Harper poised to throw rural farmers under the bus

taxslave

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Leverage. The encumbrance guarantees a landowner can't pull the fields from under their turbines.

Wind Leaseholders May Be On The Hook For Billions | Ontario Wind Resistance

Could also mean nothing. A lien is easy to put on a property without the land holder even knowing however it has to be proved in court to have any meaning.There is also nothing stopping the land owners from putting a lien on the windmills to ensure the company lives up to it's obligations.

More Harpler accomplishments, a list, leading to a capsize?

Over the past decade the warrior nation wannabes in Ottawa preferred to preside over disastrous years of war in Afghanistan, to help open a Pandora’s Box of multiple misfortunes by participating in an illegal regime change exercise in Libya, and unthinkingly to join in the anti-ISIL bombing of Iraq and Syria, thus worsening the refugee crisis and exposing Canadians to a heightened risk of retaliation at home and abroad.

Other hallmarks of the past decade?

Spurning progressive diplomatic or developmental initiatives of any description

Sidelining the public service and imposing drastic reductions to international capacity through cuts to DFATD, CIC, science-based departments and agencies, and international NGOs

Centralizing, controlling and censoring all international communications, while concentrating decision-making in the PMO

Failing to win election to the UN Security Council, while opting for a photo-op at Tim Horton’s over attending the UN General Assembly

Refusing to attend multilateral meetings, and rejecting or withdrawing from a variety of international agreements

Bungling Canada’s relationship with the Asia-Pacific region, the rising centre of the world political economy

Adopting a highly skewed set of policy positions on issues involving, variously, Iran, Israel, the Palestinians, and issues of Middle East peace

Shuttering the Pearson Peacekeeping Centre, the Canadian Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development, and North-South Institute

Withdrawing Canada from the Kyoto Protocol, while promoting the tarsands, pipelines, resource and extractive industries

Pursuing free trade and promoting commercial and corporate interests at public expense

The Harper government’s record of contempt for Parliament, due process (Afghan detainee hearings) and civil liberties (Bill C-51) is exceeded only by its contempt for diplomacy and multilateralism.

Delivery of the government’s ideologically driven, evidence-dismissing agenda has cost Canada’s reputation and influence dearly. Through its adulation of the military and attacks on science, democracy, and internationalism, the Conservatives have eroded Canadian values and interests, diminished Canada’s prosperity and security, run down our formerly admirable soft power, and spoiled the Canadian brand.

Canada’s hard-won standing as a generous, open, engaged and compassionate actor has been squandered.
Canada Falls Flat on the World StageÂ* :Â*Â*Â* Information Clearing House - ICH


Well lets see.... it wasn't the Conservatives that got us into Afghanistan so kind of throws that one out.
WE should drop the UN because it is counter to our best interests besides being a money pit. The rest of you list is either benign or positive. Maybe you better find a better tinfoil hatter site for news.
 

lone wolf

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Could also mean nothing. A lien is easy to put on a property without the land holder even knowing however it has to be proved in court to have any meaning.There is also nothing stopping the land owners from putting a lien on the windmills to ensure the company lives up to it's obligations.

That, in a nutshell, is what Wynne's winners have won for rural Ontarians - and why Harper will have to get in line....
 

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i never read one bit of this conversation,so forgive me if I am off topic.
Harper has always viewed the rural vote as a vote to manipulate,we rural Albertans have never been on the bus,never mind being under it.
I also did an information auditing project which I wanted to know why people would vote for a political party which demonstrates such disrespect for rural life,my findings is a whole different blog,
but to place it simply the Conservative governement has built a relationship with rural individuals by manipulating their gentle folk ways.Believe it or not,people still do dealings or exchanges by the old school of morality,a simple handshake goes a long way where i live,then again when i view the hypocrites,i know this is not true in entirety.The hypocrisy came when the Conservative governement set out to divide communities,relationships,and any cohesion which may obstruct their agendas of policy ridden outcomes,one method of divison was to take influencial dumb people from communities and place them on "community boards",this is where the whiskey and water term came to be,it is similar as "sleeping in the masters house",or i was told it has the same recipical agreements in place,when forsaken one;own
the history and relationship of the REA,TransAlta and the Conservative government is one information auditing application I did when understanding why people vote for policies which effect them in a negative manner.for the record,there is no difference in federal or provincial policies when it comes to conservative policies,they would like us to believe they are seperate,but they are not.another remarkable and sad of exampling of conservative policies, cohesion and we have never been on the bus in the first place, was the events leading up to the death of Karman Willis,within my information audiiting of this case I could identify many bias,and prejustice demonstrations,which would lead me back to Conservative policies.i think i cried for many days,realizing the attitudes of the conservative government towards rural individuals.
Another was the administered process of decison making in the disbandment of the wheat board,this was so bad and gives great example we have never been on the bus,or anywhere near it.
I think if anything this is all Mr. Harper and his cronies deserve in the election,a bunch of rural voters,thats it,i hope the cities don't have him.
 

