Hamas attacks Israel

[Ron in Regina]

Netanyahu could have hired Prigozhun and Wagner instead of ISIS keeping it Jewishish.

50 Influential Jews: Yevgeny Prigozhin - Postscript | The Jerusalem Post

Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin formed a restaurant empire and a troll farm to interfere in the 2016 US elections. But his actions as head of the Wagner Group cemented his legacy.

www.jpost.com

Ahhhh…I see your twist of logic that you yourself seem to see. Unfortunately, Wagner are the Russian/Iranian (& their proxies) butt-buddies no matter how much you wish it otherwise in this conflict.

Thus the reason Israel & Ukraine where Allied in Syria recently fighting agains Bashir & Wagner, etc…anyway…

What are you going on about?

How does the Hamas run Gaza Health Authority record this? Just curious…

…seeing as they don’t/won’t differentiate between Civilians & Combatants.

Hamas knows who Bibi's ISIS jackasses are. They wouldn't have made it this far without an intelligence crew.

It's the IDF who shoots civilians.

Ah, ok. So everyone in Gaza is recorded as a civilian casualty of Israel, except these four, sorry…eight guys then, ‘cuz Bibi, ‘cuz Hamas doesn’t shoot civilians. Got it.

What are you going on about?

Ok….the bouncing ball. Either Hamas (through its Gaza Health Authority) either records all deaths (combatants, civilians, cancer patients, heart attacks, etc…) as civilian casualties due to Israel or Hamas (through its Gaza Health Authority) records civilians separately than combatants like these eight like you’re pointing out, right.

It’s an either/or pick a lane scenario as opposed to cherry picking the data as Hamas sees fit.

Either these eight are more civilian woman and children (pick a number that makes you happy) or these eight are ISIS combatants….& if they are, then the 20,000 or whatever Hamas combatants shouldn’t be hiding in the total for the civilian population like they’ve been doing for the last 20 months or so, right?

…& if this is true, these these ISIS combatants should just get blended in just like the Islamic Jihad & Muslim Brotherhood and so on and so forth as just Palestinian to not be hypocritical? Thats what I was going on about in that question.

 

[petros]

Ahhhh…I see your twist of logic that you yourself seem to see. Unfortunately, Wagner are the Russian/Iranian (& their proxies) butt-buddies no matter how much you wish it otherwise in this conflict.

Thus the reason Israel & Ukraine where Allied in Syria recently fighting agains Bashir & Wagner, etc…anyway…





Ok….the bouncing ball. Either Hamas (through its Gaza Health Authority) either records all deaths (combatants, civilians, cancer patients, heart attacks, etc…) as civilian casualties due to Israel or Hamas (through its Gaza Health Authority) records civilians separately than combatants like these eight like you’re pointing out, right.

It’s an either/or pick a lane scenario as opposed to cherry picking the data as Hamas sees fit.

Either these eight are more civilian woman and children (pick a number that makes you happy) or these eight are ISIS combatants….& if they are, then the 20,000 or whatever Hamas combatants shouldn’t be hiding in the total for the civilian population like they’ve been doing for the last 20 months or so, right?
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…& if this is true, these these ISIS combatants should just get blended in just like the Islamic Jihad & Muslim Brotherhood and so on and so forth as just Palestinian to not be hypocritical? Thats what I was going on about in that question.

You want a precise death count of the ethnic cleansing? You'll have to wait until the rubble is cleared.

 

[Ron in Regina]

You want a precise death count of the ethnic cleansing? You'll have to wait until the rubble is cleared.

I didn’t say a precise count, they’re just separating the combatants from the civilians, or not. Either or. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

 

[petros]

I didn’t say a precise count, we’re just separating the combatants from the civilians, or not. Either or. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?

Dead is dead. Hypocrisy went out the window over a year ago. You're a rare breed these days. Even the nut job born yesterday Christians are calling foul. Even the Kenneth Copeland types.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Dead is dead. Hypocrisy went out the window over a year ago. You're a rare breed these days. Even the nut job born yesterday Christians are calling foul. Even the Kenneth Copeland types.

Hmmm….that is weird, isn’t it.

 

[petros]

Hmmm….that is weird, isn’t it.

Genocide will do that.

 

[petros]

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[petros]

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[Ron in Regina]

Genocide will do that.

Like what’s actually happening with the Kurds, by Iran & Iraq & Turkey & those that side with them against the Kurds? That sorta thing? Anyway, this thread is about Hamas & Israel.

