Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported

spilledthebeer

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I know of only one Niger, but it's the first time I hear it's a racist country.

Think of all the money Nigerian letter scammers can save if they are actually allowed to LIVE in Canada! Instead of paying long distance phone rates to rip us off!

And LIE-berals can charge them SALES TAX!

This is of course the reason LIE-berals have NOT reigned in those door to door energy and phone sales scammers that plague us so- LIE-berals want the extra sales tax GRAVY!

Just watch CTV On Your side or other consumer programs- when some scammer gets caught out -the scammer refunds all the money- but LIE-berals KEEP the sales tax that was charged! It means the scammer sometimes loses out on that sales tax refund- but hey- its just the cost of doing business with us in LIE-beral land!
 

spilledthebeer

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That made sense to you?

Anyhow...

The strain is real...


Unofficial Border Crossings Spike, Strain Canada's Welcoming Ways


Oh now- dont let it get the fractured English of anti white radicals with their twisted propaganda get to you! You know they are just trying to be annoying!

Just keep throwing LOGIC at them- its the one thing they cannot respond effectively to! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!



Here is an article exposing the bigotry of the Black Lives Matter group-with some comments of my own in brackets):

Thank You, Professor Sowell


By Michelle Malkin. First posted: Monday, January 02, 2017 06:00 PM EST

I first read Thomas Sowell in college -- no thanks to my college.

At the majority of America's institutions of "higher learning," reading Thomas Sowell was a subversive act in the early 1990s when I was a student. It remains so today. Why? Because the prolific libertarian economist's vast body of work is a clarion rejection of all that the liberal intelligentsia hold dear.

Among the left's most corrosive ideas is the concept of perpetual and permanent racial victimhood, which social engineers pretend to rectify through federally mandated, taxpayer-subsidized preferential policies. Sowell's groundbreaking academic analyses of these programs in the U.S. and around the world exposed how elites profit mightily at the expense of the alleged beneficiaries of government-coerced affirmative action.

(It was in the early 1990`s that Time magazine published the results of an interesting poll-they looked at both black and white men then under 30 years of age-with comparable levels of education and discovered that the salary difference between black and white men having both similar age and education was less than half of one percent. What it comes down to is that if black kids get the education they WILL also get the job And the decent salary!)

The grand rhetoric of diversity masks the true intent and actual impact of current racially discriminatory "solutions" to past racial discrimination: solidifying the power of the few over the many. As Sowell put it succinctly in one of the first pieces of his I came across in the journal "The Public Interest":

"Live people are being sacrificed because of what dead people did."

In that essay and much more deeply in his book, "Preferential Policies: An International Perspective," published that year, Sowell explored the "mismatch" effect in the ivory tower. While prestigious schools such as the University of California, Berkeley congratulated themselves for manufacturing "wonderfully diverse" student bodies ostensibly to make up for the legacy of American slavery, (which Sowell pointed out was in no way unique to either the American South or blacks), he reported that more than 70 percent of black students at UC Berkeley failed to graduate.

"What they've effectively done" in lowering academic standards by race in the name of social justice, Sowell explained in an interview with C-SPAN's Brian Lamb, "is rented these bodies for window dressing for a few years, and then, when they're through with them, they're put aside and a new bunch of bodies are brought in."

(I would point out that those kids who were encouraged to attend university for image reasons and without the academic ability to succeed were also financially abused-they were loaded up with debt for an education they could not achieve!)

Who benefits? Not the students, but the bean-counting administrators and political correctness marketers at Berkeley -- Diversity, Inc. -- who exploit minority students for their glossy admissions brochures. The other vested interest? Tenured radicals in what Sowell called the "black studies establishment" who "need students to be in their classrooms" to justify their paychecks.

Sowell, who grew up black and poor in Harlem, worked as a delivery man, served in the U.S. Marines, graduated from Harvard Law School, earned his Ph.D. in economics at the University of Chicago, and fully realized the folly of Marxism during a stint as a federal government intern, spurned identity politics collectivism.

"Fortunately, even during my period of Marxism I had respect for evidence and logic," Sowell told an interviewer in 2004, "so it was only a matter of time before my Marxism began to unravel as I compared what actually happened in history to what was supposed to happen."

Chromosomes and skin colour and partisan loyalty didn't dictate his thinking. He embraced time-tested, transcendent principles grounded in the reality of how things really are -- as opposed to the fantastical imaginings of what he trenchantly called the "Vision of the Anointed."

