Harper Puckers Up On the Prairies

[petros]

Harper just announced a $30 per acre pay-out to flooded farms totaling $450 Million to be split with AB SK and MB.

In Saskatchewan 12 Million acres has been washed away by intense unrelenting rains.

Personally we lost approx 1800 acres and the season is far from over.

 

[Mowich]

Harper just announced a $30 per acre pay-out to flooded farms totaling $450 Million to be split with AB SK and MB.

In Saskatchewan 12 Million acres has been washed away by intense unrelenting rains.

Personally we lost approx 1800 acres and the season is far from over.

So what does this mean to you, Petros? With 1800 acres already lost this year, will it even put a dent in your expenses?

I can't remember a time when our fields were flooded but I do vividly remember the first time hail completely wiped out my Dad's crops - it was the first time I ever saw him cry and it scared me, mind you I was very young and did not understand what the loss of the crops meant. I am so sorry to hear that you have been hit so hard, petros.

 

[captain morgan]

In Saskatchewan 12 Million acres has been washed away by intense unrelenting rains.

Personally we lost approx 1800 acres and the season is far from over.

That's hard news to hear... I have family that is the agri-business on the AB side near Maclin, Sask.

I can easily appreciate the devastating impact that floods, drought and hail can create in the operations and personal lives of those that generate (or try to) an income from the land.

 

[VanIsle]

Harper just announced a $30 per acre pay-out to flooded farms totaling $450 Million to be split with AB SK and MB.

In Saskatchewan 12 Million acres has been washed away by intense unrelenting rains.

Personally we lost approx 1800 acres and the season is far from over.

That's quite a loss Petros. I am sorry to hear that. I know you worked hard on the planting. I hope not all of your work has been lost. If it is anything like Orchard insurance (Harpers pay out) it will take at least a year to get the money.:-(

 

[AnnaG]

Harper just announced a $30 per acre pay-out to flooded farms totaling $450 Million to be split with AB SK and MB.

In Saskatchewan 12 Million acres has been washed away by intense unrelenting rains.

Personally we lost approx 1800 acres and the season is far from over.

Jeeeeez, Pet. If SK alone uses up $360 million at $30/acre that's not good. Especially since $30/acre is peanuts. (Land here is about $600/acre unless you have waterfront, which is even more). I'd suggest trying for more. Pressure your prov. gov't. Pressure AB gov't to pressure the feds maybe?
I think I'm going to scribble a note to Harpy.

 

[petros]

Thanks everyone. We'll break even ( I hope).

This is going to cause us all a whole pile later this fall and winter.

Jeeeeez, Pet. If SK alone uses up $360 million at $30/acre that's not good. Especially since $30/acre is peanuts. (Land here is about $600/acre unless you have waterfront, which is even more). I'd suggest trying for more. Pressure your prov. gov't. Pressure AB gov't to pressure the feds maybe?
I think I'm going to scribble a note to Harpy.

Harper did come through. He had to.

AnnaG that is the pay out per acre in losses of production. Farmland is worth from $1100 an acre to $1300 to buy.

I can't remember a time when our fields were flooded but I do vividly remember the first time hail completely wiped out my Dad's crops - it was the first time I ever saw him cry and it scared me, mind you I was very young and did not understand what the loss of the crops meant. I am so sorry to hear that you have been hit so hard, petros.

It sounds crazy but you get an attachment to your crops and the land in ways that must be very deep rooted in our instinctual make up. There has been a lot of tears shed by some whonot onllost their income for the year plus expensive input costs, they lost their homes and their personal gardens.

Some of the smaller farms rely on what they grow in the family garden to make it through winter.

Thanks everyone. We'll break even ( I hope).

This is going to cause us all a whole pile later this fall and winter.

Harper did come through. He had to.

AnnaG that is the pay out per acre in losses of production. Farmland is worth from $1100 an acre to $1300 to buy.

It sounds crazy but you get an attachment to your crops and the land in ways that must be very deep rooted in our instinctual make up. There has been a lot of tears shed by some whonot onllost their income for the year plus expensive input costs, they lost their homes and their personal gardens.

Some of the smaller farms rely on what they grow in the family garden to make it through winter.

That's hard news to hear... I have family that is the agri-business on the AB side near Maclin, Sask.

I can easily appreciate the devastating impact that floods, drought and hail can create in the operations and personal lives of those that generate (or try to) an income from the land.

I hope they do better than the majority or at least qualiy for the assistance. Even the south west desert is soaked.

 

[AnnaG]

Thanks everyone. We'll break even ( I hope).

This is going to cause us all a whole pile later this fall and winter.

Harper did come through. He had to.

AnnaG that is the pay out per acre in losses of production. Farmland is worth from $1100 an acre to $1300 to buy.

Oh, I see. My booboo.
So what is the actual amount you'd expect to gain if that land hadn't done the Huck Finn bit down the river? $45/acre? $100/acre?

