Hamas attacks Israel

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And thus maybe Trumps “temporary” fill your boots and get it out of your system thing to Hamas until an international group composed mostly of other Arab nations steps up to the plate to police that in the next phases of this peace agreement then?

Seriously?

(“It’s proven hasbara” gets thrown around a lot without anything actually proven as Hasbara, like phrenology was thrown around a century ago to prove blacks where inferior without actually proving anything beyond a bias)

Yeah, ok. So guilty but not guilty enough.
Yes. A power vacuum is another war crime.

If you read the link I posted a few days ago you'd have learned about how the "civil sector" is kept around for continuity. A complete out the door hasn't happened in ages. Real ages.

If it weren't Hasbara they'd provide the evidence. Where is the evidence? Allegations of that scope requires proof. Until then it's bullshit.

Guilty of what? Proximity? Surprised they did get accidentally 1 tonned.
 

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Yes. A power vacuum is another war crime.
If you read the link I posted a few days ago you'd have learned about how the "civil sector" is kept around for continuity. A complete out the door hasn't happened in ages. Real ages.
Perhaps the civil sector can be vetted individually, and they either get the thumbs up or the thumbs down.
If it weren't Hasbara they'd provide the evidence. Where is the evidence? Allegations of that scope requires proof. Until then it's bullshit.

Guilty of what? Proximity? Surprised they did get accidentally 1 tonned.
 

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At least they let some of the women and children held without charges for two years go.

They don't look as healthy as the Israel hostages who thanked and in one instance kissed his al Qassam caretaker.

To be fair, the health of the Israeli hostages varied, I think, depending on who had them and where in Gaza they were. Some actually were treated okay, some where not.

Overall, the Palestinians kept in Israel's hands were not treated well at all. Nor does Israel have a right to throw out "oh our people were raped, tortured" etc when THEY did the same to captured Palestinians.
 
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To be fair, the health of the Israeli hostages varied, I think, depending on who had them and where in Gaza they were. Some actually were treated okay, some where not.

Overall, the Palestinians kept in Israel's hands were not treated well at all. Nor does Israel have a right to throw out "oh our people were raped, tortured" etc when THEY did the same to captured Palestinians.
Time and time again Israeli hostages thanked their al-Qassam caretakers for treating them so well. Yes there some mistreated and such which is to be expected but thanking, hugging and kissing captors was surprising.

I doubt any Palestinian hostages did the same when raped and torture orders came from Israeli leadership.

A March 2025 UN Commission of Inquiry report concluded that such acts, including rape and violence to the genitals, were committed under explicit orders or implicit encouragement from Israeli leadership, amounting to violations of international law and potentially genocidal acts

Now this is downright disgusting and a stain on Israeli society as a whole. I've never heard of a protest against soldiers forced to stop raping and abusing prisoners. Its fucking evil.

On October 14, 2025, far-right Israeli protesters, including extremist members of parliament from the country's coalition government, stormed the Sde Teiman military base in southern Israel. The facility, located in the Negev desert, has been used as a detention center for Palestinians from Gaza since the onset of the current conflict. The protesters burst into the compound in a show of solidarity with nine reservist soldiers who were taken into custody by military police amid an ongoing investigation into allegations of sexual abuse against a Palestinian detainee there. The initial military court hearing related to the case occurred on July 30, 2024, and the accusations stem from reported severe mistreatment at the site, which has drawn international scrutiny for patterns of detainee abuse. This incident echoes a similar storming of the base by far-right groups in July 2024, highlighting persistent domestic divisions over military accountability during the war. Israeli authorities have not yet released details on any immediate arrests or consequences from the latest breach, but it comes amid a fragile Gaza ceasefire and the release of nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners as part of the deal.
 
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I can't help but wonder if a reason why the bodies aren't being returned, is because there's nothing to return? Could some of them have been in places that were bombed out and thus rendered pieces?

If so, HAMAS needs to be clear this is what happened. Not that Israel would likely believe it.

And if they're dragging ass just to provoke things up again, it will come back to bite them, I think. It may be Palestinians are tired of this bullshit and will do something; there's already some hints of a civil war there.
 
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I can't help but wonder if a reason why the bodies aren't being returned, is because there's nothing to return? Could some of them have been in places that were bombed out and thus rendered pieces?
If IDF brings a couple of their bulldozers and excavators from West Bank that are used to level towns and farms, recovery would speed up significantly.

Not much of a ceasefire when 29 were murdered overnight In Gaza.

Palestinians are tired of this bullshit and will do something; there's already some hints of a civil war there.

Not so much a civil war but a rounding up of Isis affiliated drug dealing thugs Bibi hired to steal aid to then blame Hamas.
 
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If IDF brings a couple of their bulldozers and excavators from West Bank that are used to level towns and farms, recovery would speed up significantly.

Not much of a ceasefire when 29 were murdered overnight In Gaza.

True.


Not so much a civil war but a rounding up of Isis affiliated drug dealing thugs Bibi hired to steal aid to then blame Hamas.

Also true.

Which is why Bibi is the true Master behind all this bullshit, tbh.
 

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I can't help but wonder if a reason why the bodies aren't being returned, is because there's nothing to return?
Could some of them be evidence of things that go beyond beyond as far as atrocities go? Could that be part of the reason there’s more ‘misplaced’ bodies than there were hostages walking out of Gaza at hopefully what is the tail end of this current goat rodeo?
 

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Could some of them be evidence of things that go beyond beyond as far as atrocities go? Could that be part of the reason there’s more ‘misplaced’ bodies than there were hostages walking out of Gaza?
Doubt it. Not when holocaustages have stated the caretakers put themselves in harms ways to protect them during strikes.
 

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Just like they put themselves in harms way to protect the citizens of Gaza during the strikes? 🤔
Did they? Got proof? Seen video have you? Got links? Maybe lynx? The most surveilled and videoed war ever so you must have dozen upon dozen of links to video to proven your claim? Cough em up.

2 years worth of that claim yet you've never given any proof just holowash, rinse, repeat.
 

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Did they? Got proof? Seen video have you? Got links?
Did they? Got proof? Seen video have you? Got links?

Like…the link you…quoted? Says some positive and negative things about Hamas (& Friends) in it. Something like that?
The most surveilled and videoed war ever so you must have dozen upon dozen of links to video to proven your claim? Cough em up.
Doubt it. Not when holocaustages have stated the caretakers put themselves in harms ways to protect them during strikes.
After you, Alfonse.