billshaver

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thats what he did take advantage of people...criminal...jsut dont know if theres any hope for the milk boards & the farmers on it...their goose might already be cooked...the fallout from this will be imense not to mentin the finacial disparity it will bring, you know the bankers will get their mony, bankrupt farms..nothinggeneral public higher taxes...and so on..would be better to have the milk board , not so prefered trade...but still you know what your paying for..your food & its safe & secure, it'll be there...not like some others.
 

bluebyrd35

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a good point no one sees..why should canadian dairy farmers be subjects of subsidizing us farmers...they already get enough welfare from minions in washinton,, the dairy farmers in canada get none.....this is truely off.....
The dairy farms as well as other farmers under a marketing board (supply/management scheme) get a reasonable payment to subsidize (consumers). Is anyone under the impression that when Canada becomes a country unable to produce enough food to feed our population, we will be the recipients of donations from other countries? Dream on. Those other countries do not have supply/management schemes. it is boom or bust.

There was a time not all that long ago, in this region where the growing season was so poor that the seed potatoes put in the ground in the spring were dug up in the fall to last the farmer through the winter. Our local paper used to publish the stories from 125 to 150 years ago. One I remember was a man going for his cows in the evening from the pasture, got caught up in a snow storm and froze to death in July. His cows made it to the barn. So, do not get fooled by our Canadian weather.

After all, many people do not believe in global warming in fact, very few even believe in climate change LOL.
 

taxslave

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Marketing boards are a scam to buy the votes from those already in the game. They limit innovation and competition as well as prevent new entrants to the field. All at the expense of a captive consumer. Could be considered as corporate socialism.
 

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Harper poised to sign Pacific Rim trade deal, putting safe rural ridings in play - The Globe and Mail
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Apart from balancing the budget, the third Harper government has considered trade its highest priority. That’s why Stephen Harper is poised to toss accepted electoral wisdom aside and sign the landmark Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement.

The agreement, which will transform Canada’s trade relationship with Asian and Pacific countries, will signal the death knell for dairy and poultry subsidies and shift the electoral calculus in Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia.

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Conservative insiders acknowledge that the decision is likely to cost the party seats in rural Ontario on election night in October. But Mr. Harper is determined to commit Canada to the accord regardless. This is his legacy.

The government has already negotiated and signed an ambitious agreement with the European Union. Now, with congressional hurdles overcome, the United States is ready, along with Japan, Canada and nine other countries, to proceed with the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), the most ambitious regional trade agreement ever negotiated, encompassing 40 per cent of global GDP.

Because Mexico is also a member, the new accord will supplant the North American Free Trade Agreement. Staying outside TPP, Mr. Harper has argued in government meetings, would see the U.S. and Mexico move to a new level of trading integration, with Canada left behind.

And being part of TPP will, at a stroke, vastly expand Canada’s economic links with major developed and developing Pacific countries such as Japan, Malaysia and Vietnam.

It is possible to envision a not-too-distant future in which most countries of the Atlantic and Pacific regions become part of a single, global trade zone.

But in Canada, TPP will be no easy sell. Although there will doubtless be a phase-in period, along with compensation for affected farmers, signing means the end of supply management, which for decades has protected the dairy and poultry industries.

Those farmers will be justifiably angry at the Conservatives. Mr. Harper promised he could get a TPP deal while still protecting supply management. In the end, he decided to sacrifice the interests of the farmers to the greater interest.

Rural seats in Southwestern and Eastern Ontario that were once considered safe will now be very much in play.

The Conservatives will fight hard to hold those seats regardless, stressing the crucial link between rural values and Conservative priorities. And Mr. Harper will trumpet the accord in places such as the Greater Toronto Area and B.C.’s Lower Mainland.

Signing the TPP, he will say, will bring Canada’s trade relationships into the 21st century, accelerate our economic realignment from the Atlantic to the Pacific and offer further proof that only the Conservatives can be trusted to manage the national economy.

Ironically, Mr. Harper’s decision is likely to be good news for Thomas Mulcair. Many of Canada’s dairy farms are in Quebec, in ridings held by the NDP. If, as expected, the New Democrats oppose the accord because it fails to protect supply management, Mr. Mulcair will be able to tell rural Quebec voters that only his party truly represents their interests.

For Justin Trudeau, the situation is problematic. The Liberals place a high priority in taking francophone ridings from the NDP in Quebec, which would incline the party toward opposing the deal. But the Liberals are also determined to show middle-class voters in the rest of Canada that they can be trusted to protect the country’s economic interests. How could these interests be served by keeping Canada outside the world’s most important regional trade agreement?

This is a point the Conservatives can be expected to make – forcefully – if Mr. Trudeau decides to join Mr. Mulcair in opposing the TPP.

Politics as well as policy, then, will inform the debate over the TPP. In an election season, with economic trust a key concern, that debate will be intense.

Harper poised to sign Pacific Rim trade deal, putting safe rural ridings in play - The Globe and Mail

I don't know about rural farmers being tossed under a bus, but I'd like to toss you Flossy in front of one.