Maybe the Palestinians will get to govern themselves, or as close as they’ve had, but time will tell, if Hamas surrenders its hold on Gaza.
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It's was Netanyahu who backed and funded Hamas over PLO. PA over both is a good start.Maybe the Palestinians will get to govern themselves, or as close as they’ve had, but time will tell, if Hamas surrenders its hold on Gaza.
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You mean where it explains why Israel is currently stopping supplies while setting up a second borderline in Gaza parallel to the Egyptian border, etc…& when they (supply/aid/fuel) resume, it’ll be not via Hamas/UN/UNRWA, but via the IDF, with the idea being to intensify pressure on Hamas until they release all remaining Israeli hostages, disarm, and leave Gaza?
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So with control of dispensing & dispersal of aid supplies of fuel, food, medicine, etc…soon to be in IDF controlled areas of Gaza by the IDF itself, it’ll cut Hamas (& Friends) out of that market…while also simultaneously completely interrupting access to the tunnel system from Egypt under that border into Gaza (isolating that Rafah anthill from the rest of Hamas). I suppose other than that, it has little to nothing to do with the UN.This will return the aid/fuel/food/medicine to direct aid to the Palestinians in Gaza removing militants from initially confiscating them for resale to merchants for resale to the population as a whole.
Anyway, that’s what I picked up watching that eight & 1/2 minute video. Someone else watching the same video might pick up something else.
With that in mind above, Hamas wants Israel’s full withdrawal from Gaza, & Israel wants Hamas’s full withdrawal from Gaza, so they have that in common.
Sounds like some Palestinians are also seeing the above (open protests against Hamas in Gaza, etc…), perhaps Hamas without an income might feel less welcome in Gaza or welcomed by the Palestinians…
Anti-Hamas protests on rise in Gaza as group's iron grip slips — BBC News
Gazan civilians are losing their fear of Hamas, openly criticising the group on the streets and online.
Food is coming in through a port in Israel on the north end of Gaza. Where did you get the silly idea it was coming from Egypt?You mean where it explains why Israel is currently stopping supplies while setting up a second borderline in Gaza parallel to the Egyptian border, etc…& when they (supply/aid/fuel) resume, it’ll be not via Hamas/UN/UNRWA, but via the IDF, with the idea being to intensify pressure on Hamas until they release all remaining Israeli hostages, disarm, and leave Gaza?
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View attachment 28936So with control of dispensing & dispersal of aid supplies of fuel, food, medicine, etc…soon to be in IDF controlled areas of Gaza by the IDF itself, it’ll cut Hamas (& Friends) out of that market…while also simultaneously completely interrupting access to the tunnel system from Egypt under that border into Gaza (isolating that Rafah anthill from the rest of Hamas). I suppose other than that, it has little to nothing to do with the UN.
This will return the aid/fuel/food/medicine to direct aid to the Palestinians in Gaza removing militants from initially confiscating them for resale to merchants for resale to the population as a whole.
View attachment 28937Anyway, that’s what I picked up watching that eight & 1/2 minute video. Someone else watching the same video might pick up something else.
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With that in mind above, Hamas wants Israel’s full withdrawal from Gaza, & Israel wants Hamas’s full withdrawal from Gaza, so they have that in common.
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Sounds like some Palestinians are also seeing the above (open protests against Hamas in Gaza, etc…), perhaps Hamas without an income might feel less welcome in Gaza or welcomed by the Palestinians…
Anti-Hamas protests on rise in Gaza as group's iron grip slips — BBC News
Gazan civilians are losing their fear of Hamas, openly criticising the group on the streets and online.apple.news
Maybe that’s your twist, not mine. I thought your point was food wasn’t entering Gaza at all, & mine was that it’s part of a bigger picture.
Anyway, Egypt/Gaza border. Apparently there’s these tunnels under it, that we’ve been talking about for years here now. Part of that bigger picture is removing those tunnels from the equation of resupplying Hamas.