Sowell's book on that subject -published in 1995- the same year the Anointed One, Barack Obama, emerged on the national scene with his fabrication-filled memoir, "Dreams of My Father"- thoroughly dismantled the tyranny and tactics of self-described "progressives" whose control-freak narcissism is wrapped in good intentions and false narratives.

Sowell's assessments were rooted not in fear or hatred or fanaticism or moral superiority, but in empirical evidence. He judged outcomes, not oration. He didn't make excuses. He made sense.

"In the anointed we find a whole class of supposedly 'thinking people' who do remarkably little thinking about substance and a great deal of verbal expression," Sowell observed. "In order that this relatively small group of people can believe themselves wiser and nobler than the common herd, we have adopted policies which impose heavy costs on millions of other human beings, not only in taxes, but also in lost jobs, social disintegration, and a loss of personal safety. Seldom have so few cost so much to so many."

In another giant contribution to contemporary political and policy analysis, Sowell's 1999 tome, "The Quest for Cosmic Justice," addressed the abject failures of those who seek to cure all inequities, inequalities, disparities and ills through government intervention. He summed up his findings thusly:

1. The impossible is not going to be achieved.

2. It is a waste of precious resources to try to achieve it.

3. The devastating costs and social dangers that go with these attempts to achieve the impossible should be taken into account.

The former leftist playwright David Mamet, in his 2008 manifesto, "Why I Am No Longer a Brain-Dead Liberal," cited his exposure to Sowell, whom he dubbed "our greatest contemporary philosopher," as a critical factor in his conversion. Whether tackling the "bait and switch media," the "organized noisemakers," or the lawless enablers of "social disintegration, Thomas Sowell's dozens of academic books and thousands of newspaper columns have sparked generations of his readers across the political spectrum to think independently and challenge imposed visions.

Asked once how he would like to be remembered, Sowell responded: "Oh, heavens, I'm not sure I want to be particularly remembered. I would like the ideas that I've put out there to be remembered." Mission accomplished. Though it has been decades since he taught in a formal classroom, his students are legion.

Thank you, Professor Sowell.

Michelle Malkin is a senior editor at Conservative Review. For more articles and videos from Michelle, visit ConservativeReview
 

EagleSmack

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Canada granting refugee status to fewer illegal border crossers

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...o-fewer-illegal-border-crossers-idUSKCN1IN1CO

Are the Liberals cracking down on immigrants now?

Trudeau’s government has sought to stem the influx by sending officials to the United States to dissuade Haitians, Salvadorans and others from illegally entering into Canada to seek refugee status. It has asked the United States to amend an agreement between the two nations to make it easier to turn back thousands of illegal border crossers.

Canada has also sent its immigration and refugee minister to Nigeria, asking the Nigerian government to help discourage its citizens from crossing illegally into Canada to claim refugee status and asking the United States to not grant visas to people who might then go to Canada.



Haitians, Salvadoreans, Nigerians.... hmmmmmm. I wonder why?
 

Durry

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All the losers are flocking to Canada to be looked after by the Canadian taxpayers.

All because the Libs are allowing it.
 

JLM

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This thread has been a waste of time, effort and space for over a year. At this juncture there is only one guy who should be deported and that is not likely to happen.
 

spilledthebeer

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This thread has been a waste of time, effort and space for over a year. At this juncture there is only one guy who should be deported and that is not likely to happen.


WE should be VERY CONCERNED that LIE-berals are granting refugee status to LESS illegals! It is a typical LIE-beral SCAM!


LIE-berals have NO intention of deporting any of the illegals as they are far to important a resource as future supporters of LIE-beral party!



However LIE-berals are distressed and worried by the amount of flack they are catching from ordinary Cdns as our cities fill up with people who lack even basic skills needed to survive here without either getting many decades worth of govt aid- or- as in the case of Nigerians who are famous for their e-mail letter scams- they will turn to crime if they decide that LIE-beral welfare is not generous enough!!


And it is not helping the Cdn public mood that so many "new arrivals" are displaying major anti white sentiments even as they demand our charity!



LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how many people have come here illegally because it might distress us!


LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how much it is costing to feed and house and educate their illegal supporters for fear it will distress us!


LIE-berals have discovered that simply getting news media to stop showing swarms of illegals coming here is not enough to make Cdns forget about the problem that continues to GROW!


