What are the key sticking points in Trump's Gaza peace plan? — BBC News
Negotiators from Israel and Hamas are heading to Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, to start indirect talks about ending the Israel-Gaza war.
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Why not solve the cause first? I wouldn't dis arm until they're disarmed.This is the one that’s been focussed on first.
What are the key sticking points in Trump's Gaza peace plan? — BBC News
Negotiators from Israel and Hamas are heading to Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, to start indirect talks about ending the Israel-Gaza war.apple.news
You’re asking the wrong guy, because like yourself, I am also just following along and not a participant in these negotiations.
Maybe about Oct 6th 2023 your idea could’ve been first on the dance card, but by noon on Oct 7th 2023, it wasn’t anymore.
Your question would be best asked of Hamas & Bibi & Orange Jesus & the many many mediators that may or may not be trying to wind this up quickly or even at all.
Hamas (& its appendages) do have the option of not disarming. I heard that was part of the either/or choice last Monday. Hamas (& its military wing) can choose not to disarm, and if so, then Israel comes in and cleans that out with US backing. I think that’s what was said a week ago today?
That’s so last week though, and Trump could’ve flip-flopped on that, which wouldn’t be surprising at all, but then next week he could flip back, and then the week after he could flop the other way, and so on and so forth…kind of like an unpredictable metronome.
Well, this does just keep getting weirder and weirder.
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Did the Italian PM offend Greta’s Flotilla?
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Speaking in an interview with state television company RAI, Meloni said Defence Minister Guido Crosetto and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani had been denounced, and "I think" also Roberto Cingolani, the head of defence group Leonardo <LDOF.MI.
In other remarks, Meloni said she believed that US President Donald Trump had come to the conclusion that Russia was not interested in a peace deal with Ukraine.
Greta Thunberg alleges torture in Israeli detention after Gaza flotilla arrest — Reuters
Swedish activist Greta Thunberg alleged on Tuesday that she and other detainees of the Gaza flotilla were subjected to torture in the Israeli prison they were held.
Italy's Meloni says she has been denounced to ICC for complicity in genocide — Reuters
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said on Tuesday that she and two of her ministers had been reported to the International Criminal Court for alleged complicity in genocide in connection with Israel's offensive in Gaza.
In other remarks, Meloni said she believed that US President Donald Trump had come to the conclusion that Russia was not interested in a peace deal with Ukraine.
Put over a knee and spanked?Well, this does just keep getting weirder and weirder.
Did the Italian PM offend Greta’s Flotilla?Greta Thunberg alleges torture in Israeli detention after Gaza flotilla arrest — Reuters
Swedish activist Greta Thunberg alleged on Tuesday that she and other detainees of the Gaza flotilla were subjected to torture in the Israeli prison they were held.
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Speaking in an interview with state television company RAI, Meloni said Defence Minister Guido Crosetto and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani had been denounced, and "I think" also Roberto Cingolani, the head of defence group Leonardo <LDOF.MI.Italy's Meloni says she has been denounced to ICC for complicity in genocide — Reuters
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said on Tuesday that she and two of her ministers had been reported to the International Criminal Court for alleged complicity in genocide in connection with Israel's offensive in Gaza.
In other remarks, Meloni said she believed that US President Donald Trump had come to the conclusion that Russia was not interested in a peace deal with Ukraine.
Well, doesn’t seem to be covered with Bedbugs bites or bruises from manhandling…& for not being able to change her clothing for 2-3 days and wearing a white shirt? It’s still white…while having to sleep on the floor in a dirty cell, etc…
And she’s already back out in social media:
And still not understanding how little she understands about the situation, or how much of a useful idiot she actually is…
But the Italian PM that offered to take the flotillas ‘aid’ to Gaza and in turn was then accused of sabotaging “the mission,” is now reported to the ICC for complicity in genocide, but no word of anyone at the Vatican facing the same fate yet.
Toronto high school scolded for playing Arabic O Canada on Oct. 7
Education Minister Paul Calandra warns incident at Earl Haig Secondary School better not happen again
Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Oct 07, 2025 • Last updated 13 hours ago • 3 minute read
Saying he doesn’t “believe” it was accidental, Ontario’s education minister lambasted a Toronto high school Tuesday for playing an Arabic version of O Canada as Jewish students mourned the second anniversary of the barbaric mass murders of Oct. 7.
Education Minister Paul Calandra has warned it had better never happen again.
