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The formula most organizations that are involved in making and spending their own money, as opposed to yours, is "When the cost of enforcement equals the cost of loss through corruption, stop enforcing and tolerate anything below that."

Moral? No. But good business.
 
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Ya know something? There's corruption, racism, slaughter, dispossession, theft, and thuggery in every operation.

Far as I'm concerned, the questions are "How much?" and "Is the good the operation is doing worth it?"
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I think if the world went off the corruptions in organizations as the reason to disavow or disband the organization, there'd be no organizations.
 
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Serryah said:
I think if the world went off the corruptions in organizations as the reason to disavow or disband the organization, there'd be no organizations.
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We are not talking about corruption but terrorist financing. I like TB's quote about graft. This would be an example of bad graft.
 
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Yo, Sar'nt-Major!

Do you really think the 2015 election in Gaza would count as "free and fair" by Canadian standards? American standards? German standards? Russian standards? Iranian standards?

OK, maybe those last two. . .
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I wouldn’t brag about American standards .
 
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IdRatherBeSkiing said:
We are not talking about corruption but terrorist financing. I like TB's quote about graft. This would be an example of bad graft.
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I think you're not reading the same reply I did if that's your take.

But sure, okay...


Thinking about it, had Israel not gone overboard in its reaction to Oct7th, had it maybe done the small group infiltration/attack, Special Ops event instead of what it did, and had it done so quickly, and taken only a couple of days - maybe four to five - to finish said operation, and had Israel NOT reacted in the "wipe em all out" manner it did, more would be on Israel's side. Hell, I'd be on it's side for it. But you know, it had to go genocidal...
 
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Serryah said:
I think you're not reading the same reply I did if that's your take.

But sure, okay...


Thinking about it, had Israel not gone overboard in its reaction to Oct7th, had it maybe done the small group infiltration/attack, Special Ops event instead of what it did, and had it done so quickly, and taken only a couple of days - maybe four to five - to finish said operation, and had Israel NOT reacted in the "wipe em all out" manner it did, more would be on Israel's side. Hell, I'd be on it's side for it. But you know, it had to go genocidal...
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Explain Hezbollah.
 
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Serryah said:
I think you're not reading the same reply I did if that's your take.

But sure, okay...


Thinking about it, had Israel not gone overboard in its reaction to Oct7th, had it maybe done the small group infiltration/attack, Special Ops event instead of what it did, and had it done so quickly, and taken only a couple of days - maybe four to five - to finish said operation, and had Israel NOT reacted in the "wipe em all out" manner it did, more would be on Israel's side. Hell, I'd be on it's side for it. But you know, it had to go genocidal...
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My comment was on the UNRA situation where the organization is funding Hamass terrorist activities. Nothing to do with the the Israel/Hamass war aside from the player involved.
 
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Serryah said:
I think if the world went off the corruptions in organizations as the reason to disavow or disband the organization, there'd be no organizations.
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Precisely. The question here is how much UNRWA money was diverted to Ham-ass, and how much was spent on the needs of the people of Gaza.

Well, and of course, how much ended up in numbered accounts in Switzerland and the Caymans.
 
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Serryah said:
I think you're not reading the same reply I did if that's your take.

But sure, okay...


Thinking about it, had Israel not gone overboard in its reaction to Oct7th, had it maybe done the small group infiltration/attack, Special Ops event instead of what it did, and had it done so quickly, and taken only a couple of days - maybe four to five - to finish said operation, and had Israel NOT reacted in the "wipe em all out" manner it did, more would be on Israel's side. Hell, I'd be on it's side for it. But you know, it had to go genocidal...
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Had the Allies in WW2 done the same, many German civilians would’ve been spared, Dresden would look very different, etc…but, here we are. Dresden is rebuilt.
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Serryah said:
Are you really wanting to compare WW2 to the current issues with Israel/Palestine?
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Well, both featured a well-financed attempt to wipe out Jewry on earth.

And comparable or not, the fact is that the U.S. chose a path it knew would lead to tens or hundreds of thousands of avoidable civilian death in Germany (night bombing) because it was safer for their forces.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Well, both featured a well-financed attempt to wipe out Jewry on earth.
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True.

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And comparable or not, the fact is that the U.S. chose a path it knew would lead to tens or hundreds of thousands of avoidable civilian death in Germany (night bombing) because it was safer for their forces.
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Also true.

Can't deny any of that.

So who is Hamas and who is Israel in that comparison? We could say that Hamas would be Nazi Germany, but considering things Israel has done, Israel could be in that slot too (which is one of my biggest issues with them, tbh).
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
…And comparable or not, the fact is that the U.S. chose a path it knew would lead to tens or hundreds of thousands of avoidable civilian death in Germany (night bombing) because it was safer for their forces.
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Yes re point#2. That’s where I was going..
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So who is Hamas and who is Israel in that comparison? We could say that Hamas would be Nazi Germany, but considering things Israel has done, Israel could be in that slot too (which is one of my biggest issues with them, tbh).
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Who cares….who were the German Citizens in WW2 in relation to Palestinians now, as that’s the reference I was trying to make.

Not all German Citizens where German soldiers or contributing to the German war machine or whatever….but…here we are.
 
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