LIE-berals have run out of places to "store" illegals now that our homeless shelters are full of them but LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how much our property taxes will be driven up in order to provide that additional space and care for the LIE-beral supporters!


But- GOOD NEWS- FOR LIE-BERALS!!!!!! THEY HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!!! LIE-berals will stop formally registering illegals and put them instead into a sort of political and legal limbo- they will no longer be illegals and will certainly no longer be registered as "refugees" since that label FELL OFF long ago!



Illegals are now nothing more than a mass of people awaiting LIE-beral immigration court dates! No need to count them in an official way and certainly no need to identify where they came from- they are now merely anonymous charity cases needing our help!


Somewhere out there in LIE-beral land THERE IS a master list regarding the illegals- but LIE-berals have hidden it very carefully! The investigating reporter- and there ARE a very few- now can only put in "access to information requests" for local lists!



Every town has its own SEPARATE LIST! LIE-berals have hidden their illegal supporters in plain view!



And of course LIE-beral privacy laws prevent officials from discussing details of their "clients" so "requests for information" will not yield useful amswers!


LIE-berals will ensure we DO NOT get a clear picture of how many illegals they have rounded up as if they were crazy cat ladies collecting strays!



WE CAN BE ASSURED that LIE-berals will do their level best to HIDE how many illegals will be covered in the blanket amnesty that LIE-berals will offer one day soon in order to "clear the immigration backlog" that LIE-berals have created as an utterly shameless vote buying exercise!
 

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WE should be VERY CONCERNED that LIE-berals are granting refugee status to LESS illegals! It is a typical LIE-beral SCAM!


LIE-berals have NO intention of deporting any of the illegals as they are far to important a resource as future supporters of LIE-beral party!



However LIE-berals are distressed and worried by the amount of flack they are catching from ordinary Cdns as our cities fill up with people who lack even basic skills needed to survive here without either getting many decades worth of govt aid- or- as in the case of Nigerians who are famous for their e-mail letter scams- they will turn to crime if they decide that LIE-beral welfare is not generous enough!!


And it is not helping the Cdn public mood that so many "new arrivals" are displaying major anti white sentiments even as they demand our charity!



LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how many people have come here illegally because it might distress us!


LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how much it is costing to feed and house and educate their illegal supporters for fear it will distress us!


LIE-berals have discovered that simply getting news media to stop showing swarms of illegals coming here is not enough to make Cdns forget about the problem that continues to GROW!


LIE-berals have run out of places to "store" illegals now that our homeless shelters are full of them but LIE-berals DO NOT want to admit how much our property taxes will be driven up in order to provide that additional space and care for the LIE-beral supporters!


But- GOOD NEWS- FOR LIE-BERALS!!!!!! THEY HAVE A SOLUTION!!!!!! LIE-berals will stop formally registering illegals and put them instead into a sort of political and legal limbo- they will no longer be illegals and will certainly no longer be registered as "refugees" since that label FELL OFF long ago!



Illegals are now nothing more than a mass of people awaiting LIE-beral immigration court dates! No need to count them in an official way and certainly no need to identify where they came from- they are now merely anonymous charity cases needing our help!


Somewhere out there in LIE-beral land THERE IS a master list regarding the illegals- but LIE-berals have hidden it very carefully! The investigating reporter- and there ARE a very few- now can only put in "access to information requests" for local lists!



Every town has its own SEPARATE LIST! LIE-berals have hidden their illegal supporters in plain view!



And of course LIE-beral privacy laws prevent officials from discussing details of their "clients" so "requests for information" will not yield useful amswers!


LIE-berals will ensure we DO NOT get a clear picture of how many illegals they have rounded up as if they were crazy cat ladies collecting strays!



WE CAN BE ASSURED that LIE-berals will do their level best to HIDE how many illegals will be covered in the blanket amnesty that LIE-berals will offer one day soon in order to "clear the immigration backlog" that LIE-berals have created as an utterly shameless vote buying exercise!
Actually most of the refugees are being turned back.

Grow up.
 

Durry

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Those who are claiming refugee status are just looking to be looked after by hard working Canadians.

Just how do you think these useless scum got to the boarder in the first place?
 

EagleSmack

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Actually most of the refugees are being turned back.

Grow up.

Ahhhh no they aren't. None of them are.

Anyhow... I found this article entertaining as it is a Canadian Newspaper using the Washington Post as a primary source for an article about the Canadian Refugee Crisis.

