Hamas attacks Israel

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I don’t hate anyone. I’m not swearing. There’s a rabbit hole and you might have stumbled over the edge is all. If not and you need to take a step back and look around, or not, that’s totally your call, but you’re not coming across as….

Dude, there’s at least two sides here, and none of them are angels, but you’re frothing at the mouth most of the time, about one of them, and only one of them. That’s all.

The subject is interesting. I’ve learned a lot about that chunk of the world in the last better part of two years, as have we all, but for me, it’s an abstract thing. Yes I can have empathy, more with one side than the other, but I do have empathy with both. You’re not there.

I was asking you earlier if you were capable of taking a step back I’m looking around, at both sides, to the same standard…& here we are.

I have never accused you of being a paid schill for anybody, but on this topic, repeatedly, you‘ve accused me of that. It’s a bizarre thing at a place where most of us come to play, and learn, and for stress relief.

Frick. I posted this and the last four or five paragraphs are missing which…ugh… leaves the first half of this out of context.

Anyway, I’ve still got things. I wish to accomplish tonight like policing after four dogs in my backyard as I do every night.
For sure you do. You arent Jewish so whats the reality?

Two sides for sure. One is stealing land using terrorism and wholesale liquidating of human lives the others are the ones being liquidated and their land stolen.
 

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IDF Detains Israelis Who Crossed Border Into Syria in Bid to Establish Outpost
Adi Hashmonai
Aug 19, 2025 1:45 pm IDT

Dozens of Israelis, including parents with children, crossed through the border fence on the Golan Heights on Monday.


Sweeeeet. Greater Israel is a myth.
 

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It's crazy to me how much Israel is being used by the extremist Christians now (like this wackadoo).

The ONLY reason the US is letting things go is for their fucked up "End Times" bullshit.
Exactly. It all leads back to a guy named Scofield.

I know you aren't religious but because this is allegedly based on God giving Jews Israel. I in turn can dig up all the Bible passages necessary to prove God hates Jews and handed Israel over to the Gentiles (Christians)

I don't qualify Evangelicalism as Christianity. It's a fucking cult of brainwashed idiots participating in a Israeli psy-op.

A taste of the Bible that's says Jews aren't worthy of God.


In Matthew 21:33-44, Jesus tells the parable of the wicked tenants, illustrating God's relationship with Israel and the consequences of rejecting His messengers, including His Son. The parable depicts a landowner who rents out his vineyard to tenants who mistreat and kill the servants sent to collect the harvest, ultimately murdering the landowner's son. This parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders who were rejecting Jesus, highlighting their failure to produce spiritual fruit and their impending judgment.

Here's a breakdown of the parable's key elements and their meanings:
  • The Landowner:
    Represents God.

  • The Vineyard:
    Represents God's people, particularly Israel and the covenant relationship with them.

  • The Tenants:
    Represent the religious leaders of Israel, including the priests, scribes, and Pharisees.

  • The Servants:
    Represent the prophets sent by God throughout history to call Israel to repentance.

  • The Son:
    Represents Jesus, God's ultimate messenger, who is ultimately rejected and killed by the tenants.
Interpretation:
  • The parable highlights God's generosity in entrusting Israel with His blessings and responsibilities.

  • The tenants' mistreatment and murder of the servants and the son demonstrate Israel's rejection of God's prophets and ultimately Jesus.

  • The landowner's destruction of the wicked tenants and the giving of the vineyard to others signifies God's judgment on Israel and the transfer of the kingdom to those who will produce spiritual fruit (the Gentiles).

  • The parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders, revealing their wickedness and the impending consequences of their actions.

  • The religious leaders recognize that Jesus is speaking about them, as they realize the parable's application to their situation.

  • The parable also points to the future, suggesting that God will establish a new covenant with those who will bear fruit.
 
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Exactly. It all leads back to a guy named Scofield.

I know you aren't religious but because this is allegedly based on God giving Jews Israel. I in turn can dig up all the Bible passages necessary to prove God hates Jews and handed Israel over to the Gentiles (Christians)

I don't qualify Evangelicalism as Christianity. It's a fucking cult of brainwashed idiots participating in a Israeli psy-op.

A taste of the Bible that's says Jews aren't worthy of God.


In Matthew 21:33-44, Jesus tells the parable of the wicked tenants, illustrating God's relationship with Israel and the consequences of rejecting His messengers, including His Son. The parable depicts a landowner who rents out his vineyard to tenants who mistreat and kill the servants sent to collect the harvest, ultimately murdering the landowner's son. This parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders who were rejecting Jesus, highlighting their failure to produce spiritual fruit and their impending judgment.