I believe the interviewer won’t let her finish a sentence. Interesting that alone…

All she did was lie. The cat is out of the bag, nobody believes their shit any longer.

How can she just lie, if she’s not allowed to actually say anything?

With 47% of Israeli in favour of genocide and Baelzebub Smotrich openly saying it, Zionist Israel is done. There's no coming back no matter how many pockets APAC stuff.

Is the position illegitimate? Surely "clearing out" the Gaza strip wouldn't be a death-blow to Islam. What is the balance between Israeli (or Jewish) security and Muslim rights?

Let us not dick around with whether "Israeli" and "Zionist" may or may not be the same thing. It's really time to put up or shut up.

(YouTube & Who Is Shooting Unarmed Palestinians at Gaza Aid Sites?)

 

[petros]

Like what’s actually happening with the Kurds, by Iran & Iraq & Turkey & those that side with them against the Kurds? That sorta thing? Anyway, this thread is about Hamas & Israel.


How can she just lie, if she’s not allowed to actually say anything?

(YouTube & Who Is Shooting Unarmed Palestinians at Gaza Aid Sites?)

Did you not hear Smotrich and the plan for Gaza?

I heard her clear as a bell. "We don't target civilians". Even you know that is 100% bullshit.

Israeli soldiers have deliberately shot at unarmed Palestinians seeking aid in Gaza after being “ordered” to do so by their commanders, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports.

Israel ordered an investigation into possible war crimes over the allegations by some soldiers that it revealed on Friday, Haaretz said.

Ordered to shoot Ron.... ordered to shoot civilians.

The difference between Haaretz and Christian Bible News?

You can't call a Jewish run media outlet Anti-semetic when they publish the truth.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Honestly, I don’t know who Smotrich even is, but that’s a Google search for the weekend

 

[petros]

Honestly, I don’t know who Smotrich even is, but that’s a Google search for the weekend

He is just the Minister of Defence and a member of the far right supremacist party Religious Zionism. Nobody special.

Who are Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir, the Israeli ministers facing sanctions?

Far-right politicians subject to action from UK and others are both crucial to Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition

www.theguardian.com

Bezalel Smotrich.

Smotrich is a messianic settler who was born in the occupied Golan Heights in 1980, now lives in the occupied West Bank and has repeatedly called for Israeli settlers to return to Gaza.

He believes Jews have a divine right to all land that made up biblical Israel. A commitment to expanding the area controlled by Jewish Israelis – both in de facto terms and through legal annexation – runs through his personal and political life.

In 2005, he was arrested by the Shin Bet security services and questioned for weeks about his role in protests over Israel’s plans to withdraw from Gaza, allegedly on suspicion of planning to block roads and damage infrastructure to try to block the withdrawal.

He was released without charges being brought, set up an influential rightwing NGO focused on control of occupied land and won his first parliamentary seat in 2015.

Smotrich is a self-declared “fascist homophobe” who backed segregated maternity wards separating Jewish and Arab mothers and called for government reprisal attacks on Palestinians. He once organised an anti-gay “Beast Parade” protest against Gay Pride.

 

[petros]

Itamar Ben-Gvir, security minister
Ben-Gvir embraced extremism so young that Israel’s domestic security forces barred him from serving in the country’s army as a teenager.

Born in 1976 to a family of Iraqi heritage in a small town outside Jerusalem, he became a far-right activist while still at school, and continued while studying law.

By his early 30s he had been convicted of incitement to racism and support for a terrorist organisation. Those convictions did not stop him from becoming a lawyer, and he specialised in representing Jewish Israelis charged with terrorism-related offences.

For years his living room was decorated with a portrait of the mass murderer Baruch Goldstein, who gunned down 29 Palestinians in a Hebron mosque in 1994. Goldstein, like Ben-Gvir, was an admirer of the extremist rabbi Meir Kahane.

Having spent most of his life as a figure on Israel’s political fringe, Ben-Gvir was given the security portfolio when he joined Netanyahu’s government. He now controls the police forces that once arrested him, and the jails where he was once held.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Itamar Ben-Gvir, security minister
Ben-Gvir embraced extremism so young that Israel’s domestic security forces barred him from serving in the country’s army as a teenager.

Born in 1976 to a family of Iraqi heritage in a small town outside Jerusalem, he became a far-right activist while still at school, and continued while studying law.

