Hamas attacks Israel

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It’s late. I’m just winding up rescuing a truck off the road and that’s taken me 4+ hours. I’m off to bed, & just satisfied I found that connection between chimpanzees and Hasbara now that I have the correct spelling for it.😉 I’ll be up and at’em in 7 or less hours…& I can revisit this if I’m interested at that point.
I've never heard of the chimp thing.

Anyhoo, Yeah, its 21:30 already. Its not a long video but gives a very accurate full picture rendering of what went down pre 48 and a little past.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Is Israel a religion? Is Zionism a religion? What religion did the "founder of Israel" Ben Gurion and his Zionist cohorts follow? What part if Poland is Jerusalem in?
Is this just about politics or real estate?? Seriously. This is much more than politics and real estate, or at least a framing of it on BOTH sides sure is.
Israel is a nation. Its not a Jew.
This does have nothing to do with religion. What made you think it did?

If so how do the Samaritans feel about all this?
This probably has nothing to do with religion either in the way it’s framed:
Maybe this is just another coincidence.
 

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This probably has nothing to do with religion either in the way it’s framed:
Maybe this is just another coincidence.
Maybe you're conflating Zionist with Jew again?

Title says Jew, quoted contents says Zionist. Which is it really Ron?
 

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“I came here to this event not knowing that I would be sitting next to a Zionist, and this is something I’m not going to accept. My people are being killed right now in Gaza,” said the imam-led.

Jewish groups and government officials are condemning an incident at a recent interfaith event held on the campus of the City College of New York, at which a Muslim leader reportedly led a student walkout against the Hillel director after saying he refused to be “sitting next to a Zionist.”

The incident took place last week and was first reported by the Times of Israel on Wednesday, which obtained a recording of the event hosted by the college’s Office of Student Inclusion Initiatives.

The imam let loose a series of remarks about Shariah law and “the filthy rich” before stating, “I came here to this event not knowing that I would be sitting next to a Zionist, and this is something I’m not going to accept. My people are being killed right now in Gaza.”

He then added, “If you’re a Muslim, out of strength and dignity, I ask you to exit this room immediately.” Roughly 100 Muslim students followed him out the door, according to the report, and the chaplain hosting the event expressed disbelief.

“This is not dialogue, it is harassment,” the Anti-Defamation League’s New York chapter wrote on the social network X.

The chapter’s director, Scott Richman, called the incident “a truly disgusting display of raw antisemitism not only by the imam but by the huge crowd of people there for an interfaith event who followed him out the door because a Jew was present.”
“We unequivocally condemn this gross display of antisemitism at City College of New York,” the Nexus Project, a progressive-leaning antisemitism watchdog group, wrote on social media.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul blasted the walkout as “antisemitism, plain and simple,” adding, “No one should be singled out, targeted, or shamed because they are Jewish.” She urged the City University of New York, the public university system that includes the campus, “to act swiftly to ensure accountability and protect every student’s safety.”

Hochul’s Republican opponent in next year’s governor race, Rep. Elise Stefanik, called CUNY “a hotbed of antisemitism.”

The federal Department of Justice, which has used its authority to pressure universities to quash antisemitism, also has an eye on the situation. “This is deeply concerning,” tweeted Associate Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon. “@CivilRights has questions and will look into this!”

The Hillel at City College, in an email to members, wrote, “Our concern is with one individual’s extremist rhetoric, not with Islam, not with Muslim students, and not with interfaith engagement itself.” It added that it was confident that City College would “respond appropriately” to the incident.

CUNY said it was aware of the incident and was investigating.

Jewish Insider later identified the Muslim speaker, who had identified himself only as “Abdullah” on the recording, as Abdullah Mady, a recent psychology graduate of the school who stayed on to pursue a master’s degree in medical translation.

In a biography published online by his department, accompanied by a photograph of him wearing a keffiyeh, Mady says he aims to become a doctor.

Ilya Bratman, who runs the Hillel that serves City College as well as several other local public and private schools, told the Times of Israel that he was in attendance but that there were not many other Jewish students present because the Hillel had been hosting a talk with a Holocaust survivor in another room in the same building.

One Jewish student who was in attendance told the moderator after the walkout, “You’re in shock? We’re not, we’re used to it.”
Maybe it’s not me that’s conflating that. Read the story of the link, then tell me it’s me again.😉
 

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“I came here to this event not knowing that I would be sitting next to a Zionist, and this is something I’m not going to accept. My people are being killed right now in Gaza,” said the imam-led.

Jewish groups and government officials are condemning an incident at a recent interfaith event held on the campus of the City College of New York, at which a Muslim leader reportedly led a student walkout against the Hillel director after saying he refused to be “sitting next to a Zionist.”

The incident took place last week and was first reported by the Times of Israel on Wednesday, which obtained a recording of the event hosted by the college’s Office of Student Inclusion Initiatives.

The imam let loose a series of remarks about Shariah law and “the filthy rich” before stating, “I came here to this event not knowing that I would be sitting next to a Zionist, and this is something I’m not going to accept. My people are being killed right now in Gaza.”

