Harper Responds to Ahmadinejad's Comments

[FiveParadox]

In response to comments made by His Excellency Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, today released a statement. The Prime Minister denounced the Mr. Mahmoud's statements, while emphasizing his opinion that the views of Mr. Mahmoud do not represent the views of the people of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper[/color], P.C., M.P.,]Canada vigorously condemns the recent call by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for the annihilation of Israel, and his continued denial of the holocaust. The Canadian people reject the hatred that underlies such appalling and irresponsible statements.

It is particularly disturbing that these remarks are being made at a time when Iran is in serious violation of its international obligations with respect to nuclear non-proliferation.

Canada continues to believe that these outrageous comments by the President of Iran do not reflect the traditions and values of the Iranian people.

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:arrow: My Opinion

I would hope that there is something that can be done to end the vicious statements and tendencies that seem to have become expected, in a way, from the administration in Iran. I hope that this situation can somehow be resolved in such a way that an armed intervention, the likes of which we have seen elsewhere in other circumstances, is not necessary.

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[zoofer]

Ahmadinejad is a psycho who welcomes armegeddon. He is of the same mindset as a suicide bomber. If he is not removed soon tens of millions will die. Most of them Iranians.
IMHO.

 

[FiveParadox]

To be quite honest, I don't know a lot about the problems that nations have had with Mr. Ahmadinejad in the past — perhaps ignorance, or perhaps some of these things happened before my coming into maturity, I don't know. But notwithstanding whatever may have happened, I would hope that there can be some method found to get this situation under control in a peaceful way.

Perhaps wishful thinking, though.

 

[zoofer]

Well for starters he has been identified as one of the revolutionary goons who took the American Embassy Staff hostage 2 decades ago.

 

[Hank C]

In response to comments made by His Excellency Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, today released a statement. The Prime Minister denounced the Mr. Mahmoud's statements, while emphasizing his opinion that the views of Mr. Mahmoud do not represent the views of the people of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

I dont know about this Ahmadbinladen fellow not representing the views of the Iranian people, I heard he and his beliefs have pretty strong support in the general population.

 

[Blackleaf]

while emphasizing his opinion that the views of Mr. Mahmoud do not represent the views of the people of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Yes, they do. That's why they voted for him.

 

[Machjo]

good point, Blackleaf. Some people might not be aware that Iran is in fact a quasi-democracy.

 

[Toro]

RE: Harper Responds to Ah

I don't think the President of Iran is crazy. Or at least, not completely crazy.

Iran is trying to re-assert itself as a regional power, both on a national and religious level. It has lost influence in the Middle East the last decade or so, and now its trying to regain credibility as a leader in the promotion of Islam. Making such statements plays well in the region.

 

[Just the Facts]

Re: RE: Harper Responds to Ahmadinejad's Comments

good point, Blackleaf. Some people might not be aware that Iran is in fact a quasi-democracy.

More like pseudo- or sham-democracy. Didn't the real opposition disapper or mysteriously bow out before the election. They were left with this guy and that other guy (former president) who was famous for saying Israel could be annihilated by nukes with only minimal damage to the Islamic world. In other words, the could safely sacrifice the Palestinians to wipe out Israel.

Not eactly a vibrant democracy.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

No, the people of Iran did not vote for this man, truly.

The way the Iranian democracy is set up a body of religious clerics, led by "Supreme Leader" Ayatola Ali Khamenei, wield complete power and control.

For many years the country was led by moderate reformists. These individuals were more left leaning and sought to bring political and social reform to the country. The supreme leader was set at odds with this government, believing that the country was straying too far away from traditional Islamic values. Not only does the body of clerics appoint the judiciary, military heads, and media heads, they also approve or reject candidates who wish to run in an election. When the election in (I believe) 2000 came around the Supreme leader rejected every single reformist candidate. In fact, they only approved one candidate, a conservative one, for each riding. The people could either vote for this individual, or not.

Ahmadinejad was essentially put in place to reverse eight years of reforms. No, the people did not choose this man... the religious fundamentalists did.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Harper Responds to Ah

Harpers job in Canada is to form the Corporate Theocracy of Canada, the only thing I want to hear out of his pie hole is, I'm Guilty Please Hang Me.

 

[Jersay]

Toro has raised some good points.