By his early 30s he had been convicted of incitement to racism and support for a terrorist organisation. Those convictions did not stop him from becoming a lawyer, and he specialised in representing Jewish Israelis charged with terrorism-related offences.

For years his living room was decorated with a portrait of the mass murderer Baruch Goldstein, who gunned down 29 Palestinians in a Hebron mosque in 1994. Goldstein, like Ben-Gvir, was an admirer of the extremist rabbi Meir Kahane.

Having spent most of his life as a figure on Israel’s political fringe, Ben-Gvir was given the security portfolio when he joined Netanyahu’s government. He now controls the police forces that once arrested him, and the jails where he was once held.

Yer just jealous.

 

[petros]

Yer just jealous.

Doesn't everyone wish they were a terrorist?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

We prefer the term "freedom fighter."

 

[Ron in Regina]

Doesn't everyone wish they were a terrorist?

We prefer the term "freedom fighter."

Hamas has “submitted a positive response to the mediators, and the movement is fully prepared to immediately enter into a round of negotiations regarding the mechanism for implementing this framework,” the group said in a statement.

Bishara Bahbah, a Palestinian-American interlocutor who has been in direct discussions with Hamas, praised the group’s response on Facebook, saying, “We are now much closer to ending this cursed war” & said Hamas had introduced “amendments it deemed necessary.”

“In my view as a Palestinian-American interlocutor named Bishara Bahbah, these amendments will not prevent reaching a ceasefire agreement within the coming week, God willing,” etc…

Hamas submits ‘positive response’ to ceasefire proposal in major step toward a deal — CNN

Hamas announced on Friday that it had “submitted a positive response” to a proposal for a 60-day ceasefire in Gaza, opening the path toward a deal to halt the conflict after months of failed efforts.

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Of the 50 Israeli holocaustages remaining in Gaza, the proposal calls for the release of 10 living hostages and 18 not-so-living during the ceasefire.

On the first day of the ceasefire, Hamas would release eight living hostages in exchange for an “unspecified” number (so…probably more than eight?) of Palestinian prisoners and detainees. What is the current exchange rate now anyway? 50:1? 100:1? How little is a Palestinian prisoners and/or detainee worth in relation to an Israeli (living or not so much alive) to Hamas?

Following the release, Israel would withdraw from parts of northern Gaza, and the two sides would begin negotiations toward a permanent ceasefire, etc…

The release of the holocaustages is to take place without any Hamas ceremonies or fanfare. The remaining holocaustages (or corpses) would be released on four more dates specific in the proposal.

 

[petros]

Hamas has “submitted a positive response to the mediators, and the movement is fully prepared to immediately enter into a round of negotiations regarding the mechanism for implementing this framework,” the group said in a statement.

Bishara Bahbah, a Palestinian-American interlocutor who has been in direct discussions with Hamas, praised the group’s response on Facebook, saying, “We are now much closer to ending this cursed war” & said Hamas had introduced “amendments it deemed necessary.”

“In my view as a Palestinian-American interlocutor named Bishara Bahbah, these amendments will not prevent reaching a ceasefire agreement within the coming week, God willing,” etc…

Hamas submits ‘positive response’ to ceasefire proposal in major step toward a deal — CNN

Hamas announced on Friday that it had “submitted a positive response” to a proposal for a 60-day ceasefire in Gaza, opening the path toward a deal to halt the conflict after months of failed efforts.

apple.news

Of the 50 Israeli holocaustages remaining in Gaza, the proposal calls for the release of 10 living hostages and 18 not-so-living during the ceasefire.

On the first day of the ceasefire, Hamas would release eight living hostages in exchange for an “unspecified” number (so…probably more than eight?) of Palestinian prisoners and detainees. What is the current exchange rate now anyway? 50:1? 100:1? How little is a Palestinian prisoners and/or detainee worth in relation to an Israeli (living or not so much alive) to Hamas?

Following the release, Israel would withdraw from parts of northern Gaza, and the two sides would begin negotiations toward a permanent ceasefire, etc…

The release of the holocaustages is to take place without any Hamas ceremonies or fanfare. The remaining holocaustages (or corpses) would be released on four more dates specific in the proposal.