Rhetoric around asylum claimants paints them unfairly


http://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/05/22/rhetoric-around-asylum-claimants-paints-them-unfairly.html


I know I have to teach Curious Cdn about Canada, Canadian History, and the Canadian Healthcare System but I never thought Canadian Journalists would have to rely on US Journalists for news about Canada.
 

Durry

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Canadian News Media are all Liberals, they don’t want to say anything bad about how the Fed Libs are screwing up, so the odd Conservative News Media person cannot crack into the Liberal controlled machine to get true information, they have to rely on outside sources
 

spilledthebeer

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Actually most of the refugees are being turned back.

Grow up.


You tell me to grow up? And then present this CHILDISH LIE that most of the illegals are being turned back from Canada?



What you tell me is the OPPOSITE of truth!



How much Weed have you ingested? Clearly you have had TOO MUCH!


Here is an example of the kind of people that radical Muslims THINK will help them establish the Canadian Caliphate! Muslims are DELUDING THEMSELVES!



I find it utterly amazing how far civil service Hogs will go to `D` anything they do not approve of? That is-they will dismiss, delay, deny, delude, disengage, deride any fact or situation they don’t like or find embarrassing! This is why they are so determined to present drunken imbecile-and Hog union boy Stan Kabel as the ONLY villain in the Walkerton water disaster in which SEVEN people DIED! Hogs are so dedicated to dismissing the uncomfortable truth they wont discuss how many people did die and wont discuss how many ended up on kidney dialysis either thanks to an unholy alliance of drunken union goons and chicken shit Walkerton politicians trying to hang on to their gravy train seats by AVOIDING ANY confrontation with drunken union goons!

Hog determination to dismiss the disaster as an exception accidentally engineered by one man is so great they will EDIT the truth and omit critical facts such as just how often Kabel `forgot`-as Hogs put it-to reload chlorine into water purification machinery. Hogs will NOT admit that Kabel neglected to refill or REPAIR MULTIPLE chlorinators on MULTIPLE occasions! Nor will they discuss how often Kabel submitted FAKE water samples to hide how infrequently he was really doing his job! Hogs will not admit that Walkerton council hired Kabel as head of the water department due to his `good old boy` ties as his properly licensed FATHER had the job before him-Walkerton council KNEW son Stan was NOT licensed to operate the system but hey-Stan was a good union Boy-and being unlicensed he could be had cheap- so he got the job! And of course once Stan became an alcoholic-and led the rest of the water dept down that same alcohol laced road, council circled the wagons and began to `D` things! There is NO FACT that Hogs are not comfortable to quickly `omit` from the record!

So much for Hog `D`ing of Walkerton. Today we have a nice little story out of the Toronto history books and as usual I have added some comments of my own in brackets). On January 15, 2004, Toronto Sun writer Sue-Ann Levy wrote a column about `Absurd` union tactics and I have summarized her column below-lets see what sort of `D`s we get from Hogs this time around:

After SEVEN YEARS of legal wrangling-right up to the supreme Court of Canada, CUPE Local 79 lost its bid to reinstate a male union worker convicted of sex assault on a boy in his supervision.

Toronto Sun writer Sue-Ann Levy told us on January 15, 2004: That a city recreation instructor at the McCormack community centre in Toronto committed a series of sexual assaults over a period of years-starting when the boy was nine years old and ending when he was twelve-due to the worker being ARRESTED for pedophilia!

The worker was tried, convicted, and served his prison sentence. Once released the convicted pedophile made it clear he wanted his old job back but instead the City fired him! For reasons that are obvious to an ordinary person but incomprehensible to a Hog, the City was not willing to let him come back to any City facility that might have kids in it; so CUPE 79 launched a grievance against the City-alleging unjust dismissal.

The grievance went to arbitration and in a decision worthy of Kafka the arbitrator ordered the city to re-hire the worker. The arbitrator wrote this about the case ”the criminal conviction was NOT conclusive proof of the employees guilt....that the employee did not commit the acts alleged”.

The arbitrator ordered the worker re-hired in 1998 and George Monteith was city director of employment law at the time and he is quoted by Levy stating: “we have been in court ever since”. Meaning the matter has been argued through the courts from 1998 up to 2004! Monteith went on to say that THIRTEEN JUDGES at various judicial levels ALL over-ruled the arbitrator. Monteith also claimed that the cost to the city for outside counsel for this case-that is-lawyers not already working on retainer for the city-cost approximately $145,000.00! (I point out there would of course be additional costs-in the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS- for the earlier arbitration efforts.)

