Harper hates women!

[Praxius]

I can tell you are very sensitive,

Nope, just detailed in what and how I say something. If someone get's it wrong, then I'll say it again and again until it's picked up and understood.

my illustration with the bank manager is say if you did not know the manager that well. Of course when a person has established credit they probably would do the enquiry for a load over the phone or e-mail and call you to come in to sign the documents. Totally different from walking into the bank not know the manager look at floor 80% of the time guarantee the results will be negative.

Well if I had nothing else to support my status for a loan then you would be right.... even if someone was looking at me all the time, appearing to pay attention to the details being mentioned, but had no credit or records of good standing, then I wouldn't give them a loan either.

But if they base their judgement mainly on the person's method of attention, then I'd have their ass sued and lose their job. They're not there for judging people's people skills, they're there to give a loan. And a loan goes two ways..... Do I want a loan from this company? If they're going to be jerks and not give me a loan because of something I considder trivial, then I'll go somewhere else and spread word about my experiences to anybody else I know.

Another thing about customer service I was taught, is that if you PO one person and lose their business, you potientially lose about 10 future customers from that one, due to them telling friends/family about their negative experience with you and your company.

I know just about every single person I know now refuses to deal with the Royal Bank of Canada (Long story) and it's due to situations such as myself, my cousin, my brother, room mates, fellow students in college and many more who followed their rules and procedures, only for them to screw us all over in various ways. I could go into details of how they did for each case, but that'd be derailing this beyond where it already has.

 

[Praxius]

By the way this post was intended to help the awareness on a woman stuck in Mexico for two years, while driven to etempting suecied.

Just because she's stupid enough to want to commit suicide to gain attention, doesn't make it Harper's problem, nor is it his fault for her problems to begin with.

And before you go on about my insensitivity on the subject, I've already gone through the suicide point in my life, made my decisions and conclusions and moved on. She needs to get a friggin grip and stop being such a drama queen. She wants to go kill herself, good.... that's Natural Selection for you. Nobody else is threatening her life except herself.

Get ahold of the ambassador down there to get a decent lawyer and get things moving along.

You know what I think? I think she was in on the whole thing, she is guilty, they caught her, nobody is stupid enough to take her case based on evidence which is why it's taken so long, and instead of accepting her guilt, she's pulling this crap and trying to get a quick bail out for her actions.

She can rot for all I care at this stage, because I see nothing proving her innocence besides her sobbing her sorry little heart out and threatening to kill herself.

Get a life girl, I ain't shedding any tears. And just because she's Canadian, doesn't mean I'm giving her any extra brownie points. I know plenty of Canadians who are two-faced arse puckers, just like I know a few from other various countries. We're not anymore perfect then anybody else, and we are not exempt from other country's laws while we are in those countries.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Should you find your sorry a$$ in a Mexican jail for two years don't forget to let us know how that turns out. Geez man show some compassion here. Suicide is not something you cast off like a bad cold. And it sounds like you've been there. Why don't you take that experience and use it to help others who may not be as strong as you were when you pulled yourself out of it. Did you go through your tough period locked in a foreign jail? Christo Praxius just because you had a rough life don't mean the whole world is a sh!thole. There are some decent folk left on the planet. You just gotta look hard to find em that's all.

 

[Praxius]

Should you find your sorry a$$ in a Mexican jail for two years don't forget to let us know how that turns out.

Expected response.

That's the thing... you wouldn't be hearing me bitching to you all about my poor suffering if I was in that situation. Do you guys hear me moaning and complaining about my life now? I would be following the proper procedures to make sure things go quickly and effectively. I've always been someone who doesn't hide from my actions. If I did something illegal and I was caught.... you're damn right I'd tell them good job on catching me, because I'd be pretty stupid to let them catch me in the first place. That's the chance you take when you play the game.

That and I'm not stupid enough to attempt to scam another country, let alone get myself caught up in a scheme like that in the first place.

Geez man show some compassion here.

I have no reason or grounds to at this point. I do not let emotion cloud my judgement. There is no evidence showing her innocence except that she's been stuck in a prison for two years. Go hang out in Cuba with some suspected terrorists like Omar who's been locked away since he was 15 and come crying back to me.

Suicide is not something you cast off like a bad cold. And it sounds like you've been there. Why don't you take that experience and use it to help others who may not be as strong as you were when you pulled yourself out of it.

Strong? It was during my child/teenager times.... there was no strength at that stage in my life. She's an adult.... she looks to be old enough to be my mom. Do you think some pep talk about my childhood problems will help her in her issues she got herself into?

