Gun Control is Completely Useless.

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And here we go!


The Liberal plan to ban guns.


https://firearmrights.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019-backgrounder-guns-ENG-1.pdf


Among all the other bullshyte, way down at the bottom, we get this gem:


We will limit the glorification of violence, by creating regulations that impact the way firearms are advertised, marketed, and sold in Canada
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First say good bye to an armed people, then say good bye to freedom of speech, then say good bye to individual rights in general.


Don't say you were not warned.


The idiots are dancing with joy at the prospect of their own enslavement.


The left hates individual liberty......all of it.





 
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DaSleeper

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The NDP better watch how they vote on Gun bills, especially those in rural areas like all Northern Ontario north of the Mattawa river..
These were warned!
 
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Nope they just want to suck the West dry like the good old days, good times, good times, Northern Ont. want to separate from you, they must be traitors too eh?
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You got stupid if they think that "pure NDP orange" mixes with New Reform Party blue.

You want to be totally, utterly forgotten about forever, join up with an arrogant west that has a single generation of rich times left. It'll make the collapse of the Newsprint industry look like a little blip.
 
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Curious Cdn said:
You got stupid if they think that "pure NDP orange" mixes with New Reform Party blue.
You want to be totally, utterly forgotten about forever, join up with an arrogant west that has a single generation of rich times left. It'll make the collapse of the Newsprint industry look like a little blip.
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Throughout the region's history, there have been various movements proposing that the region secede from Ontario to form its own province.[18] The first such movement emerged in Sudbury in the 1890s, when the provincial government began taxing mines;[18] a second movement emerged following the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan in 1905.[18] In the 1940s, an organization called the New Province League formed to lobby for the creation of a new territory of "Aurora".[18]
In 1966, a committee of mayors from the region, comprising Max Silverman of Sudbury, G. W. Maybury of Kapuskasing, Ernest Reid of Fort William, Leo Del Villano of Timmins, Merle Dickerson of North Bay and Leo Foucault of Espanola, formed to study the feasibility of Northern Ontario forming a new province.[19]
The Northern Ontario Heritage Party advocated the creation of a separate province by dividing from Southern Ontario in the 1970s, although the party did not attract widespread electoral support.[20] A newer group, the Northern Ontario Secession Movement, began a similar campaign in 2006, but did not attract the same degree of attention.[21]
In 1999, the Northeastern Ontario Municipal Association, a committee consisting of the mayors of 14 Northern Ontario municipalities, wrote a letter to Prime Minister Jean Chrétien asking him to outline the necessary conditions for the region to secede from Ontario to form a new province.[22] This movement emerged as a reaction to the government of Mike Harris, whose policies were widely unpopular in the region even though Harris himself represented the Northern Ontario riding of Nipissing in the legislature.[22]
The Northern Ontario Heritage Party was reregistered in 2010, with a platform that did not call for full separation but instead supported a number of measures to increase the region's power within the province.[23] In 2016, the party began advocating for the full secession of Northern Ontario from the province,[24] but dropped separation from its platform again in 2018.
Northwestern Ontario
In 2006, some residents of Northwestern Ontario proposed that the region secede from Ontario to join Manitoba, due to the perception that the government of Ontario does not pay sufficient attention to the region's issues. One paper in Canadian Public Policy suggested the region merge with Manitoba to form a new province called "Mantario."[25]
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Ontario city wants to secede, join Manitoba

Northern Ontario's dream to secede, reborn: 'We’re treated like a colony'

“The Northern Ontario vision got lost,” he said in an interview in his home in North Bay, where he recalled getting into politics because of a power-tax plan. “I will go to jail before I pay heat and light tax to the Ontario government,” he recalls thinking.
So he called a meeting at the Golden Dragon restaurant in North Bay, and arrived to find people lined up down the street. Buoyed by their enthusiasm, he drove south and literally pitched a tent at Queen’s Park, saying he would not leave without meeting then Progressive Conservative Premier Bill Davis. Somehow, it worked.
“He damn near swallowed that cigar and he said, ‘Ed, you get a vote every four years,’” Deibel recalled.
That kind of condescension from a supercilious Torontonian power broker is the kind of thing that drives Northern resentment and dreams of secession. But though Deibel pitched serious plans about domestic resource processing, his party was seen as a protest alternative. Holliday actually wants to win the Northern ridings as a stepping stone to secession from Ontario, and professes to think he can.
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80% of your own Province want to separate from you that makes 75% of Canada's land mass 95% if you include Quebec want you gone, must all be traitors eh?
 
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Curious Cdn said:
I never thought of you as a Socialist, before.
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A co-worker of mine Len Wood, was running on the NDP ticket....so.... Better to vote for the devil you know.......


Well,....anyways...That was just before the Spruce falls mill buy-out, I got some provincial tax credits on money borrowed to buy shares in the mill.....
Bob Raye didn't do too bad himself.....because he brokered the deal between Kimberly Clark and Tembec....He became a director at tembec until he joined the Liberal party


And I madeTwenty bucks on every dollar invested


Still just withdrawing the minimum r. r. s. p. every year


So at that point in time voting orange was the thing to do.....