It sounds crazy but you get an attachment to your crops and the land in ways that must be very deep rooted in our instinctual make up. There has been a lot of tears shed by some whonot onllost their income for the year plus expensive input costs, they lost their homes and their personal gardens.

Some of the smaller farms rely on what they grow in the family garden to make it through winter.

I hope they do better than the majority or at least qualiy for the assistance. Even the south west desert is soaked.

It doesn't sound crazy to me. I grow a lot of what we eat. And it's worth a lot more than $30/acre in savings in groceries at the store.

 

[petros]

Oh, I see. My booboo.
So what is the actual amount you'd expect to gain if that land hadn't done the Huck Finn bit down the river?

It doesn't sound crazy to me. I grow a lot of what we eat. And it's worth a lot more than $30/acre in savings in groceries at the store.

$150 - $450 per acre (low end of scale) gross depending the crop type and yield but input costs vary and market price depends on global market and quality of product.

My garden sucks and I'm pissed about it. Radishes potatoes and onions aren't going to fill the cellar

 

[AnnaG]

gawd
$30/acre must be an insult considering all the goodies the SOB hands out to big corps and whatnot.

Canada's 75 Billion Dollar Bank Bailout

 

[petros]

gawd
$30/acre must be an insult considering all the goodies the SOB hands out to big corps and whatnot.

Canada's 75 Billion Dollar Bank Bailout

If we owe the banks but banks need money why aren't we paying off our debt instead of giving them money we borrowed from them?

 

[AnnaG]

gawd
$30/acre must be an insult considering all the goodies the SOB hands out to big corps and whatnot.

Canada's 75 Billion Dollar Bank Bailout

I just got the ammo for my email to the Prime As... er Minister.

 

[petros]

$30 an acre isn't bad early in the year before blowing money on more fuel and herbicide to spray and then more fuel to harvest.

I'm averaging about 28L per acre fuel to seed, spray and harvest.

 

[AnnaG]

If we owe the banks but banks need money why aren't we paying off our debt instead of giving them money we borrowed from them?

High finance. (HIGHly suspicious FINANCE)

 

[Goober]

$30 an acre isn't bad early in the year before blowing money on more fuel and herbicide to spray and then more fuel to harvest.

I'm averaging about 28L per acre fuel to seed, spray and harvest.

So this does not come close to covering losses incurred - Not to mention any profits.

 

[petros]

So this does not come close to covering losses incurred - Not to mention any profits.

We only seeded so only used about 9.4L fuel but yeah fertilizer and seed aren't cheap not to mention maintenance, land taxes, equipment payments, hydro, nat gas, and the hours spent in the tractor seat until your ass turns blue.

 

[AnnaG]

I just got the ammo for my email to the Prime As... er Minister.

Well, it actually went through.

My email was acknowledged:

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Shyte! I forgot to mention the bit about the $30 being an insult.

 

[petros]

Well, it actually went through.

My email was acknowledged:



Shyte! I forgot to mention the bit about the $30 being an insult.

Right on!:canada:

 

[AnnaG]

hehe I refrain from celebrating, though. It may get stuffed into the E-trash. I'll see if I get an answer.

 

[petros]

hehe I refrain from celebrating, though. It may get stuffed into the E-trash. I'll see if I get an answer.

When I was a kid I got a letter from Joe Clark because I kicked ass at the heritage fair.

 

[Mowich]

hehe I refrain from celebrating, though. It may get stuffed into the E-trash. I'll see if I get an answer.

When you do, and I am sure you will Anna - I always do - it will be months down the road. At best you get what more resembles a page of the policy book then any real attention to the specifics of your email. But then, maybe you will get lucky. The only real replies I get are from our MP Cathy McLeod. She at least writes about the concerns I have and does manage to get answers for me. Good Luck, Anna and good on you. :smile:


Quote: Originally Posted by petros

It sounds crazy but you get an attachment to your crops and the land in ways that must be very deep rooted in our instinctual make up. There has been a lot of tears shed by some whonot onllost their income for the year plus expensive input costs, they lost their homes and their personal gardens.

Some of the smaller farms rely on what they grow in the family garden to make it through winter.

Not to me, petros. My granddad used to take me for long walks in the fields and talk to me about the land and the crops. He would bend down to stroke the heads of wheat or snap one off, roll it in his hands, blow the chaff away and split the grains between us. Granddad was the first one to teach me about grain gum - yum, yum. I grew up with a love for the land along with a healthy respect for the powers of nature.

All my sisters and I worked on the farm from the time we were little. We learned our way around machinery and knew the dangers of working around it.

My mother had a huge garden, much as you mentioned. Our root cellar would be full of preserves and bins of veggies come the fall. With a family of eight to feed, my Mum needed every single crop she could get out her garden.