It finally boiled down to either I do it or I don't.... but thinking about it for two-three years was worse then actually going through with it. I looked towards the potiential in my future and the chances of me making things better.... which is what she needs to do.... find out what she can do to make her situation better, not bitch, complain and threaten to kill herself if she doesn't get what she wants.

trust me, if someone came to me and was moaning about something bad in their life, wanting me to do something about it or they'd kill themselves, I'd be the first to hand them a gun and tell them to do it. I help those who want to live, not those who can't deal with their problems in life and want to find an easy way out..... Life isn't easy, get over it. Survival of the fittest, and if you can't hack life, then don't deal with it, but don't try and suck me into your drama queen ways. Nobody helped me get through my suicidal times... I had to deal with it on my own. And until she learns to deal with her problems in life on her own, she will continue down the same path whenever something tough comes her way.

Maybe some people can't do that.... I'm not God. I, nor anybody else can't fix all your problems in life. Deal with what's given to you.

Did you go through your tough period locked in a foreign jail?

No, did you? How many other people in the world get thrown in jail in a forign country or by forign forces? How many give up and kill themselves and how many fight to the bitter end?

That's life. That's death. Nobody else is making that decision for her except herself. We all have one thing in contol for the most part in our lives.... our lives. If you want to end it.... end it. What are the police going to do? Arrest your body for self murder? Sorry that's suicide and afterwards it won't matter what they do to you.

Life is pain.... life is pleasure. Life is ups and downs, goods and bads... you can't have it all sunshine 24/7 and things going your way all the time. Every single person on this planet, rich and poor, will always end up facing very difficult challenges in their lives. Even if most of their life has been pampered and handed to them on a silver platter, eventually Karma comes around and you will face some daunting challenges. Even if you get through one, there will be more to come. You become stronger the more you push through and not give up. You learn more about yourself and your strengths.... and you learn to avoid situations like that in the future. But if you're a weak mind and want to give up.... well what do you expect me to do?

Christo Praxius just because you had a rough life don't mean the whole world is a sh!thole.

Never said it was a hole full of chat noir. Never said I had a rough life..... My life is my life.... just like everybody else's, all good and all bad. Life is balance and if the balance is too tough... then too bad. Suck it up and plow through until things get better.

There are some decent folk left on the planet. You just gotta look hard to find em that's all.

I know. I just won't waste my time on people who don't care about their lives. I will help many people with many problems, so long as it is asked and I think I can help in someway. But I'm not about to beg and plead for them to not kill themselves.... that's being an attention w'hore. At least when I went through my suicidal time, I didn't moan to people and seek attention revolving around if or if not I'll kill myself.

And I'm better for it, if I say so myself. Sure I may sound pretty heatless and evil right now, but I'm only being as straight forward as I can about the subject. I ain't about to butter things up on this subject just to make people feel good. Suicide isn't a laughing matter, nor should it be something people jump and snap crap over just to make sure someone doesn't kill themselves...... it's attention grabbing and it's pathetic.

But hey.... maybe I am a heartless pr*ck.

*shrugs* Can't save em all.

 

[mt_pockets1000]

heh heh. Gotta hand it to ya. Got the world all figured out don't ya?

Here's a hypothetical situation for you to chew on. You have a 16 year old daughter. She just broke up with her boyfriend. You know how teenage girls can be...she takes it to heart and figures she can't go on with life without the schmuck, even though he was a robotic, heartless basturd who spent all day in his momma's basement playing video games for hours on end. Some girls fall for that type. She comes to you for some fatherly advice and tells you she is thinking of killing herself. Now I get the sense you don't have kids, I could be wrong. But what would your response be? Would you say to her, "Go ahead princess. Here's daddy's gun".

Ya know, everyone goes through ups and downs in life. We all deal with it. Some cope better than others. Some have mental disorders that don't allow them to deal with even the simplest decisions. That doesn't mean we cast them off as rejects and let them rot in the streets. Others go through life with a tough bravado exterior but are pussies on the inside. Until you walk a mile in someones shoes don't pretend you understand what that person is going through.

You've made a number of assumptions about the Brenda Martin case that you seem to believe wholeheartedly without a shred of evidence. I hope I never get in a tough situation with the law and have you on any jury deciding my fate. Especially if I'm innocent.

I wouldn't say you're a heartless pr*ck but you're one tough talkin' sonofabitch. Whatever gets you through the nite....

 

[Socrates the Greek]

uh-huh, yet what's the title of your thread?

Karrie the only reason I used the word woman was to identify that Harper if he accepted women as a strong part of society, he would have done something good long time ago to free this women so she can get a proper civilized day in court. I don't care what you think, bottom line to see the two face Tories get involved with very little result, they are the Buss pony's which it will hurt them on voting day. Trust me it will, this guys hate women, hate old people they will rule with the conservative grip and to help a Canadian citizen out side Canada is an imposable task, simply because Harper is caring on the out side not inside, how phony is that. A minority will look good on Harper on the next election.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

:roll:

Nope, I don't.

So, that being now on the table, why is it Harpo should play the Bond routine and sift her out of jail?

There are actually unanswered question in this case.

How do you feel about the US when they stick their noses in our Judicial jurisdiction?