Here's a breakdown of the parable's key elements and their meanings:
  • The Landowner:
    Represents God.

  • The Vineyard:
    Represents God's people, particularly Israel and the covenant relationship with them.

  • The Tenants:
    Represent the religious leaders of Israel, including the priests, scribes, and Pharisees.

  • The Servants:
    Represent the prophets sent by God throughout history to call Israel to repentance.

  • The Son:
    Represents Jesus, God's ultimate messenger, who is ultimately rejected and killed by the tenants.
Interpretation:
  • The parable highlights God's generosity in entrusting Israel with His blessings and responsibilities.

  • The tenants' mistreatment and murder of the servants and the son demonstrate Israel's rejection of God's prophets and ultimately Jesus.

  • The landowner's destruction of the wicked tenants and the giving of the vineyard to others signifies God's judgment on Israel and the transfer of the kingdom to those who will produce spiritual fruit (the Gentiles).

  • The parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders, revealing their wickedness and the impending consequences of their actions.

  • The religious leaders recognize that Jesus is speaking about them, as they realize the parable's application to their situation.

  • The parable also points to the future, suggesting that God will establish a new covenant with those who will bear fruit.
More of the same. Keep in mind, the New Testament was written by former Jews.

Matthew 8:10-13
New International Version
10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places (place of the Jews) at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom (Jews) will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Well we'll well, how about that? Sounds 71AD to me.
 

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More of the same. Keep in mind, the New Testament was written by former Jews.

Matthew 8:10-13
New International Version
10 When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places (place of the Jews) at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But the subjects of the kingdom (Jews) will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Well we'll well, how about that? Sounds 71AD to me.
Matthew 8:10-13 describes Jesus marveling at the faith of a Roman centurion and using it as an example to contrast the faith of some Israelites. The passage highlights the centurion's remarkable faith, emphasizing his belief that Jesus could heal his servant with a mere word, even without being physically present. Jesus then contrasts this with the lack of faith He encountered among some in Israel, stating that many Gentiles would enter the Kingdom of Heaven before some of the Jewish people.

Here's a breakdown of the key elements:
  • The Centurion's Faith:
    The centurion, a Gentile, recognized Jesus' authority and believed in his power to heal with a word. This faith was not based on proximity or physical touch, but on a deep trust in Jesus's divine power.

  • Jesus's Marvel:
    Jesus is astonished by the centurion's faith, stating that He had not found such great faith even among the Israelites.

  • Contrast with Israelites:
    Jesus uses the centurion's faith as a lesson, implying that some Israelites, despite their heritage, lacked the faith necessary to enter the Kingdom.

  • Gentiles in the Kingdom:
    The passage concludes with Jesus stating that many Gentiles will join the patriarchs in the Kingdom of Heaven, while some of the "sons of the kingdom" (referring to the Jewish people) may be excluded due to their lack of faith.
This passage is significant because it demonstrates Jesus's focus on faith as the primary criterion for entering the Kingdom of God, rather than ethnic or national background. It also foreshadows the inclusion of Gentiles in God's plan of salvation.
 

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Romans 2:26-29 emphasizes that true belonging to God's people and true righteousness come from an inward transformation, not just outward religious practices. A person who outwardly appears uncircumcised but keeps the law will be judged by those with the written law and circumcision who break it. True "Jews" and true "circumcision" are of the heart, by the Spirit, not just a matter of the flesh and the letter of the law.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Verses 26-27:
    Paul argues that if an uncircumcised person keeps the law, their uncircumcision will be considered as circumcision. Conversely, those who are physically circumcised but break the law will be condemned by those who are not circumcised but keep the law.

  • Verse 28:
    Paul clarifies that being a Jew is not just about outward appearance or physical circumcision.

  • Verse 29:
    True Jewishness and true circumcision are internal and spiritual, involving a transformed heart through the Holy Spirit. This inner transformation is what truly pleases God.
 

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This one says says to be a Jew you have practise the faith. As stated time and time again "there is no such thing as a secular or casual Jew."

Romans 2:26-29 emphasizes that true belonging to God's people and true righteousness come from an inward transformation, not just outward religious practices. A person who outwardly appears uncircumcised but keeps the law will be judged by those with the written law and circumcision who break it. True "Jews" and true "circumcision" are of the heart, by the Spirit, not just a matter of the flesh and the letter of the law.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Verses 26-27:
    Paul argues that if an uncircumcised person keeps the law, their uncircumcision will be considered as circumcision. Conversely, those who are physically circumcised but break the law will be condemned by those who are not circumcised but keep the law.

