Hamas attacks Israel

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If you have the balls...
My balls are large, but disconnected for the last three decades. I still consider that in the top five smartest things I’ve ever done.😉

I’m just out having a quick smoke and mental break, and will have to come back to videos or whatever at a later point this evening. Was the attempting to answer the exact questions you asked without you being specific earlier. Will circle back when time permits later in the day.
 
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Still looking. Enjoy a sampler.
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If you have the balls...

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Well, that was enlightening.
Trippy, they’re obviously so far over the top that it’s parody…& yet the people that they’re talking to aren’t laughing & are signing up. That’s eye-opening.
Try Googling "Hamas blows up school".
Did that yesterday, but it wasn’t what you wanted. Found a couple of instances of Hamas blowing up schools, in Gaza.
None on Israel?

Aren't Jewish children part of all Jews must die?

If you're intent is to kill ALL isn it far more practical to kill the women and children first?
Is there anywhere that we see the killing of women and children as part of an operation with "precision strikes"?

Does Israsl have a right to defend itself against children?
Hamas, as an organization is operating in civilian areas, densely populated civilian areas, in hospitals, under hospitals, in schools, under schools with human shields. They're doing so intentionally both to try to protect their fighters, but also to ensure maximum PR information war damage on the Israelis when they target Hamas so that they have to be responsible for killing civilians.
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It’s very easy to say that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that means they should be destroyed and Netanyahu is a bad leader and that means he should be voted out. But there's no equivalence between these two leaders. But saying there's no equivalence doesn't mean that one is good and the other's bad.

Here we are talking about different shades of illegal activity and we're also talking about different shades of behavior that is causing immense amounts of responsibility for human suffering. Nobody is innocent in this conflict.

If it’s really the job of the UN & Israel to protect Gaza civilians, then Israel needs to up its game and become even more selective in its targeting of Hamas & other Iranian proxies while defending itself, & Palestinians.
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Lebanon's Hezbollah was still handing its members (so not civilians & children) new Gold Apollo branded pagers hours before thousands blew up this week, two security sources said, indicating the group was confident the devices were safe despite an ongoing sweep of electronic kit to identify threats. On Wednesday, hundreds of Hezbollah (not civilian or childrens) walkie-talkies exploded.

Hezbollah examined the pagers after they were delivered to Lebanon, starting in 2022, including by travelling through airports with them to ensure they would not trigger alarms, two additional sources told Reuters. The sources did not specify the name of the airports where they conducted the tests.
Will Israel be persecuted for becoming even more targeted in its retaliation to end terrorist attacks against itself while trying to minimize civilian casualties? Probably.
 

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Israel says..... it found _____. Did you see it?

Israel says..... We don't target _____ but do.

Israels says..... We aren't trying to escalate but....Holocaust.
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Looks like you'll need to download Telegram. It is worth it. If Elon didn't by Twitter to protect X, we'd all be on Telegram. It's the only other uncensored platform and better yet, it's encrypted.

Anyhoo this is what a bullet to a child's forehead looks like.

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Guess what?

That was a mellow screenshot.

Want to see worse?

There are thousands of dead kids. By the looks of things Palestinians are compiling photos and videos of almost every dead kid. Bibi and the Jew Klux Klan are forever staining Israel as savages.
 
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Israel says..... it found _____. Did you see it?

Israel says..... We don't target _____ but do.

Israels says..... We aren't trying to escalate but....Holocaust.
This is pretty vague again. Is this like hangman where you at least give clues to how many letters are in each word? Wheel of Fortune style?

“I’d like to solve the puzzle, Alex! it’s GOATS.”

Israel says..... it found GOATS. Did you see it?

Israel says..... We don't target GOATS but do.
 

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It’s very easy to say that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that means they should be destroyed and Netanyahu is a bad leader and that means he should be voted out. But there's no equivalence between these two leaders. But saying there's no equivalence doesn't mean that one is good and the other's bad.

Haaretz and JTimes have articles on that too.


I don't believe a fucking word out of the JKK's mouth or Hamas.

You'd have to be indoctrinated to believe it.
 

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Want to see worse?
Not particularly. I’m assuming that person was not in one of the many Hamas supplied bomb shelters across Gaza? If they managed to build 500 km of tunnels under Gaza, surely they must’ve also built bombs shelters for the citizens if they knew they were going to attack their neighbour?
There are thousands of dead kids. By the looks of things Palestinians are compiling photos and videos of almost every dead kid.
I’m sure they are. For the same reasons, there are no bombs shelters for the non-Hamas.
Bibi and the Jew Klux Klan are forever staining Israel as savages.
Yep. Because it’s up to Israel (& the UN?) to protect “Palestinians” because their government (=Hamas) sure as shit isn’t going to.
I don't believe a fucking word out of the JKK's mouth or Hamas.