Because if you were in her shoes under the same circumstance you would have wanted to be free and given a day in court, so don't give me that hypocritical intellect. Harper is a joke not Bond, and by the way I don't do the things you say bellow I do.

 

[Walter]

Is she dead yet?

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Cryptic.

Don't worry Walter, she's getting her day.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I think Martin will have better off in Canadian prison. I personally believe that as she is a Canadian citizen, we are obliged to help her. Other than hat, oh well.

 

[lone wolf]

She was offered help ... and the Mexicans tried to accomodate her. She wouldn't co-operate. Anyone who wants that much control - right down to the suicide threats - isn't really all that believable.

Woof!

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Expected response.

That's the thing... you wouldn't be hearing me bitching to you all about my poor suffering if I was in that situation. Do you guys hear me moaning and complaining about my life now? I would be following the proper procedures to make sure things go quickly and effectively. I've always been someone who doesn't hide from my actions. If I did something illegal and I was caught.... you're damn right I'd tell them good job on catching me, because I'd be pretty stupid to let them catch me in the first place. That's the chance you take when you play the game.

That and I'm not stupid enough to attempt to scam another country, let alone get myself caught up in a scheme like that in the first place.


I have no reason or grounds to at this point. I do not let emotion cloud my judgement. There is no evidence showing her innocence except that she's been stuck in a prison for two years. Go hang out in Cuba with some suspected terrorists like Omar who's been locked away since he was 15 and come crying back to me.



Strong? It was during my child/teenager times.... there was no strength at that stage in my life. She's an adult.... she looks to be old enough to be my mom. Do you think some pep talk about my childhood problems will help her in her issues she got herself into?

It finally boiled down to either I do it or I don't.... but thinking about it for two-three years was worse then actually going through with it. I looked towards the potiential in my future and the chances of me making things better.... which is what she needs to do.... find out what she can do to make her situation better, not bitch, complain and threaten to kill herself if she doesn't get what she wants.

trust me, if someone came to me and was moaning about something bad in their life, wanting me to do something about it or they'd kill themselves, I'd be the first to hand them a gun and tell them to do it. I help those who want to live, not those who can't deal with their problems in life and want to find an easy way out..... Life isn't easy, get over it. Survival of the fittest, and if you can't hack life, then don't deal with it, but don't try and suck me into your drama queen ways. Nobody helped me get through my suicidal times... I had to deal with it on my own. And until she learns to deal with her problems in life on her own, she will continue down the same path whenever something tough comes her way.

Maybe some people can't do that.... I'm not God. I, nor anybody else can't fix all your problems in life. Deal with what's given to you.



No, did you? How many other people in the world get thrown in jail in a forign country or by forign forces? How many give up and kill themselves and how many fight to the bitter end?

That's life. That's death. Nobody else is making that decision for her except herself. We all have one thing in contol for the most part in our lives.... our lives. If you want to end it.... end it. What are the police going to do? Arrest your body for self murder? Sorry that's suicide and afterwards it won't matter what they do to you.

Life is pain.... life is pleasure. Life is ups and downs, goods and bads... you can't have it all sunshine 24/7 and things going your way all the time. Every single person on this planet, rich and poor, will always end up facing very difficult challenges in their lives. Even if most of their life has been pampered and handed to them on a silver platter, eventually Karma comes around and you will face some daunting challenges. Even if you get through one, there will be more to come. You become stronger the more you push through and not give up. You learn more about yourself and your strengths.... and you learn to avoid situations like that in the future. But if you're a weak mind and want to give up.... well what do you expect me to do?



Never said it was a hole full of chat noir. Never said I had a rough life..... My life is my life.... just like everybody else's, all good and all bad. Life is balance and if the balance is too tough... then too bad. Suck it up and plow through until things get better.



I know. I just won't waste my time on people who don't care about their lives. I will help many people with many problems, so long as it is asked and I think I can help in someway. But I'm not about to beg and plead for them to not kill themselves.... that's being an attention w'hore. At least when I went through my suicidal time, I didn't moan to people and seek attention revolving around if or if not I'll kill myself.

And I'm better for it, if I say so myself. Sure I may sound pretty heatless and evil right now, but I'm only being as straight forward as I can about the subject. I ain't about to butter things up on this subject just to make people feel good. Suicide isn't a laughing matter, nor should it be something people jump and snap crap over just to make sure someone doesn't kill themselves...... it's attention grabbing and it's pathetic.

But hey.... maybe I am a heartless pr*ck.

*shrugs* Can't save em all.

Do you really spend time believing that garbage man? You must be looking hard to find a life. Man oh man.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

She was offered help ... and the Mexicans tried to accomodate her. She wouldn't co-operate. Anyone who wants that much control - right down to the suicide threats - isn't really all that believable.

Woof!

Lone wolf you wish you would not be on the wrong place at the wrong time, should that happen to you give me a call I will go to bat for you!:roll: