Hamas attacks Israel

[petros]

Something is blowing pretty hard, but it’s the winds of change and the winds of propaganda among other things.

Ok, so it’s not actually about the symbolic and representative aid? At least we’re on the same page here. Wonder how this particular “far far right genocidal regime” was chosen over the other “far far right genocidal regime” in this goat rodeo (?) and why this one over top of all the other ones that are currently happening? Yeah…whataboutism.. What’s different about this one?

Actually, I have replied. I’ve googled it and it’s some sect of freaks with a global population total of about 200. Can’t remember the name of it off the top of my head…but if you would like I could Google it or you could Google it. Pretty sure those 200 (Maybe 300 globally?) aren’t running the world. It’s probably lost somewhere in this 326 pages for the times I have responded to the same repetitive question.

Here, let me look this up for you again.

Shlomo Helbrans - Wikipedia

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Yes, they are a bunch of incestuous freaks, & no I don’t think they’re running the world, & can the world do without them? I’m pretty sure the global keeps spinning if those 200 people aren’t around, but that’s neither here nor there. Hell, I think we both laughed at the name Shlomo.

Ugh…ok. I never noticed whatever you’re referring to.

Maybe this was planned to overfly the flotilla and release drones on his way to the UN?

Here’s a couple recent-ish ones where we didn’t discuss the Shlomo-ians?
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What propaganda do you speak of?

The words of the JKK used against the JKK?

They don't openly admit to genocide?

Are you going to post maps?

Post the one that shows recognition of Palestine from 2025.

The Jew Klux Klan turned Israel into a pariah.

WTG dumbasses.

 

[Ron in Regina]

What propaganda do you speak of?

Ok, well, have to start here:

Hamas attacks Israel

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/more-than-200-killed-1-100-wounded-in-hamas-attack-on-israel-rescue-service-says-1.6593063 Fuck Hamas. More proof that neither side wanted peace. The only people I pity are the actual, real innocents who are going to die in this bullshit war, be they Israeli or...

forums.canadiancontent.net

& when you get to the last page, let me know.

The words of the JKK used against the JKK?

Aside from yourself, and probably some pretty obscure mouth foaming references, where else have you seen this term? Throw me a bone link on this one?

Are you going to post maps?

Would you like me to? I’ve got some cool ones. Not even about the Middle East. I’ve always liked maps. Seems they’re fighting about…territory…on a map…that’s in dispute. Define “Palestine’s” boundaries without using a map or geographical references. I’ll wait. Might even go hit the shower while I’m waiting.

 

[petros]

October 7 isn't coming back.

15 civilians for every al Qassam isn't fighting "Hamas" when you openly endorse genocide, cut off water, energy, food, destroy all civilian infrastructure and shoot or bomb indescribably while youre are committing genocide. People are going get mad and say you, "you are committing a genocide" and forcibly stop the genocide and hold trials for those who participated in the genocide just like Nuremberg.

Has Israel's Far-Right Endorsed Genocide?

Overview

Yes, some Israeli far-right leaders have made statements that align with the legal definition of genocide (UN Genocide Convention, 1948), including calls for Gaza's destruction, mass expulsion, or nuclear strikes. These are cited in legal cases (e.g., South Africa's ICJ case) and by human rights groups as evidence of genocidal intent. Israel denies this, framing actions as self-defense post-October 2023 Hamas attacks. Below are key examples and context, formatted for easy reading on mobile.

Key Far-Right Figures & Statements
Itamar Ben-Gvir (National Security Minister, Otzma Yehudit)
What: Called for removing Palestinians from Gaza; arms West Bank settlers for expulsions.
Why: Rooted in Kahanist ideology (banned for racism). UN experts call this "genocidal."

Bezalel Smotrich (Finance Minister, Religious Zionism)
What: Urged "halving Gaza’s population" via displacement; said Huwara village should be "wiped out" (2023).
Why: Seeks annexation, views Palestinians as a threat. Cited in ICJ genocide case.

Amichai Eliyahu (Heritage Minister, Otzma Yehudit)
What: Suggested nuclear bomb on Gaza (2023); said no civilians are "uninvolved" (2025).
Why: Dehumanizes Palestinians; briefly suspended but reinstated. Called "genocidal" by scholars.

Nissim Vaturi (Likud, Knesset Deputy Speaker)
What: Called for "erasing Gaza" (2023); urged destroying food/water sources (2025).
Why: Ties far-right to ruling party. UN reports flag this as genocidal intent.

Moshe Feiglin (Zehut Party Founder)
What: Explicitly called for "mass genocide in Gaza" (April 2025).
Why: Advocates annexation and Palestinian subjugation; widely condemned.

Hanoch Milwidsky (Likud)
What: Pushed destroying Gaza’s water/food to force evacuation (May 2025).
Why: Aligns with "Dahiya doctrine" (disproportionate destruction), labeled genocidal by experts.

Context

Legal Definition: Genocide includes acts like killing or creating destructive conditions with intent to destroy a group (e.g., Palestinians). UN (2025) and ICJ (2024) found plausible evidence.

Human Rights: B’Tselem, Amnesty (2024), and others cite 60,000+ Palestinian deaths, systemic destruction, and far-right rhetoric as genocidal.

Israeli Response: Netanyahu calls accusations "antisemitic," blames Hamas. Allies (e.g., US) argue self-defense, not genocide.

Trends: Far-right ideology (e.g., Hardal) has grown under Netanyahu. Polls show 25-40% of Israelis back Gaza resettlement, displacing Palestinians.

Sources for More
B’Tselem: "Our Genocide" report
UN: September 2025 Inquiry
Neutral: BBC, AP
Pro-Palestinian: Al Jazeera
Pro-Israel: AJC

Note: This is a sensitive topic. Data comes from verified reports and statements across perspectives. For deeper analysis, check linked sources.

Date: September 25, 2025

Zionism gone wrong.

Could broaden the perimeters to include all MKs and parliamentary hopefuls for their endorsements of genocide.

 

[Ron in Regina]

October 7 isn't coming back.

Seems I recall promises of it coming back repeatedly? Bet if I dust off my Google, it wouldn’t take much to find them.

Palestinian statehood or not, Oct 7 2.0 isn’t far away, and will happen in both of our lifetimes I’m sure. As long as Israel still exists, the next one is just a matter of time. Do you disagree? Nobody has promised 2.0 to come and happen repeatedly?

 

[petros]

Seems I recall promises of it coming back repeatedly? Bet if I dust off my Google, it wouldn’t take much to find them.

Palestinian statehood or not, Oct 7 2.0 isn’t far away, and will happen in both of our lifetimes I’m sure. As long as Israel still exists, the next one is just a matter of time. Do you disagree? Nobody has promised 2.0 to come and happen repeatedly?

From who? Netanyahu the war criminal?

Screw google. AI is instant.

Based on recent speeches and reports, Netanyahu's warned about Hamas plotting a second October 7 around four times this year-once in April, saying it'd be only a question of time if Hamas isn't crushed, and others tied to intel alerts in March and July, plus his UN address last week hitting the theme hard. No exact tally exists, but it's his go-to line for rallying support.

Nothing is more taboo than genociding children, women and elderly.

15-1....

 

[Ron in Regina]

From who? Netanyahu the war criminal?

Screw google. AI is instant.

Yep…an AI answer to a question that’s not show to provide an answer to unknown prompts is worth what?

15-1....

Ok.

UN Rapporteur Albanese suggests 680,000 may be actual death toll of Palestinians in Gaza

UN Rapporteur Francesca Albanese says 680,000 may be the real number of Palestinians killed in Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza, during a UN OHCHR press briefi...

www.youtube.com

(YouTube & UN Rapporteur Albanese suggests 680,000 may be actual death toll of Palestinians in Gaza)

(YouTube & 680,000 Palestinians didn’t die)

What propaganda do you speak of?

Well…aside from the above, and the last 300+ pages in this thread…

??? Da Pope? Doesn’t sound like a trustworthy guy.

Are you talking about the Greta Sumud Flotilla again?

October 7 isn't coming back.

Ok.

(YouTube & Hamas Terrorist's Shocking Interview Threatens To Repeat October 7 Attack "Again & Again, Till..")

Yes, some Israeli far-right leaders have made statements that align with the legal definition of genocide

Ok.

Nova music festival massacre - Wikipedia

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(YouTube & Hamas official claims it's their 'legal right' to fight against Israeli occupation)

 

[petros]

Yep…an AI answer to a question that’s not show to provide an answer to unknown prompts is worth what?

Ok.

UN Rapporteur Albanese suggests 680,000 may be actual death toll of Palestinians in Gaza

UN Rapporteur Francesca Albanese says 680,000 may be the real number of Palestinians killed in Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza, during a UN OHCHR press briefi...

www.youtube.com

(YouTube & UN Rapporteur Albanese suggests 680,000 may be actual death toll of Palestinians in Gaza)

(YouTube & 680,000 Palestinians didn’t die)

Well…aside from the above, and the last 300+ pages in this thread…
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??? Da Pope? Doesn’t sound like a trustworthy guy.

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(YouTube & Hamas Terrorist's Shocking Interview Threatens To Repeat October 7 Attack "Again & Again, Till..")

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Nova music festival massacre - Wikipedia

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(YouTube & Hamas official claims it's their 'legal right' to fight against Israeli occupation)

Why didn't you like the AI answer. Did it lie?

Do you believe it gives one source rather than an amalgamation of verified sources packaged and wrapped up neatly with a bow?

Is it full of shit when it says "another Oct 7" is a go to line for Netanyahu to rally support?


Is AI being mean to the genocider in Chief?



300+ pages of Ron suckered into supporting genocide through propaganda?


Why is there a Hamas and why did they attack on Oct 7?

What does antique Google tell you?

Can you math?

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war.

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

Emma Graham-Harrison and Yuval Abraham in Jerusalem
Thu 21 Aug 2025 14.30 BST
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Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare.

As of May, 19 months into the war, Israeli intelligence officials listed 8,900 named fighters from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad as dead or “probably dead”, a joint investigation by the Guardian, the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and the Hebrew-language outlet Local Call has found.

At that time 53,000 Palestinians had been killed by Israeli attacks, according to health authorities in Gaza, a toll that included combatants and civilians. Fighters named in the Israeli military intelligence database accounted for just 17% of the total, which indicates that 83% of the dead were civilians.

That apparent ratio of civilians to combatants among the dead is extremely high for modern warfare, even compared with conflicts notorious for indiscriminate killing, including the Syrian and Sudanese civil wars.

“That proportion of civilians among those killed would be unusually high, particularly as it has been going on for such a long time,” said Therése Pettersson from the Uppsala Conflict Data Program, which tracks civilian casualties worldwide. “If you single out a particular city or battle in another conflict, you could find similar rates, but very rarely overall.”

8,900
Named fighters listed as dead or ‘probably dead’ in Israeli database as of May 2025

In global conflicts tracked by UCDP since 1989, civilians made up a greater proportion of the dead only in Srebenica – although not the Bosnian war overall – in the Rwandan genocide, and during the Russian siege of Mariupol in 2022, Pettersson said.

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

www.theguardian.com

 

[petros]

Why didn't you like the AI answer. Did it lie?

Do you believe it gives one source rather than an amalgamation of verified sources packaged and wrapped up neatly with a bow?

Is it full of shit when it says "another Oct 7" is a go to line for Netanyahu to rally support?


Is AI being mean to the genocider in Chief?


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300+ pages of Ron suckered into supporting genocide through propaganda?


Why is there a Hamas and why did they attack on Oct 7?

What does antique Google tell you?

Can you math?

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war.

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

Emma Graham-Harrison and Yuval Abraham in Jerusalem
Thu 21 Aug 2025 14.30 BST
Share
Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare.

As of May, 19 months into the war, Israeli intelligence officials listed 8,900 named fighters from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad as dead or “probably dead”, a joint investigation by the Guardian, the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and the Hebrew-language outlet Local Call has found.

At that time 53,000 Palestinians had been killed by Israeli attacks, according to health authorities in Gaza, a toll that included combatants and civilians. Fighters named in the Israeli military intelligence database accounted for just 17% of the total, which indicates that 83% of the dead were civilians.

That apparent ratio of civilians to combatants among the dead is extremely high for modern warfare, even compared with conflicts notorious for indiscriminate killing, including the Syrian and Sudanese civil wars.

“That proportion of civilians among those killed would be unusually high, particularly as it has been going on for such a long time,” said Therése Pettersson from the Uppsala Conflict Data Program, which tracks civilian casualties worldwide. “If you single out a particular city or battle in another conflict, you could find similar rates, but very rarely overall.”

8,900
Named fighters listed as dead or ‘probably dead’ in Israeli database as of May 2025

In global conflicts tracked by UCDP since 1989, civilians made up a greater proportion of the dead only in Srebenica – although not the Bosnian war overall – in the Rwandan genocide, and during the Russian siege of Mariupol in 2022, Pettersson said.

Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war

Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000

www.theguardian.com

Civilians made up 15 of every 16 people killed by Israel in Gaza since March, data suggests

Report from independent conflict tracker Acled indicates one of the highest civilian death rates since start of war

Jason Burke in Jerusalem
Fri 19 Sep 2025 17.15 BST

About 15 of every 16 Palestinians the Israeli military has killed since its renewed offensive in Gaza began in March have been civilians, data collected by the independent violence-tracking organisation Acled indicates.

The civilian death rate implied by a report from Acled, which stands for Armed Conflict Location and Event Data, is one of the highest recorded during the conflict, and will increase international pressure on Israel as its forces advance into Gaza City, forcing up to a million people to evacuate and threatening further large-scale civilian casualties.

 

[petros]

Civilians made up 15 of every 16 people killed by Israel in Gaza since March, data suggests

Report from independent conflict tracker Acled indicates one of the highest civilian death rates since start of war

Jason Burke in Jerusalem
Fri 19 Sep 2025 17.15 BST

About 15 of every 16 Palestinians the Israeli military has killed since its renewed offensive in Gaza began in March have been civilians, data collected by the independent violence-tracking organisation Acled indicates.

The civilian death rate implied by a report from Acled, which stands for Armed Conflict Location and Event Data, is one of the highest recorded during the conflict, and will increase international pressure on Israel as its forces advance into Gaza City, forcing up to a million people to evacuate and threatening further large-scale civilian casualties.

7 of those 15 are children the rest women and elderly non-combatants.

 

[petros]

Haaretz - back to home page

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U.S. News

Support for Israel in U.S. Drops Sharply, Netanyahu Unpopular, New Poll Shows

Quinnipiac survey finds only 47% of Americans see backing Israel as a U.S. interest, down from 69% in 2023. Half of voters believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, while just 31% approve of Trump's handling of the war ahead of Netanyahu's UN and White House meetings


Etan Nechin New YorkFollow
09:00 PM • September 25 2025 IDT
NEW YORK – Support for Israel is slipping among American voters, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.

I wonder why?

 

[petros]

Execute the Warrants!!! Arrest Netanyahu.

 

[spaminator]

Why didn't you like the AI answer

i was under the impression that to use ai search you need a recent processor and you need to pay a monthly fee?

 

[petros]

i was under the impression that to use ai search you need a recent processor and you need to pay a monthly fee?

Nope. For high end features like video creation and graphics you pay but basic is free. All processing is by them.

I'm using grok. Its freaking amazing. Google is like a Model T from 100 years ago.

 

[spaminator]

Nope. For high end features like video creation and graphics you pay but basic is free.

I'm using grok. Its freaking amazing. Google is like a Model T from 100 years ago.

 

[petros]

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Have fun. For best results be specific with prompts. Things like "using verified facts, logic and no biases describe the _______."

 

[Ron in Regina]

Is it full of shit when it says "another Oct 7" is a go to line for Netanyahu to rally support?

Is it also an actual quote from one of the Hamas leaders in Doha? One of the ones negotiating from Qatar? Does your AI mention that (?) or is it responding to your specific prompts?

Why don’t you try throwing in the prompts of, “How many times has Hamas threatened a repeat of Oct 7th attacks?” It’s not Netanyahu threatening more Oct 7th 2.0’s….so the AI is following the prompts it is given. If you’re not asking it a direct question but feeding in your own bias, it’ll spit out an answer that verifies your bias.

 

[petros]

Is it also an actual quote from one of the Hamas leaders in Doha? One of the ones negotiating from Qatar? Does your AI mention that (?) or is it responding to your specific prompts?

Why don’t you try throwing in the prompts of, “How many times has Hamas threatened a repeat of Oct 7th attacks?” It’s not Netanyahu threatening more Oct 7th 2.0’s….so the AI is following the prompts it is given. If you’re not asking it a direct question but feeding in your own bias, it’ll spit out an answer that verifies your bias.
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I asked your exact question. Then ask to make short and sweet so you'll actually read it.

 

[petros]

Garbage in was you. 20 sites used 36 post used.

Garbage out was all you too.

17 months since Hamas. Netanyahu said it again today.


Get with the times.

 

[petros]

Just in case.....

 

[Ron in Regina]

Is it still December 2023 the last time a threat was made (one guy dead) or is it 26 09 2025.

Garbage in garbage out eh? Its the same garbage on google just compiled.

How come you couldn't find it?

Much of the time I’m busy and I invest about two minutes towards this when I take a break every roughly 60-90 minutes when time permits.

I’m not saying your AI’s answer was garbage, but I’m saying if you put a leading question with bias to it, you get a leading answer with bias Incorporated into it.

You stated…

October 7 isn't coming back.

To back up your statement, you feed to your AI the following:

…& do you honestly not see this yourself? How many times this Bibi mentions this has no bearing on the ones promising to perpetrate it. This would be true regardless of the topic with respect to input/output to a machine.

Is it still December 2023 the last time a threat was made (one guy dead) or is it 26 09 2025.

You need to tell that to the guy in Doha, not myself.

(YouTube & October 7 Attack Created 'Golden Moment' For Palestinian Cause: Hamas Official)

Ghazi Hamad - Wikipedia

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