Did they buy my vote?
 
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A co-worker of mine was running on the NDP ticket....so.... Better to vote for the devil you know.......
Well,....anyways...That was just before the Spruce falls mill buy-out, I got some provincial tax credits on money borrowed to buy shares in the mill.....
Bob Raye didn't do too bad himself.....because he brokered the deal between Kimberly Clark and Tembec....He became a director at tembec until he joined the Liberal party
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My wife was working as a cardiology RPN during Rae's government. She got "Rae dayed" ... not paid for honest work days (nurses work hard) several times and now spits when she hears "Rae".

She really does!

Like a Llama!
 
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Curious Cdn said:
My wife was working as a cardiology RPN during Rae's government. She got "Rae dayed" ... not paid for honest work days (nurses work hard) several times and now spits when she hears "Rae".

She really does!

Like a Llama!
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My sister........ last name Guenette, was an R.N. in a Toronto hospital in those days......the only thing she complained about was taxes
 
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The fact is that it isn't that guns are bad, it's that some people are bad. No gov't rules can control what people think or have much impact over people's behaviours and no amount of police can effectively prevent crimes from occurring. So we simply have to deal with not allowing the bad people to have guns and catching those bad people after they've done some bad. Prohibition just doesn't effing work.
 
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TOWHEY: 30 years after Ecole Polytechnique, gun control has failed

Mark Towhey





Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife Sophie Gregoire Trudeau lay white roses in front of a photo showing the 14 women who were killed during a vigil on top of Mount Royal marking the thirtieth anniversary of the mass shooting at Ecole Polytechnique, Dec. 6, 2019. (REUTERS/Christinne Muschi)

Thirty years ago Friday, Marc Lepine used a rifle to massacre 14 women at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal. Another 10 women were wounded.


It was an egregious act of terror aimed directly at women. Specifically, feminists. We know this, because the terrorist himself said so in a suicide note he left behind.


Lepine was, perhaps, Canada’s first Incel terrorist.


It was also a watershed moment where feminism and pacifism converged and fuelled a new gun control movement driven by the passions of aggrieved and the political savvy of the feminist movement. It became a powerful political lobby that has driven change in Canada’s gun laws ever since.


Some of those changes have probably been for the good. Most of those changes have been pointless. Some of them have been harmful. We may argue about which was which, but we must all recognize one fact.




None of the gun control measures enacted since Lepine’s 1989 massacre have reduced gun violence in Canada.

In 1989, the Justice Department reported 218 firearm homicides in Canada – based on police reports which, it notes, tend to over-report homicides. That’s about 0.8 gun murders per 100,000 Canadians.


In 2016, Statistics Canada reported a rate of 0.72 gun murders per 100,000 Canadians – based on vital statistics, which tend to classify fewer deaths as homicides than do police.


In other words, after 30 years of increased gun control, the gun-murder rate is effectively unchanged.


Lepine used a Ruger Mini-14 rifle he bought legally at a sporting goods store. It was semi-automatic rifle, meaning once it was loaded and “cocked,” it would fire one bullet with each pull of the trigger – until the magazine that holds the bullets was empty. It used a magazine that held up to 30 bullets – so he could fire 30 shots before reloading.


The Mini-14 was a civilianized sport rifle based on the M-14 rifle used by the U.S. Army early in the Vietnam War. It was a very popular rifle with hunters, rural and indigenous Canadians. Popular, because it was affordable, easy to shoot, easy to clean and maintain, very sturdy and extremely reliable.


It still is.


You see, 30 years after the Montreal massacre, the rifle Lepine used remains available for purchase in most Canadian gun stores. Similar rifles have been used in a number of Canadian murders, including the 2014 shooting of five Mounties in Moncton.
On the other hand, rifles based on the popular and affordable ArmaLite Rifle 15 mechanism (AR-15) have never been used in a mass shooting in Canada. Yet, there are increasing calls to ban them outright.


Why ban one and not the other? No one knows.
It’s not about reason. It’s about emotion.


AR-15’s tend to be black and scary-looking. Most M-14 variants have wooden stocks and look like hunting rifles. Maybe that’s part of it. Both are equally lethal.


Canada’s gun laws have always been based on emotion.


It’s impossible to argue with emotion. For someone who’s lost a friend or loved one to gun violence, visceral emotion shapes their view of the world. They deserve sympathy. But, their emotion doesn’t make them experts. And it doesn’t mean they’re right.
The federal government has capitulated many times to the emotional demands of gun-control advocates. But those capitulations have never reduced gun violence. Not once.


Now, on the 30th Anniversary of the massacre at Montreal’s Ecole Polytechnique, there will be enormous emotional pressure on the Trudeau government to go further. To do something. About guns.


But, if Trudeau acts – as he has so far proposed to act – based entirely on emotion, rather than on fact and reason, then his newest gun control measures will be as ineffective as Canada’s past gun control efforts.


And criminals will continue to murder Canadians in the streets.


https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...polytechnique-gun-control-has-failed#comments
 
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