Many of these tunnels have been discovered, and there’s probably many that haven’t been. The IDF is taking a couple of steps northwards in Gaza & setting up a second line (call it a corridor), beyond where they think these tunnels reach at this point. That’s ’part’ of the current strategy.
Then, food/fuel/medicine/etc…when it resumes, it’s going to be to areas controlled by the IDF, & it will be distributed by the….IDF….removing Hamas from directly skimming off the aid before it reaches the general population, or at least that’s what I understood after watching that eight & 1/2 minute video in #4922.
The Port of Ashod is where aid enters Israel and then goes through the Erez crossing into Gaza. IDF has no control over the port of Ashod because of tunnels?
Gaza aid crisis deepens as border closure stretches into 50th day
22 April 2025 Peace and Security
The humanitarian crisis in Gaza has reached unprecedented levels, with more than two million people – mostly women and children – trapped, starving and desperate, as no aid has been allowed in for the past 50 days.
The UN relief coordination office, OCHA, said on Tuesday that this marks the longest period without aid or commercial supplies entering the Strip since the conflict began in October 2023.
“Right now, it is probably the worst humanitarian situation ever seen throughout the war in Gaza,” OCHA spokesperson Jens Laerke told journalists at a briefing in Geneva.
Over 2.1 million Gazans are facing acute shortages of food, medicine, fuel, and clean water.
However, humanitarian supplies are stockpiled just across the border, including nearly 3,000 trucks of life-saving aid prepared by the Palestine refugee agency (UNRWA), which Israeli authorities are refusing to allow in.
Deliberate, man-made suffering
“Hunger is spreading and deepening – deliberate and man-made,” UNRWA Commissioner-General Philippe Lazzarini said in a statement.
“Gaza has become a land of desperation…humanitarian aid is being used as a bargaining chip and a weapon of war.”
The agency warned supplies inside Gaza are nearly all gone, with food stocks running dangerously low and only 250 food parcels left.
Flour has run out. Bakeries are shutting down, hospitals are collapsing without fuel or medicine, and essential items have soared in price.
“Two million people – a majority of women and children – are undergoing collective punishment,” Mr. Lazzarini said.
“The siege must be lifted, supplies must flow in, the hostages must be released, the ceasefire must resume.”
Aid effort continues
Despite these conditions, UNRWA continues to operate on the ground, providing water, collecting solid waste, and running vital health services.
Eight health centres and 39 medical points are still providing around 15,000 consultations daily. A blood donation drive to support local hospitals in urgent need of transfusions is also underway.
Gaza aid crisis deepens as border closure stretches into 50th day
The humanitarian crisis in Gaza has reached unprecedented levels, with more than two million people – mostly women and children – trapped, starving and desperate, as no aid has been allowed in for the past 50 days.
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“We used to buy tankered water at an extremely high price, but now it’s hard to even find anyone to bring us water out of fear that soldiers could confiscate the truck,” according to Salem, a 45-year-old father of five.
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ICJ: The International Court of Justice at The Hague began five days of hearings to examine Israel's obligations to "ensure and facilitate" humanitarian assistance "essential to the survival of the Palestinian civilian population" in the occupied territories, as well as the country's relationship with UN aid bodies and third-party countries operating in the West Bank and Gaza.
The hearings, initiated at the request of the UN, will lead to the Court publishing an advisory opinion, following a ban on UNRWA activity in Israel and restrictions on cooperation between Israeli authorities and the UN aid agency. Dozens of countries are expected to present arguments accusing Israel of breaking international law by blocking aid into Gaza.
At the hearing, Palestinian Ambassador to the Netherlands Ammar Hijazi said, "Israel intends the destruction of our people – it wants the erasure of the Palestinian people."
Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar called the hearings part of a "systematic persecution and delegitimization" of Israel, and said the UN is "preventing Israel from obtaining the arms it needs to defend itself."
The hearings, initiated at the request of the UN, will lead to the Court publishing an advisory opinion, following a ban on UNRWA activity in Israel and restrictions on cooperation between Israeli authorities and the UN aid agency. Dozens of countries are expected to present arguments accusing Israel of breaking international law by blocking aid into Gaza.
At the hearing, Palestinian Ambassador to the Netherlands Ammar Hijazi said, "Israel intends the destruction of our people – it wants the erasure of the Palestinian people."
Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar called the hearings part of a "systematic persecution and delegitimization" of Israel, and said the UN is "preventing Israel from obtaining the arms it needs to defend itself."
'Vote Palestine' campaign sees minimal success rate on election night
Only 25 of the 362 candidates who signed the 'Vote Palestine' platform pledge were elected on Monday
Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Apr 30, 2025 • Last updated 15 hours ago • 2 minute read
OTTAWA — From the river to the see-you-later.
Efforts to rally anti-Israel candidates into a pro-Palestine voting block failed miserably on Monday, after only 25 of the 362 candidates who signed the “Vote Palestine” platform pledge were elected.
That represents a 93% failure rate.
Candidates who signed the pledge agreed with a number of controversial platform points, including a two-way arms embargo on Israel, ending Canadian support for Israeli settlements, and recognition of the state of Palestine.
Candidates also must endorse UNRWA as a legitimate humanitarian presence in the area — an organization with long-standing links to Palestinian terror organizations like Hamas.
Last year, Canada was one of 16 nations who followed suit with the United States in pausing their UNRWA funding after these links were made public.
The previous Trudeau government resumed funding just months later, in time to fulfill a $25-million installment of that year’s $100-million pledge to UNRWA.
Of the 362 candidates who signed the pledge, 216 were members of the NDP, 116 were from the Green Party, 28 were Liberals, and two ran for the Bloc Quebecois.
Only six NDP signatories won a seat, while 18 were Liberal.
The only Green party signatory to win a seat was party leader Elizabeth May — Jonathan Pedneault, who also signed the pledge, failed to win a seat on Monday and has resigned as Green party co-leader.
A number of prominent anti-Israel MPs were voted out of office on Monday, including Niki Ashton, Blake Desjarlais, Matthew Green and Joel Harden.
Other incumbent signatories who lost their seat include former NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, Laurel Collins (NDP, Victoria,) Peter Julien (NDP, New Westminster-Burnaby-Maillardville,) Alistair MacGregor (NDP, Cowichan-Malahat-Langford,) Leila Dance (NDP, Elmwood-Transcona,) Brian Masse (NDP, Windsor West,) Lindsay Mathyssen (NDP, London-Fanshawe,) Mike Morrice (Green, Kitchener Centre,) and Bonita Zarrillo (NDP, Port Moody-Coquitlam).
Mike Fegelman, executive director of HonestReporting Canada, attributed voters’ frustration over continued anti-Israel extremism that’s resulted in snarled traffic and persistent — and sometimes violent — protests at Jewish schools, communities and places of worship.
“The complete failure of the ‘Vote Palestine’ candidates to get elected is a microcosm of their larger movement: Indisputably loud, but ultimately representing a small and radical fringe of Canadian society,” Fegelman told the Toronto Sun.
“Canadians are clearly sick and tired of the incessant extremism coming from the pro-Palestinian movement, and overwhelmingly turfed their candidates in Monday’s federal election.”
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Only 25 of the 362 candidates who signed the 'Vote Palestine' platform pledge were elected on Monday
Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Apr 30, 2025 • Last updated 15 hours ago • 2 minute read
OTTAWA — From the river to the see-you-later.
Efforts to rally anti-Israel candidates into a pro-Palestine voting block failed miserably on Monday, after only 25 of the 362 candidates who signed the “Vote Palestine” platform pledge were elected.
That represents a 93% failure rate.
Candidates who signed the pledge agreed with a number of controversial platform points, including a two-way arms embargo on Israel, ending Canadian support for Israeli settlements, and recognition of the state of Palestine.