He then added, “If you’re a Muslim, out of strength and dignity, I ask you to exit this room immediately.” Roughly 100 Muslim students followed him out the door, according to the report, and the chaplain hosting the event expressed disbelief.

“This is not dialogue, it is harassment,” the Anti-Defamation League’s New York chapter wrote on the social network X.

The chapter’s director, Scott Richman, called the incident “a truly disgusting display of raw antisemitism not only by the imam but by the huge crowd of people there for an interfaith event who followed him out the door because a Jew was present.”
“We unequivocally condemn this gross display of antisemitism at City College of New York,” the Nexus Project, a progressive-leaning antisemitism watchdog group, wrote on social media.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul blasted the walkout as “antisemitism, plain and simple,” adding, “No one should be singled out, targeted, or shamed because they are Jewish.” She urged the City University of New York, the public university system that includes the campus, “to act swiftly to ensure accountability and protect every student’s safety.”

Hochul’s Republican opponent in next year’s governor race, Rep. Elise Stefanik, called CUNY “a hotbed of antisemitism.”

The federal Department of Justice, which has used its authority to pressure universities to quash antisemitism, also has an eye on the situation. “This is deeply concerning,” tweeted Associate Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon. “@CivilRights has questions and will look into this!”

The Hillel at City College, in an email to members, wrote, “Our concern is with one individual’s extremist rhetoric, not with Islam, not with Muslim students, and not with interfaith engagement itself.” It added that it was confident that City College would “respond appropriately” to the incident.

CUNY said it was aware of the incident and was investigating.

Jewish Insider later identified the Muslim speaker, who had identified himself only as “Abdullah” on the recording, as Abdullah Mady, a recent psychology graduate of the school who stayed on to pursue a master’s degree in medical translation.

In a biography published online by his department, accompanied by a photograph of him wearing a keffiyeh, Mady says he aims to become a doctor.

Ilya Bratman, who runs the Hillel that serves City College as well as several other local public and private schools, told the Times of Israel that he was in attendance but that there were not many other Jewish students present because the Hillel had been hosting a talk with a Holocaust survivor in another room in the same building.

One Jewish student who was in attendance told the moderator after the walkout, “You’re in shock? We’re not, we’re used to it.”
So whats with the links ending at Apple News and going no further?

Highlight the "Jew" part. Not once did he mention Jew but it sure got conflated into Jew and anti-semitism from Zionist rapidly by everyone else didn't it?

Should I conflate Zionist into Satanist?

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Maybe they're just Secular Satanists?
 
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So whats with the links ending at Apple News and going no further?
No idea.
Highlight the "Jew" part. Not once did he mention Jew but it sure got conflated into Jew and anti-semitism from Zionist rapidly by everyone else didn't it?
A bit of tunnel vision there. Framed in a religious context, does the dude mention the word “Muslim” at all? Why does he if he does?

Is this dude conflating the terms? Zionist & Jew, I mean?
Should I conflate Zionist into Satanist?
You can do whatever fills your boots.
Maybe they're just Secular Satanists?
Wouldn’t surprise me, if Secular Satanists exist, I mean.
 

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No idea.

A bit of tunnel vision there. Framed in a religious context, does the dude mention the word “Muslim” at all? Why does he if he does?

Is this dude conflating the terms? Zionist & Jew, I mean?

You can do whatever fills your boots.

Wouldn’t surprise me, if Secular Satanists exist, I mean.
If only Zionism were a Religion.... Keep hoping.

The Hinduvita are Zionists.

Chew on that!
 

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Did you forget that Israel bombed the peace talks?
Peace talks? You’re referring to the Hamas hierarchy hosted in Qatar on Sept 9th? Those were peace talks?
Their actions have cost holocaustages their lives.

THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOLOCAUSTAGES
The fact that that holocaustages are holocaustages is what has cost them their lives. Who made them hostages? Wow…
The PA, which would form the administrative backbone of a Palestinian state, has for years provided payments to convicted terrorists and to the families of those killed while carrying out attacks.
The pay-for-slay program by the PA was said to have ended in February earlier this year, after President Mahmoud Abbas had signed a decree canceling it.

The Palestinian Authority may still be carrying out its “pay-for-slay” policy of Palestinian terrorists by means of “bypass channels,” according to an exclusive by Euronews.
This is not welfare. It is a reward system for terrorism. It reduces the deterrent effect of imprisonment, guarantees family support for operatives and perpetuates recruitment pipelines. Under Canadian law, such conduct constitutes financing and facilitating terrorism.
The “pay-for-slay” program, also known as the “Martyrs’ Fund,” was reportedly ended in February after PA President Mahmoud Abbas signed a decree canceling it. The announcement was met with much European approval.

The Euronews report cites Brussels as saying that no EU funding has any part in the PA program, and that the EU, alongside the US and Israel, has criticized the “pay-for-slay” program for financially rewarding Palestinian terrorists who committed attacks against Israelis.
Although the PA recently claimed it had ended the program, it has a history of making similar claims in the past in the international arena — while confirming across Palestinian media that stipends continue.🤫
The PA has denied that its program financially aided any members of terrorist organizations. The suspicion that the EU was continuing to help fund the program started when Israel claimed that the system was operating through “bypass channels.” (?) How can the EU be continuing to fund a program that the PA discontinued in February 2025?

These channels reportedly operate outside a new program called the Palestinian National Economic Empowerment Institution (PNEEI), which was instituted as a new centralized body that “would manage social aid to Palestinians,” in the form of welfare, employment, and housing aid, the social organization claimed.

Suspected bypass channels do not report or audit additional payments given to PNEEI applicants, according to information obtained by Euronews. Bypass channel payments may also be given to individuals who have not applied to PNEEI.

A European Commission executive told the outlet that pay-for-slay payments were still being made, adding that “we understand that a recent payment has been made to the families of prisoners, based on a previous scheme. We profoundly regret this decision, as this seems to go against prior announcements.”

Brussels has now also demanded clarity from the PA on the status of the program, the report added.

The pay-for-slay program ban was also a prerequisite for the United Kingdom to recognize a Palestinian state, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said in late September.🤫

It was also reported by the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) late last month that the PA had paid stipends to security prisoners and to families of “martyrs” at PA post offices, despite publicly claiming to have ended the practice. PMW director Itamar Marcus said that “the PA Post Offices paid terrorists’ salaries and stipends to families of terrorist ‘martyrs.’”
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Anyway, by recognizing Palestine before reforms were enacted, Carney inverted the natural order: rights first, responsibilities later. That is backwards. Sovereignty must be earned by meeting obligations, not rewarded in the hope of change.
In mid-October, Palestinian Media Watch released the latest list of “Palestinian terrorist millionaires thanks to the pay-for-slay program. Many of those who received financial rewards were among the terrorists released by Israel in exchange for Israeli hostages.”
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Asked about the accusations that Palestinian authorities reward the families of Palestinians killed or imprisoned by Israel – an alleged practice that Israeli authorities describe as “pay for slay” – Commissioner Šuica said that “not a single euro of European money has been spent on these contested payments”.😉
 

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The pay-for-slay program by the PA was said to have ended in February earlier this year, after President Mahmoud Abbas had signed a decree canceling it.

The Palestinian Authority may still be carrying out its “pay-for-slay” policy of Palestinian terrorists by means of “bypass channels,” according to an exclusive by Euronews.

The “pay-for-slay” program, also known as the “Martyrs’ Fund,” was reportedly ended in February after PA President Mahmoud Abbas signed a decree canceling it. The announcement was met with much European approval.

The Euronews report cites Brussels as saying that no EU funding has any part in the PA program, and that the EU, alongside the US and Israel, has criticized the “pay-for-slay” program for financially rewarding Palestinian terrorists who committed attacks against Israelis.

The PA has denied that its program financially aided any members of terrorist organizations. The suspicion that the EU was continuing to help fund the program started when Israel claimed that the system was operating through “bypass channels.” (?) How can the EU be continuing to fund a program that the PA discontinued in February 2025?
These channels reportedly operate outside a new program called the Palestinian National Economic Empowerment Institution (PNEEI), which was instituted as a new centralized body that “would manage social aid to Palestinians,” in the form of welfare, employment, and housing aid, the social organization claimed.

Suspected bypass channels do not report or audit additional payments given to PNEEI applicants, according to information obtained by Euronews. Bypass channel payments may also be given to individuals who have not applied to PNEEI.

A European Commission executive told the outlet that pay-for-slay payments were still being made, adding that “we understand that a recent payment has been made to the families of prisoners, based on a previous scheme. We profoundly regret this decision, as this seems to go against prior announcements.”

Brussels has now also demanded clarity from the PA on the status of the program, the report added.

The pay-for-slay program ban was also a prerequisite for the United Kingdom to recognize a Palestinian state, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said in late September.🤫

It was also reported by the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) late last month that the PA had paid stipends to security prisoners and to families of “martyrs” at PA post offices, despite publicly claiming to have ended the practice. PMW director Itamar Marcus said that “the PA Post Offices paid terrorists’ salaries and stipends to families of terrorist ‘martyrs.’”
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In mid-October, Palestinian Media Watch released the latest list of “Palestinian terrorist millionaires thanks to the pay-for-slay program. Many of those who received financial rewards were among the terrorists released by Israel in exchange for Israeli hostages.”
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Asked about the accusations that Palestinian authorities reward the families of Palestinians killed or imprisoned by Israel – an alleged practice that Israeli authorities describe as “pay for slay” – Commissioner Šuica said that “not a single euro of European money has been spent on these contested payments”.😉
Thats awesome. The article makes veteran benefits sound evil.

Legally any attacks on Israelis inside Palestine are 100% legit.

If you dont want to be attacked by Palestinians, stay the fuck out of Palestine

That math works.
 

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There are no borders? Please explain keeping the fact its 2025 in mind.
I didn’t say there were no borders for Palestinian, but asked where they were in relation to not crossing them…keeping in mind it’s two years after 2023. Where are Palestines borders in order to not cross them?
If you dont want to be attacked by Palestinians, stay the fuck out of Palestine
What about attacks on Israelis in Israel?
What about them? Are they super common?
Would they have to be? I can think of one specifically that started this thread.