Yes, that was the Canadian national anthem students and staff were standing to Tuesday at Earl Haig Secondary School in North York on the sombre day of Oct. 7 and Calandra was not buying any excuse it was an accident.
“It is hard to believe that no one recognized the significance of this day, where the world recognizes the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack perpetrated against the Jewish people since the Holocaust,” said a clearly upset Calandra. “This further underscores that school boards should be focused on creating safe learning environments for all students, never at the expense of one community over another.”
Since, by law, the anthem is to be sung, performed or played in one of Canada’s two official languages, French or English, having O Canada in Arabic played over the loudspeakers to start off a high school day was already controversial.
But to do it on the anniversary of the slaughter by Hamas terrorists in Israel was outright cruelty toward Jewish students in the school.
One parent of a Jewish student there told the Toronto Sun their child was “completely shaken up” since, in addition to playing the alternate anthem in Arabic, school officials “couldn’t bring themselves to say the word Jewish or Israel and explain that two years ago from this date was the greatest massacre of Jews since the holocaust.”
The parent added Jewish kids feel “they need to hide their religion because even their own leaders aren’t comfortable acknowledging them and makes them feel ashamed of who they are.”
The Ministry of Education and the Toronto District School Board are investigating.
This incident collided not only with the Oct. 7 day of remembrance for 1,200 Israelis, Canadians and foreign nationals slayed in cold blood by Hamas militants using hang gliders to get across the wall to attack a music festival and a kibbutz, but it also fell on the high holiday of Sukkot.
It’s estimated there are up to 100 Jewish students who attend the school that is home to 2,048 students.
“This was, at best, insensitive,” wrote former MP and Israel advocate Kevin Vuong on social-media platform X. He was also worried the anthem was “intentionally meant to cause distress and harm to their Jewish students.”
As of this point, it’s unknown what the thinking was.
While there are some suggesting it was accidental, Calandra rightfully told the school to save the excuses for the naive. The school, which is part of the TDSB and under provincial supervision, is not getting a pass on this one.
Calandra warned them, and all other Ontario schools, to never play an altered version of O Canada again.
“I am disappointed that I would have to direct that school boards demonstrate appropriate respect for our National Anthem by ensuring that it is played only in its official form,” said Calandra, adding the “federal National Anthem Act sets out that the official lyrics are in English or French, and if school boards choose not to respect our national symbols and federal legislation, then I will take action.”
Saying he “applauds the minister for speaking out forcefully on the matter,” Meir Weinstein of Israel Now said the “decision by Earl Haig school to broadcast the Canadian Anthem on Oct. 7 must be investigated because it can be interpreted as an endorsement of the Hamas slaughter of Israelis.”
This was not the only concerning incident to occur in a GTA high school on Oct. 7. Both St. Aloysius Gonzaga Catholic Secondary School and John Fraser Secondary School saw students protesting with Palestinian flags and banging drums on the very day that too many Jews were slain or taken hostage.
It’s mind-boggling how high school students are permitted to leave class to insensitively protest against another race, religion or country. It would not be tolerated, and should not be tolerated, if someone protested against students of Palestinian background for what happened during the evil attack on Oct. 7, 2023.
If students want to protest Israel’s response to the terror event, they should be reminded that they can do that on their own time and not on school premises.
But one thing made abundantly clear by Calandra is what happened with this Arabic version of the Canadian anthem being played on Oct. 7 or any other date is unacceptable.
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Education Minister Paul Calandra warns incident at Earl Haig Secondary School better not happen again
Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Oct 07, 2025 • Last updated 13 hours ago • 3 minute read
Saying he doesn’t “believe” it was accidental, Ontario’s education minister lambasted a Toronto high school Tuesday for playing an Arabic version of O Canada as Jewish students mourned the second anniversary of the barbaric mass murders of Oct. 7.
Education Minister Paul Calandra has warned it had better never happen again.
Yes, that was the Canadian national anthem students and staff were standing to Tuesday at Earl Haig Secondary School in North York on the sombre day of Oct. 7 and Calandra was not buying any excuse it was an accident.
“It is hard to believe that no one recognized the significance of this day, where the world recognizes the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack perpetrated against the Jewish people since the Holocaust,” said a clearly upset Calandra. “This further underscores that school boards should be focused on creating safe learning environments for all students, never at the expense of one community over another.”
Since, by law, the anthem is to be sung, performed or played in one of Canada’s two official languages, French or English, having O Canada in Arabic played over the loudspeakers to start off a high school day was already controversial.
But to do it on the anniversary of the slaughter by Hamas terrorists in Israel was outright cruelty toward Jewish students in the school.
One parent of a Jewish student there told the Toronto Sun their child was “completely shaken up” since, in addition to playing the alternate anthem in Arabic, school officials “couldn’t bring themselves to say the word Jewish or Israel and explain that two years ago from this date was the greatest massacre of Jews since the holocaust.”
The parent added Jewish kids feel “they need to hide their religion because even their own leaders aren’t comfortable acknowledging them and makes them feel ashamed of who they are.”
The Ministry of Education and the Toronto District School Board are investigating.
This incident collided not only with the Oct. 7 day of remembrance for 1,200 Israelis, Canadians and foreign nationals slayed in cold blood by Hamas militants using hang gliders to get across the wall to attack a music festival and a kibbutz, but it also fell on the high holiday of Sukkot.
It’s estimated there are up to 100 Jewish students who attend the school that is home to 2,048 students.
“This was, at best, insensitive,” wrote former MP and Israel advocate Kevin Vuong on social-media platform X. He was also worried the anthem was “intentionally meant to cause distress and harm to their Jewish students.”
As of this point, it’s unknown what the thinking was.
While there are some suggesting it was accidental, Calandra rightfully told the school to save the excuses for the naive. The school, which is part of the TDSB and under provincial supervision, is not getting a pass on this one.
Calandra warned them, and all other Ontario schools, to never play an altered version of O Canada again.
“I am disappointed that I would have to direct that school boards demonstrate appropriate respect for our National Anthem by ensuring that it is played only in its official form,” said Calandra, adding the “federal National Anthem Act sets out that the official lyrics are in English or French, and if school boards choose not to respect our national symbols and federal legislation, then I will take action.”
Saying he “applauds the minister for speaking out forcefully on the matter,” Meir Weinstein of Israel Now said the “decision by Earl Haig school to broadcast the Canadian Anthem on Oct. 7 must be investigated because it can be interpreted as an endorsement of the Hamas slaughter of Israelis.”
This was not the only concerning incident to occur in a GTA high school on Oct. 7. Both St. Aloysius Gonzaga Catholic Secondary School and John Fraser Secondary School saw students protesting with Palestinian flags and banging drums on the very day that too many Jews were slain or taken hostage.
It’s mind-boggling how high school students are permitted to leave class to insensitively protest against another race, religion or country. It would not be tolerated, and should not be tolerated, if someone protested against students of Palestinian background for what happened during the evil attack on Oct. 7, 2023.
If students want to protest Israel’s response to the terror event, they should be reminded that they can do that on their own time and not on school premises.
But one thing made abundantly clear by Calandra is what happened with this Arabic version of the Canadian anthem being played on Oct. 7 or any other date is unacceptable.
WARMINGTON: Toronto high school scolded for playing Arabic O Canada on Oct. 7
Ontario’s education minister lambasted a Toronto high school Tuesday for playing an Arabic version of O Canada on Oct. 7.
Here’s a weird one…Sept 24/25th
The Sumud accuses Italy of sabotage the flotilla by offering to take the aid to Israel, so we can enter through official channels.
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Probably just another coincidence? The Palestinian advocacy group behind the complaint naming Meloni is calling for the court to assess the possibility of opening a formal investigation into the charge of genocide against the Italian prime minister, AFP also reported.
The ICC has outstanding arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defence Minister Yoav Gallant over charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza, including starvation, murder and persecution.
However, neither Netanyahu nor Gallant has been charged with genocide specifically?
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Then more fuckery to interfere with the peace process again…
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Last week Israel intercepted about 40 vessels and detained more than 450 activists including the Swedish climate campaigner Greta Thunberg. Some activists have alleged being subjected to physical and verbal abuse by Israeli forces and being denied medical care during their detention, etc…
The Sumud accuses Italy of sabotage the flotilla by offering to take the aid to Israel, so we can enter through official channels.
Italy's Meloni says ICC complaint accuses her of Gaza genocide complicity — Al Jazeera
A complaint lodged with the ICC points to the Italian government's role supplying lethal weapons to Israel amid Gaza war
The ICC has outstanding arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defence Minister Yoav Gallant over charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza, including starvation, murder and persecution.
However, neither Netanyahu nor Gallant has been charged with genocide specifically?
?????
Then more fuckery to interfere with the peace process again…
Israel halts another Gaza aid flotilla as MEPs demand activists’ release — Guardian US
New group of vessels intercepted in international waters while at least seven people from previous flotilla still held