Vanni, Not only does your definition allow incest and pedophilia but it is pushing your morality onto others by saying that only two people may be included in such a relationship.

Zen, thanks for backing my side by saying incest and pedophilia have both been around forever. This arguement is often used in support of SSM because they believe this has some bearing on whether it was an acceptable part of society.
 

tibear

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RB,

This thread is about different relationships which all of these situations fit.

Vanni, Not only does your definition allow incest and pedophilia but it is pushing your morality onto others by saying that only two people may be included in such a relationship.

Zen, thanks for backing my side by saying incest and pedophilia have both been around forever. This arguement is often used in support of SSM because they believe this has some bearing on whether it was an acceptable part of society.
 

tibear

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RB,

This thread is about different relationships which all of these situations fit.

Vanni, Not only does your definition allow incest and pedophilia but it is pushing your morality onto others by saying that only two people may be included in such a relationship.

Zen, thanks for backing my side by saying incest and pedophilia have both been around forever. This arguement is often used in support of SSM because they believe this has some bearing on whether it was an acceptable part of society.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Harper says he'll pro

Tibear, this thread is about SSM and Harper's rude attempts to force his religion on people that do not share that religion.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Harper says he'll pro

Tibear, this thread is about SSM and Harper's rude attempts to force his religion on people that do not share that religion.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Harper says he'll pro

Tibear, this thread is about SSM and Harper's rude attempts to force his religion on people that do not share that religion.