 

[mabudon]

RE: Harper Responds to Ah

Yep, and who knows, the Iranians are likely just as easy (as a populace) to wag as most other civilians, and if the US is truly going to attack them (which I am pretty much certain is the case) it's better to get yer folks all fired up and somewhat united against a common foe NOW so that any hardships in the future (resulting from whatever shakes down as a result of the impending attack) are a "point of pride" and not to be interpreted as failure but more of a thing to endure and overcome (look at the Nazis thoughts on propaganda... people don't want to fight, so tell them they are being attacked etc etc)
And Iraq being so closeby, serves as a perfect example of what not to do... if Saddam had been smarter and started a really good targetted campaign of propaganda soon enough before the actual invasion, the US may have already given up, but instead it's a fractious bunch of groups, making it impossible for the invaders to gain a foothold, but also impossible for the kind of co-ordination neede to really bring the occupiers to their knees.... it would seem that this Iranian president is far more perspicacious than Saddam ever was, and rather than rely on bluster he's laying a strong foundation among the citizenry of his country...

I tell ya, if I had some A-hole threatening me day and night, I would be threatening right back and anyone who says that such a response is wrong is NUTS...

It's tough talk, to be sure, but the US doesn't seem to want to stop whacking the beeehive so I would by-and-large just ignore it

 

[Jersay]

Point of the Fact is, COnservative know this too, but they just keep their eyes shut and whimper in the corner.

They are stretched with the missions with Iraq and Afghanistan. One going really good, one going really badly. The American public, and the world will not allow Bush a nut-job launch a nuclear strike and I believe Russia or China will launch nuclear weapons at America in response. And revolt will occur in America, so using nuclear weapons is a nutjob conservative pipe dream.

But back to the fact at hand, Iran is a way huger country than Afghanistan and Iraq. And has a much larger population with very important allies in China and Russia. So America is not going to do too much since they have 0% support anywhere in the world for military action, zippo nothing, nothing at all. So this is just two powers, one a superpower and one a regional power, who are trying to get people in their countries to support a cause instead of looking at the bad occuring within both countries.

Iran (ethnic unrest),

America (Iraq War) and growing debt.

 

[zoofer]

Iran will not be allowed to develop nukes.

Israel will be committing suicide if they allow it.

Americans will be allowing two or three large American cities to be vaporized if they allow it.

Should these governments give a rats ass what some pseudo snotty nosed intellectual pigging out at the UN cafeteria thinks?

Conventional block busters will be used. No need for nukes. Neither China or Russia want a nuclear armed Iran on their doorstep. They do want to cause mischief for the USA.

Iran has warned that if attacked they will unleash 40 thousand trained suicide bombers against the States. Lets hope they target those who opposed the Patriot Act first.

 

[bluealberta]

Iran will not be allowed to develop nukes.

Israel will be committing suicide if they allow it.

Americans will be allowing two or three large American cities to be vaporized if they allow it.

Should these governments give a rats ass what some pseudo snotty nosed intellectual pigging out at the UN cafeteria thinks?

Conventional block busters will be used. No need for nukes. Neither China or Russia want a nuclear armed Iran on their doorstep. They do want to cause mischief for the USA.

Iran has warned that if attacked they will unleash 40 thousand trained suicide bombers against the States. Lets hope they target those who opposed the Patriot Act first.

Good points, Zoof. To the point of the post, when a leader of a country, elected, appointed, or whatever, publicly states many times that he is committed to wiping another country off the face of the earth, in this case Israel, then the world had better pay attention, cause after Israel, what or who could be next? France? Germany? Canada?

I think Zoof is right when he states that neither China or Russia wants a nuclear Iran close to them, so while they may be saying some public statements that appear to be against the West, I suspect there are some back room calls and meetings about this issue which will eventually resolve the situation, hopefully peacefully as FiveParadox has stated as well.

But if not peacefully, then other methods must, and IMO will, be used to resolve the situation.

 

[cortezzz]

america is destroying itself
we have to ask ourselves
how can we help....

 

[cortezzz]

Re: RE: Harper Responds to Ah

Harpers job in Canada is to form the Corporate Theocracy of Canada, the only thing I want to hear out of his pie hole is, I'm Guilty Please Hang Me.

i would prefer to see a mock crucification

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Harper Responds to Ah

No way with the mock crucifiction he'd become a mock martyr and then we'd be into the mock resurrection and ST. Steve and then a book of Harper and then the Holy Church Of The Bleeding Harpercons. Better stick with a nice quiet hanging, cheaper in the long run.

 

[Toro]

RE: Harper Responds to Ah

Harper will be on the $20 bill some day.

You just watch!