  • Verse 28:
    Paul clarifies that being a Jew is not just about outward appearance or physical circumcision.

  • Verse 29:
    True Jewishness and true circumcision are internal and spiritual, involving a transformed heart through the Holy Spirit. This inner transformation is what truly pleases God.
 

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Here goes the bloodline bullshit...

Galatians 4:21-31 uses the story of Abraham's two sons, Ishmael (born of Hagar, the slave woman) and Isaac (born of Sarah, the free woman), as an allegory for the two covenants: the old covenant of the Law, which leads to bondage, and the new covenant of grace, which brings freedom. Paul argues that those who seek justification through the Law are like Ishmael, while those who believe in Christ are like Isaac, children of promise and heirs of freedom.

Here's a breakdown of the passage:
  • Verses 21-23:
    Paul challenges those who want to be under the Law, reminding them of Abraham's two sons, one born of a slave and the other of a free woman. He emphasizes that Ishmael was born according to the flesh, while Isaac was born through promise.

  • Verses 24-26:
    Paul explains that these two women, Hagar and Sarah, represent two covenants: the covenant from Mount Sinai (Law) which leads to bondage (Hagar/Jerusalem under the Law) and the covenant of grace (Sarah/Jerusalem above) which brings freedom (Jerusalem above).

  • Verses 27-28:
    Paul uses a quote from Isaiah 54:1 about the barren woman having more children than the one with a husband to illustrate that believers in Christ are the "children of promise" like Isaac, not the "children of the flesh" like Ishmael.

  • Verses 29-31:
    Paul points out that just as Ishmael persecuted Isaac, those who rely on the Law persecute those who live by faith. He concludes that believers are not children of the slave woman (Law), but of the free woman (grace), according to a Bible commentary.
 

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Exactly. It all leads back to a guy named Scofield.

I know you aren't religious but because this is allegedly based on God giving Jews Israel. I in turn can dig up all the Bible passages necessary to prove God hates Jews and handed Israel over to the Gentiles (Christians)

I don't qualify Evangelicalism as Christianity. It's a fucking cult of brainwashed idiots participating in a Israeli psy-op.

A taste of the Bible that's says Jews aren't worthy of God.


In Matthew 21:33-44, Jesus tells the parable of the wicked tenants, illustrating God's relationship with Israel and the consequences of rejecting His messengers, including His Son. The parable depicts a landowner who rents out his vineyard to tenants who mistreat and kill the servants sent to collect the harvest, ultimately murdering the landowner's son. This parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders who were rejecting Jesus, highlighting their failure to produce spiritual fruit and their impending judgment.

Here's a breakdown of the parable's key elements and their meanings:
  • The Landowner:
    Represents God.

  • The Vineyard:
    Represents God's people, particularly Israel and the covenant relationship with them.

  • The Tenants:
    Represent the religious leaders of Israel, including the priests, scribes, and Pharisees.

  • The Servants:
    Represent the prophets sent by God throughout history to call Israel to repentance.

  • The Son:
    Represents Jesus, God's ultimate messenger, who is ultimately rejected and killed by the tenants.
Interpretation:
  • The parable highlights God's generosity in entrusting Israel with His blessings and responsibilities.

  • The tenants' mistreatment and murder of the servants and the son demonstrate Israel's rejection of God's prophets and ultimately Jesus.

  • The landowner's destruction of the wicked tenants and the giving of the vineyard to others signifies God's judgment on Israel and the transfer of the kingdom to those who will produce spiritual fruit (the Gentiles).

  • The parable serves as a warning to the religious leaders, revealing their wickedness and the impending consequences of their actions.

  • The religious leaders recognize that Jesus is speaking about them, as they realize the parable's application to their situation.

  • The parable also points to the future, suggesting that God will establish a new covenant with those who will bear fruit.

Oh I may not be Christian but that doesn't mean I haven't seen stuff about the extreme side of it.

One documentary I saw that highlighted the Christian support of Israel if only as the source of Jesus' return, I remember the interviewer riding along with and talking to Evangelicals. They were ecstatic about Israel and it's Jewish people being in "The Holy Land".

If only to know the more that came, the closer Jesus was to Return.

That's it, that's the only reason they were happy.

The Jewish people are being used, and the most powerful of them in Government either know and don't care, or don't realize and are using these morons back (which IMO it's quite a bit of both).
 
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