Ann Dembinski was CUPE president at the time and “was on holiday” when the final judgement by the Supreme Court was made, but others at CUPE headquarters refused to comment on what they described as a “precedent setting case” as they had not yet reviewed the latest judgement.

City director of employment law George Monteith pointed out that “in fairness, they (meaning the union) have an obligation to provide fair representation to their members”!

(But an ordinary person will ask: at what point does `FAIR` dissolve into insanity? JUST HOW HUGE would be the damages levied against the city if they re-hired a convicted pedophile and he then proceeded to molest ANOTHER child on city property? And just how could city officials look the public in the eyes after allowing such a travesty of justice to occur?)

Levy then obtained this information from Bill Adams, city director of employee and labour relations- that as of January 2004 : ”there are 2,603 union driven grievances under way” and that “some of them involve employees convicted of criminal theft from the city”. But there is some good news-Levy was told by Adams that there were 3120 grievances at the same time period the previous year! (I say a drop from 3120 to 2603 is a nice reduction in the level of union madness!) Adams also explained that it costs $3,000.00 per DAY to fight a grievance at the arbitration stage-with the average `case` running about 12 days-and of course going to court would escalate the costs dramatically!

Adams also admitted that although none of the 2004 grievances were as serious as the pedophile case, he did admit that a number of those 2.603 grievances involved city workers CONVICTED of criminal THEFT of city property.

(I ask: WHY would unions think it would be morally right to FORCE the city to RE-HIRE criminals CONVICTED of theft of city property? Apparently union chiefs like the idea of having a `desperate` work force to manage-in other words the most dedicate and loyal union Hogs are those who cannot survive without the union and who owe the union leaders BIG favours!)

(From all this a cynical tax payer may easily conclude that the convenience of union members trumps any need for public safety/concern for child welfare or respect of tax payers money-but what else can we expect from a pack of Hogs who think they are entitled to the WORLD ON A PLATTER-delivered steaming hot to THEIR gravy train!)

(It will be interesting to see how Hogs `D` this story. Certainly they showed no shame over Walkerton-they insist that it is the fault of Mike Harris in spite of all the pieces of the disaster being put into place LONG before he appeared on the political scene. And of course the province had NO authority over Walkerton water dept or of the local union and Harris certainly had no legal right to fire Stan Kabel as Hogs `d`-mand that he should have.)

(Of course one has to ask if Hogs were so determined that somebody FIRE Stan Kabel then why didn’t they blame LIE-beral Jean Chretien for not stepping in? Why just Harris-and of course we know its because Chretien was a LIE-beral dispensing Hog gravy and Harris had pissed off Hogs by pinching pennies and limiting their gravy!)

(And speaking of Hogs `D`ing things-why don’t we ask just how it was that murderous drunk Stan Kabel KEPT his good union Hog status AFTER the Walkerton disaster and once the furor died down he got ANOTHER nice Hog job in a nearby municipality installing traffic signals! Come on now-which of you Hogs wants to step forward and explain which union executives and which local politicians thought it was a good idea to RE-HIRE Kabel?
 

DaSleeper

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Why don't you just post a link and c/p a paragraph or two instead of boring us wit a long post with no reference whatsoever...
Nobody is interested in an unsubstantiated long rant like Waldo and B.S. post
 

spilledthebeer

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Why don't you just post a link and c/p a paragraph or two instead of boring us wit a long post with no reference whatsoever...
Nobody is interested in an unsubstantiated long rant like Waldo and B.S. post
Kathleen Wynne insists “she never lost her way” as premier-so she is telling us made this mess DELIBERATELY?

Here is a LIE-beral style riddle- courtesy of Doug Ford: What is the difference between Wynne-bag and a dumpster fire? The fire in the dumpster produces AFFORDABLE heat and light!

Ontari-owe Lieberals shower us in gifts- free day care, prescription drugs, more medical aid! Too bad they do not want to discuss the new fees, new taxes and massive new debts and costs for all that new BORROWED money!

LIE-berals own up to their true nature- premier Wynne is now openly trying to Buy that June 2018 election- but she does NOT wish to tell us who will be getting rthe bills if she is re-elected!

The public has recognized that no matter what Wynne-bag offers us- she will offer DOUBLE to her pals!