5000 Palestinians were taken hostage, imprisoned and tortured since Oct 8 23.

Inside Israel’s ‘torture’ jails where Palestinians tell of physical and mental abuse

A special investigation by chief international correspondent Bel Trew and Rateb al-Qaissy reveals allegations of brutal treatment of Palestinians in Israeli facilities including rape, torture, medical neglect and death. Israel rejects all accusations of wrongdoing

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Ron in Regina]

5000 Palestinians were taken hostage, imprisoned and tortured since Oct 8 23.

Inside Israel’s ‘torture’ jails where Palestinians tell of physical and mental abuse

A special investigation by chief international correspondent Bel Trew and Rateb al-Qaissy reveals allegations of brutal treatment of Palestinians in Israeli facilities including rape, torture, medical neglect and death. Israel rejects all accusations of wrongdoing

www.independent.co.uk

So what’s the current exchange rate? The terms of the new proposal, put together by U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff along with mediators from Egypt and Qatar, also call for, among other things, the exchange of 10 living hostages for a “larger” (because that’s not vague) number of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, the officials said.

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The progress comes as Hamas faces growing pressure in Gaza from ordinary Palestinians who have had enough of the hunger and ever-present threat of airstrikes from Israeli forces. Hamas sparked the war by leading Oct. 7, 2023, attacks on Israel. Around 1,200 people were killed and about 250 Holocaustages abducted, etc…

Hamas Accepts Gaza Cease-Fire Proposal With American Assurances Over Talks to End War — The Wall Street Journal

The militant group says it’s ready to immediately enter negotiations on the mechanism for implementing the deal

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The militant group now finds itself increasingly isolated, with its Lebanese ally Hezbollah and patron Iran battered by Israeli attacks. Most of Hamas’s military leaders in Gaza have been killed by Israeli forces. The group is now on its third leader in eight months, but it leaves room for rapid promotions.

This most recent proposal calls for Hamas to release 10 of the around 20 hostages Israel believes are still alive, along with the bodies of some of the roughly 30 deceased holocaustages.

Hamas would release eight living hostages on the first day of the deal and two on Day 50, the proposal says, in exchange for….10? 50? 500? 5000?

 

[petros]

So what’s the current exchange rate? The terms of the new proposal, put together by U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff along with mediators from Egypt and Qatar, also call for, among other things, the exchange of 10 living hostages for a “larger” (because that’s not vague) number of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, the officials said.

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The progress comes as Hamas faces growing pressure in Gaza from ordinary Palestinians who have had enough of the hunger and ever-present threat of airstrikes from Israeli forces. Hamas sparked the war by leading Oct. 7, 2023, attacks on Israel. Around 1,200 people were killed and about 250 Holocaustages abducted, etc…

Hamas Accepts Gaza Cease-Fire Proposal With American Assurances Over Talks to End War — The Wall Street Journal

The militant group says it’s ready to immediately enter negotiations on the mechanism for implementing the deal

apple.news

The militant group now finds itself increasingly isolated, with its Lebanese ally Hezbollah and patron Iran battered by Israeli attacks. Most of Hamas’s military leaders in Gaza have been killed by Israeli forces. The group is now on its third leader in eight months, but it leaves room for rapid promotions.

This most recent proposal calls for Hamas to release 10 of the around 20 hostages Israel believes are still alive, along with the bodies of some of the roughly 30 deceased holocaustages.

Hamas would release eight living hostages on the first day of the deal and two on Day 50, the proposal says, in exchange for….10? 50? 500? 5000?

If Israeli Gov't gave a shit about holocaustages they'd be free long ago.

They've had 1 year, 8 months, 3 weeks and 6 days to find the holocaustages under the rubble.

How many holocaustages did they find in Beirut, Homs, Alleppo, Damascus or Tehran? Will they go searching in Kashmir? Maybe Istanbul? Baghdad? Dubai?

The longer the holocaustages remain holocaustages the more people Israel can kill and the more land it can grab.

You really really really need to look into the nutjobs that keep Netanyahu in power and out of jail.

I hope Miriam Adelson got her $100M out of Trump and the US steps back from supporting the openly racist, fascist imperial regime.

It blew me away you've never actually looked into Smotrich, Ben-Givr and the Jew Klux Klan they run with. It's fucking real. They are fanatical. They pose with maps of "Greater Israel" showing their version of From the River to the Sea. They want huge chunks of Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Gaza and Palestine.

But why stop there? Why not Babylon and Persia where they were exiled to not just once but twice.

The Rabbinic Judaism that exists today was codified after Christianity came into being and it came out of Persia and Babylon. That is the home of the Jews we know today. They want that too.