Candidates also must endorse UNRWA as a legitimate humanitarian presence in the area — an organization with long-standing links to Palestinian terror organizations like Hamas.
Last year, Canada was one of 16 nations who followed suit with the United States in pausing their UNRWA funding after these links were made public.
The previous Trudeau government resumed funding just months later, in time to fulfill a $25-million installment of that year’s $100-million pledge to UNRWA.
Of the 362 candidates who signed the pledge, 216 were members of the NDP, 116 were from the Green Party, 28 were Liberals, and two ran for the Bloc Quebecois.
Only six NDP signatories won a seat, while 18 were Liberal.
The only Green party signatory to win a seat was party leader Elizabeth May — Jonathan Pedneault, who also signed the pledge, failed to win a seat on Monday and has resigned as Green party co-leader.
A number of prominent anti-Israel MPs were voted out of office on Monday, including Niki Ashton, Blake Desjarlais, Matthew Green and Joel Harden.
Other incumbent signatories who lost their seat include former NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, Laurel Collins (NDP, Victoria,) Peter Julien (NDP, New Westminster-Burnaby-Maillardville,) Alistair MacGregor (NDP, Cowichan-Malahat-Langford,) Leila Dance (NDP, Elmwood-Transcona,) Brian Masse (NDP, Windsor West,) Lindsay Mathyssen (NDP, London-Fanshawe,) Mike Morrice (Green, Kitchener Centre,) and Bonita Zarrillo (NDP, Port Moody-Coquitlam).
Mike Fegelman, executive director of HonestReporting Canada, attributed voters’ frustration over continued anti-Israel extremism that’s resulted in snarled traffic and persistent — and sometimes violent — protests at Jewish schools, communities and places of worship.
“The complete failure of the ‘Vote Palestine’ candidates to get elected is a microcosm of their larger movement: Indisputably loud, but ultimately representing a small and radical fringe of Canadian society,” Fegelman told the Toronto Sun.
“Canadians are clearly sick and tired of the incessant extremism coming from the pro-Palestinian movement, and overwhelmingly turfed their candidates in Monday’s federal election.”
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'Vote Palestine' campaign sees minimal success rate on election night
Efforts to rally anti-Israel candidates into a pro-Palestine voting block failed miserably on Monday.
Oops, trouble in "Paradise"?
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Oh, and for the "All Gazans support Hamas" crowd - go fuck yourself.
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Any SMART country should be working with those standing up to Hamas, NOW, to ensure that they vanish.
But then when it comes to this insanity, smart doesn't factor into anything but missed opportunities happen a LOT.
Meanwhile, Jews and other people in Israel not being Jews and Pro-Israel.
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Again - go fuck yourself if you think these people are somehow 'terrorist lovers'.
Israel spy chief to step down after row with PM exposes deepening rifts
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Shin Bet head Ronen Bar accused each other of lies or inaccuracies in sworn depositions.
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Oh, and for the "All Gazans support Hamas" crowd - go fuck yourself.
Hamas' iron grip on Gaza is slowly slipping as residents protest
Gazan civilians are losing their fear of Hamas, openly criticising the group on the streets and online.
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Any SMART country should be working with those standing up to Hamas, NOW, to ensure that they vanish.
But then when it comes to this insanity, smart doesn't factor into anything but missed opportunities happen a LOT.
Meanwhile, Jews and other people in Israel not being Jews and Pro-Israel.
Netanyahu under pressure as reservists speak out against Gaza war
Thousands of reservists have joined calls to end the Gaza war and bring the remaining hostages back.
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Again - go fuck yourself if you think these people are somehow 'terrorist lovers'.
First you'd have to get Israel to stop the Zionist terror attacks and leave West Bank to have peace. Until then it ain't gonna happen.
Well again, you show you're totally fucking ignorant to the reality of the situation in the region.
And people like you are WHY it won't stop.
Pretty much.