Whatever Wynne-bag “gives” us- we will have to pay for at least FOUR TIMES OVER!

WE will pay ONCE for what we actually use.

WE will pay TWICE for the double helping she gives to Hogs because they are ENTITLED!

And we will pay for the FOURTH TIME in interest on the BORROWED money!

LIE-berals are trying to lure us into their debt CAGE!

Ontari-owe LIE-beral Minister of Labour insists that LIE-beral minimum wage increase is good for families- WITHOUT BOTHERING to tell us how many new taxes and fees and revenue tools desperate for gravy at any price LIE-berals will bring in if they do win the June 2018 election!
 

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You tell me to grow up? And then present this CHILDISH LIE that most of the illegals are being turned back from Canada?



What you tell me is the OPPOSITE of truth!



How much Weed have you ingested? Clearly you have had TOO MUCH!


Here is an example of the kind of people that radical Muslims THINK will help them establish the Canadian Caliphate! Muslims are DELUDING THEMSELVES!



I find it utterly amazing how far civil service Hogs will go to `D` anything they do not approve of? That is-they will dismiss, delay, deny, delude, disengage, deride any fact or situation they don’t like or find embarrassing! This is why they are so determined to present drunken imbecile-and Hog union boy Stan Kabel as the ONLY villain in the Walkerton water disaster in which SEVEN people DIED! Hogs are so dedicated to dismissing the uncomfortable truth they wont discuss how many people did die and wont discuss how many ended up on kidney dialysis either thanks to an unholy alliance of drunken union goons and chicken shit Walkerton politicians trying to hang on to their gravy train seats by AVOIDING ANY confrontation with drunken union goons!

Hog determination to dismiss the disaster as an exception accidentally engineered by one man is so great they will EDIT the truth and omit critical facts such as just how often Kabel `forgot`-as Hogs put it-to reload chlorine into water purification machinery. Hogs will NOT admit that Kabel neglected to refill or REPAIR MULTIPLE chlorinators on MULTIPLE occasions! Nor will they discuss how often Kabel submitted FAKE water samples to hide how infrequently he was really doing his job! Hogs will not admit that Walkerton council hired Kabel as head of the water department due to his `good old boy` ties as his properly licensed FATHER had the job before him-Walkerton council KNEW son Stan was NOT licensed to operate the system but hey-Stan was a good union Boy-and being unlicensed he could be had cheap- so he got the job! And of course once Stan became an alcoholic-and led the rest of the water dept down that same alcohol laced road, council circled the wagons and began to `D` things! There is NO FACT that Hogs are not comfortable to quickly `omit` from the record!

So much for Hog `D`ing of Walkerton. Today we have a nice little story out of the Toronto history books and as usual I have added some comments of my own in brackets). On January 15, 2004, Toronto Sun writer Sue-Ann Levy wrote a column about `Absurd` union tactics and I have summarized her column below-lets see what sort of `D`s we get from Hogs this time around:

After SEVEN YEARS of legal wrangling-right up to the supreme Court of Canada, CUPE Local 79 lost its bid to reinstate a male union worker convicted of sex assault on a boy in his supervision.

Toronto Sun writer Sue-Ann Levy told us on January 15, 2004: That a city recreation instructor at the McCormack community centre in Toronto committed a series of sexual assaults over a period of years-starting when the boy was nine years old and ending when he was twelve-due to the worker being ARRESTED for pedophilia!

The worker was tried, convicted, and served his prison sentence. Once released the convicted pedophile made it clear he wanted his old job back but instead the City fired him! For reasons that are obvious to an ordinary person but incomprehensible to a Hog, the City was not willing to let him come back to any City facility that might have kids in it; so CUPE 79 launched a grievance against the City-alleging unjust dismissal.

The grievance went to arbitration and in a decision worthy of Kafka the arbitrator ordered the city to re-hire the worker. The arbitrator wrote this about the case ”the criminal conviction was NOT conclusive proof of the employees guilt....that the employee did not commit the acts alleged”.

The arbitrator ordered the worker re-hired in 1998 and George Monteith was city director of employment law at the time and he is quoted by Levy stating: “we have been in court ever since”. Meaning the matter has been argued through the courts from 1998 up to 2004! Monteith went on to say that THIRTEEN JUDGES at various judicial levels ALL over-ruled the arbitrator. Monteith also claimed that the cost to the city for outside counsel for this case-that is-lawyers not already working on retainer for the city-cost approximately $145,000.00! (I point out there would of course be additional costs-in the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS- for the earlier arbitration efforts.)