You'd have to be indoctrinated to believe it.
There are definitely rabbit holes for people to go down, shame aren’t bombs shelters, in Gaza anyway.
 

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Why when Israel uses precision strikes and follows the laws of warfare just like Russia does never targeting schools hospitals churches mosques? The same propaganda comes out of both Moscow and Tel Aviv.

Ukraine has nuclear bomb shelters yet for some bizarre reason children and eldery are still being killed in schools, hospitals, churches, retirement homes.

Just Monday Russia bombed a seniors complex in Sumy. What do you think their news said about the strike? It was full of Nazi Azov guys using it as a human shield!

What is Azoz? Why is there Azoz? Who is Azoz?

They didn't exist until Russia started the occupation just like PLO then Hamas didn't exist before the occupation.

See the link?

Russia attacks Ukraine geriatric centre and power grid​

Anastasiia Malenko Sept 19

KYIV (Reuters) -Russian forces hit a geriatric centre in the Ukrainian city of Sumy and targeted its energy sector in a new wave of airstrikes on Thursday, killing at least one civilian, Ukrainian officials said.

A U.N. monitoring body said attacks on the power grid probably violated humanitarian law while the International Energy Agency said in a report that Ukraine’s electricity supply shortfall in the critical winter months could reach about a third of expected peak demand.

During a daytime strike on the northern city of Sumy, a Russian guided bomb hit a five-storey building, regional and military officials said.

One person was killed and 12 wounded, the interior ministry said on the Telegram messaging app.

President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said rescue teams were checking to see whether people were trapped under rubble.

Images from the site shared alongside the ministry’s post showed elderly patients evacuated from the damaged building lying on the ground on carpets and blankets.

In his nightly video address, Zelenskiy said that Russia had launched 90 guided bomb attacks in the past 24 hours

He also said that Ukraine’s forces had “managed to diminish the occupiers’ assault potential in Donetsk region,” though the situation remained difficult in areas subjected to the heaviest attacks, near the cities of Pokrovsk and Kurakhove.

Russia’s Defence Ministry said its forces had captured the village of Heorhiivka, east of Kurakhove.

The General Staff of Ukraine’s military, in an afternoon report, referred to the village as one of several engulfed by fighting. Popular Ukrainian military blog DeepState said the village was in Russian hands.

Overnight, Ukraine’s air force said it had shot down all 42 drones and one of four missiles launched since Russia invaded Ukraine more than 2-1/2 years ago.

Russian forces have pummelled the energy system in the Sumy region in multiple strikes this week, reducing power in some areas and forcing authorities to use back-up power systems.

Ukraine’s energy ministry said power cuts had been in force in 10 regions due to airstrikes and technological reasons.

In a sign of its concern, the European Union said a fuel power plant was being dismantled in Lithuania to be rebuilt in Ukraine, and that electricity exports would also be increased.

The U.N. Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine said Russia’s attacks violated international humanitarian law by jeopardizing essential services, including water and heating, while also threatening public health, education and the economy, according to the report.

Kyiv says targeting energy system is a war crime, and the International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for four Russian officials and military officers for the bombing of civilian power infrastructure.

Moscow says power infrastructure is a legitimate military target and dismisses the charges as irrelevant.

SUMY A FREQUENT TARGET

Moscow has repeatedly attacked the Sumy region, which borders Russia’s Kursk region, the site of a major Ukrainian incursion in which Kyiv says it seized over 100 settlements.

Russian shelling killed three people near Krasnopillia in the Sumy region on Wednesday evening, local prosecutors said. More shelling on Thursday wounded two people and damaged a medical institution, they added.

Russia has taken back two more villages in Kursk, a senior commander said on Thursday, adding that Russian forces were also advancing in eastern Ukraine.

Zelenskiy, however, said the incursion into Kursk region had succeeded in diverting nearly 40,000 Russian troops to the area.

(Additonal reporting by Olena Harmash, Yuliia Dysa, Editing by Timothy Heritage, Ron Popeski and Lisa Shumaker).
 
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What is Azoz? Why is there Azoz? Who is Azoz?
I’ve never heard of the term until you used it yesterday and I still haven’t googled it. I’m assuming it’s not another synonym for Jew like Zionist?😳
Why when Israel uses precision strikes and follows the laws of warfare just like Russia does never targeting schools hospitals churches mosques? The same propaganda comes out of both Moscow and Tel Aviv.