Ann Dembinski was CUPE president at the time and “was on holiday” when the final judgement by the Supreme Court was made, but others at CUPE headquarters refused to comment on what they described as a “precedent setting case” as they had not yet reviewed the latest judgement.

City director of employment law George Monteith pointed out that “in fairness, they (meaning the union) have an obligation to provide fair representation to their members”!

(But an ordinary person will ask: at what point does `FAIR` dissolve into insanity? JUST HOW HUGE would be the damages levied against the city if they re-hired a convicted pedophile and he then proceeded to molest ANOTHER child on city property? And just how could city officials look the public in the eyes after allowing such a travesty of justice to occur?)

Levy then obtained this information from Bill Adams, city director of employee and labour relations- that as of January 2004 : ”there are 2,603 union driven grievances under way” and that “some of them involve employees convicted of criminal theft from the city”. But there is some good news-Levy was told by Adams that there were 3120 grievances at the same time period the previous year! (I say a drop from 3120 to 2603 is a nice reduction in the level of union madness!) Adams also explained that it costs $3,000.00 per DAY to fight a grievance at the arbitration stage-with the average `case` running about 12 days-and of course going to court would escalate the costs dramatically!

Adams also admitted that although none of the 2004 grievances were as serious as the pedophile case, he did admit that a number of those 2.603 grievances involved city workers CONVICTED of criminal THEFT of city property.

(I ask: WHY would unions think it would be morally right to FORCE the city to RE-HIRE criminals CONVICTED of theft of city property? Apparently union chiefs like the idea of having a `desperate` work force to manage-in other words the most dedicate and loyal union Hogs are those who cannot survive without the union and who owe the union leaders BIG favours!)

(From all this a cynical tax payer may easily conclude that the convenience of union members trumps any need for public safety/concern for child welfare or respect of tax payers money-but what else can we expect from a pack of Hogs who think they are entitled to the WORLD ON A PLATTER-delivered steaming hot to THEIR gravy train!)

(It will be interesting to see how Hogs `D` this story. Certainly they showed no shame over Walkerton-they insist that it is the fault of Mike Harris in spite of all the pieces of the disaster being put into place LONG before he appeared on the political scene. And of course the province had NO authority over Walkerton water dept or of the local union and Harris certainly had no legal right to fire Stan Kabel as Hogs `d`-mand that he should have.)

(Of course one has to ask if Hogs were so determined that somebody FIRE Stan Kabel then why didn’t they blame LIE-beral Jean Chretien for not stepping in? Why just Harris-and of course we know its because Chretien was a LIE-beral dispensing Hog gravy and Harris had pissed off Hogs by pinching pennies and limiting their gravy!)

(And speaking of Hogs `D`ing things-why don’t we ask just how it was that murderous drunk Stan Kabel KEPT his good union Hog status AFTER the Walkerton disaster and once the furor died down he got ANOTHER nice Hog job in a nearby municipality installing traffic signals! Come on now-which of you Hogs wants to step forward and explain which union executives and which local politicians thought it was a good idea to RE-HIRE Kabel?
https://globalnews.ca/news/3685527/what-happens-to-asylum-seekers-crossing-illegally-into-canada/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-us-border-illegal-border-crossings-1.3995768

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-us-asylum-seekers-explained-1.3994294

Please make yourself aware of the facts. Making unsubstantiated allegations through long-winded nonsense does nothing towards making anyone want to read your posts or to believe anything you post.

If you need any more information ......go to Google and pick several sites pertaining to your question and then JUDGE the one most reasonable if the information is the same from the majority posts it is probably the correct one/
 
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https://globalnews.ca/news/3685527/what-happens-to-asylum-seekers-crossing-illegally-into-canada/

Refugee influx: 5 things to know about illegal border crossings into Canada | CBC News

What happens when asylum seekers cross the Quebec-U.S. border illegally? | CBC News

Please make yourself aware of the facts. Making unsubstantiated allegations through long-winded nonsense does nothing towards making anyone want to read your posts or to believe anything you post.

If you need any more information ......go to Google and pick several sites pertaining to your question and then JUDGE the one most reasonable if the information is the same from the majority posts it is probably the correct one/
Actually he makes pertinent points if you filter out the redundancies.