Ukraine has nuclear bomb shelters yet for some bizarre reason children and eldery are still being killed in schools, hospitals, churches, retirement homes.
There’s propaganda on all sides of all conflicts. You know that Hamas isn’t embedded in an under schools, hospitals, etc…? You can prove this? You know this definitively? Just curious. Some inside scoop to this JKK intel?😉

Here’s a story told in memes, being screenshots, even though Israel has not accepted responsibility for these defective pages and walkie-talkies (and other electronic devices, anything with a lithium ion battery) issued specifically to Hezbollah.
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Extending the olive branch, so to say…
 

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I’ve never heard of the term until you used it yesterday and I still haven’t googled it. I’m assuming it’s not another synonym for Jew like Zionist?😳

There’s propaganda on all sides of all conflicts. You know that Hamas isn’t embedded in an under schools, hospitals, etc…? You can prove this? You know this definitively? Just curious. Some inside scoop to this JKK intel?😉

Here’s a story told in memes, being screenshots, even though Israel has not accepted responsibility for these defective pages and walkie-talkies (and other electronic devices, anything with a lithium ion battery) issued specifically to Hezbollah.
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Extending the olive branch, so to say…
Who is Azov? Are you fucking kidding? Theyre the Ukrainian Nazi terrorists Putin needs to liberate Donbass and Lugansk from.

Ron....its illegal to bomb schools, hospitalsv
retirement home and especially bomb kids playing regardless if anyone is amongst them.

ITS FUCKING IMMORAL AND UNJUSTIFUCKIBGFIABLE. Go find another place to bomb where there are no children, hospitals or bed ridden seniors. 30,000 Hamas can't be that hard to find.

The are no excuses for killing children in anyway shape or fucking form.

Azov Brigade

The 12th Special Operations Brigade "Azov" (Ukrainian: 12-та бригада спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: 12-ta bryhada spetsialnoho pryznachennya "Azov")[8] is a formation of the National Guard of Ukraine formerly based in Mariupol, in the coastal region of the Sea of Azov, from which it derives its name.[9] It was founded in May 2014 as the Azov Battalion[a] (Ukrainian: батальйон «Азов», romanized: Batalion "Azov"), a self-funded volunteer militia under the command of Andriy Biletsky, to fight Russian-backed forces in the Donbas War. It was formally incorporated into the National Guard on 11 November 2014,[11][12] and redesignated Special Operations Detachment "Azov", also known as the Azov Regiment.[c] In February 2023, the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs announced that Azov was to be expanded as a brigade of the new Offensive Guard.[13][14]

The unit has drawn controversy over its early and allegedly continuing association with far-right groups and neo-Nazi ideology,[15] its use of controversial symbols linked to Nazism, and early allegations that members of the unit participated in human rights violations.[16][17][18] Some experts have been critical of the regiment's role within the larger Azov Movement, a political umbrella group made up of veterans and organizations linked to Azov, and its possible far-right political ambitions, despite claims of the regiment's depoliticization.[19][10] Others argue that the regiment has changed, tempering its far-right underpinnings as it became part of the National Guard.[20][21][11] The Azov Regiment has been a recurring theme of Russian propaganda.[22] The unit has been designated a terrorist group by Russia since August 2022.[23]

The regiment's size was estimated to be around 2,500 combatants in 2017,[3] and around 900 in 2022.[24] Most of the unit's members are Russian speakers from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. It also includes members from other countries.[11] The regiment gained renewed attention during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Russian president Vladimir Putin alleged that Ukraine was controlled by far-right forces, such as Azov, and gave "denazification" as a reason for the invasion. The Azov regiment played a prominent role in the siege of Mariupol and made its final stand at the Azovstal steel plant.[25][26] The siege ended when a significant number of the regiment's fighters, including its commander, Denys Prokopenko, surrendered to Russian forces on orders from the Ukrainian high command.
 
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Who is Azov? Are you fucking kidding? Theyre the Ukrainian Nazi terrorists Putin needs to liberate Donbass and Lugansk from.

Ron....its illegal to bomb schools, hospitalsv
retirement home and especially bomb kids playing regardless if anyone is amongst them.

ITS FUCKING IMMORAL AND UNJUSTIFUCKIBGFIABLE. Go find another place to bomb where there are no children, hospitals or bed ridden seniors. 30,000 Hamas can't be that hard to find.

The are no excuses for killing children in anyway shape or fucking form.

Azov Brigade

The 12th Special Operations Brigade "Azov" (Ukrainian: 12-та бригада спеціального призначення «Азов», romanized: 12-ta bryhada spetsialnoho pryznachennya "Azov")[8] is a formation of the National Guard of Ukraine formerly based in Mariupol, in the coastal region of the Sea of Azov, from which it derives its name.[9] It was founded in May 2014 as the Azov Battalion[a] (Ukrainian: батальйон «Азов», romanized: Batalion "Azov"), a self-funded volunteer militia under the command of Andriy Biletsky, to fight Russian-backed forces in the Donbas War. It was formally incorporated into the National Guard on 11 November 2014,[11][12] and redesignated Special Operations Detachment "Azov", also known as the Azov Regiment.[c] In February 2023, the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs announced that Azov was to be expanded as a brigade of the new Offensive Guard.[13][14]

The unit has drawn controversy over its early and allegedly continuing association with far-right groups and neo-Nazi ideology,[15] its use of controversial symbols linked to Nazism, and early allegations that members of the unit participated in human rights violations.[16][17][18] Some experts have been critical of the regiment's role within the larger Azov Movement, a political umbrella group made up of veterans and organizations linked to Azov, and its possible far-right political ambitions, despite claims of the regiment's depoliticization.[19][10] Others argue that the regiment has changed, tempering its far-right underpinnings as it became part of the National Guard.[20][21][11] The Azov Regiment has been a recurring theme of Russian propaganda.[22] The unit has been designated a terrorist group by Russia since August 2022.[23]

The regiment's size was estimated to be around 2,500 combatants in 2017,[3] and around 900 in 2022.[24] Most of the unit's members are Russian speakers from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. It also includes members from other countries.[11] The regiment gained renewed attention during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Russian president Vladimir Putin alleged that Ukraine was controlled by far-right forces, such as Azov, and gave "denazification" as a reason for the invasion. The Azov regiment played a prominent role in the siege of Mariupol and made its final stand at the Azovstal steel plant.[25][26] The siege ended when a significant number of the regiment's fighters, including its commander, Denys Prokopenko, surrendered to Russian forces on orders from the Ukrainian high command.
Oh, BTW, Israel already did the phone and pager thing to Hamas a couple years ago. It sure ended their fight against occupation didn't it?
 

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Oh, BTW, Israel already did the phone and pager thing to Hamas a couple years ago. It sure ended their fight against occupation didn't it?
So it shouldn’t have worked twice then.
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Ron....its illegal to bomb schools, hospitalsv
retirement home and especially bomb kids playing regardless if anyone is amongst them.
Ahhh…. I see where you’re going, & it would be illegal to do so, unless they were being used illegally as military outpost or bases or billets, etc… you’re talking about the Geneva convention, right?
Who is Azov? Are you fucking kidding? Theyre the Ukrainian Nazi terrorists Putin needs to liberate Donbass and Lugansk from.
I’ve just never heard the term used before yesterday, and I hadn’t looked it up to see what it meant.
 

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Off the top of my head without looking things up because I don’t have the time at the moment, I think it’s somewhere around articles 50 or 51 of the Geneva convention, which state that you can’t use schools and hospitals as military outposts, etc…or they become legitimate military targets.

I am no expert on pretty much anything, but a wealth of useless obscure knowledge, and this would have to be verified above because I’m just pulling that right out of my butt.
 

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So it shouldn’t have worked twice then.
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Ahhh…. I see where you’re going, & it would be illegal to do so, unless they were being used illegally as military outpost or bases or billets, etc… you’re talking about the Geneva convention, right?

I’ve just never heard the term used before yesterday, and I hadn’t looked it up to see what it meant.
Ron . You're justifying Putin's bullshit as truth that Azoz is hiding in schools, hospitals, kindergartens (day care) and retirement homes.

They weren't fucking in those places.

You're sinking low justifying killing kids. There is no justification.

Why isn't Ukraine bombing Russian schools, hospitals, retirement home and kids playing in the streets.

Did Russia bomb "humanitarian corridors" the same way Israel did? They sure fucking did using identical excuses.

You saw the kid with its brains blown out. Was Hamas hiding inside her skull? Did the soldier that aimed and shot her square in the fucking forehead think she was Hamas?

Is it that you don't want to know that you're supporting savages? Why don't you? Makes you feel used and thought of as a moron?
 
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I’ve looked and it’s definitely not articles 50 or 51. I’m not justifying anybody’s bullshit, especially Putin’s.
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I sure as hell didn’t write the Geneva Convention either. Here’s a shortlist, and you can skim through it yourself.
Both Russia and Israel have made those claims. Russia is getting dinged for those false claims as will Israel.

Russia was lying but Israel wasn't? Give your head a shake.

Should Ukraine blow up all the schools hospitals and seniors homes in Donetsk when Russian really are using those facilities? What would happen if they did? The Western supporters would blow gaskets and give birth to several kinds of kittens.