Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[spilledthebeer]

Here.

Learn something about your history (assuming g that you really are a Canadian).

People didn't just make up ad-hoc militias and lynch mobs in Canada. It was and still is highly controlled by the Crown and the "freedom" to do whatever-you-want has never existed in this country.

Militia Act 1855:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1855

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/militia-acts

You really don't know our history, do you?

Are you even Canadian?

You still didnt prove anything about B.C. actually buying some submarines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Considering the entire Royal Cdn Navy consisted of either 4 or 6 obsolete destroyers in 1914 its sounds highly unlikely B.C. would buy submarines in 1912!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We require some proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spilledthebeer]

You still didnt prove anything about B.C. actually buying some submarines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Considering the entire Royal Cdn Navy consisted of either 4 or 6 obsolete destroyers in 1914 its sounds highly unlikely B.C. would buy submarines in 1912!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We require some proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


An unverified entry you put into Wikipedia really does not count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Curious Cdn]

AND NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


An unverified entry you put into Wikipedia really does not count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://espritdecorps.ca/gordon/2015...-the-strange-tale-of-canadas-first-submarines

CC-1 and CC-2 were Holland boats built in Seattle and requisitioned by the RCN at the beginning of WWI.

 

[spilledthebeer]

http://espritdecorps.ca/gordon/2015...-the-strange-tale-of-canadas-first-submarines

CC-1 and CC-2 were Holland boats built in Seattle and requisitioned by the RCN at the beginning of WWI.

So WW1 WAS ACTUALLY STARTING at the point the B. C. govt decided to buy the subs...................and worry about WHO would pay the bills later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Austrian Arch Duke had already been assassinated and the ultimatums delivered ......................with nobody believing peace would break back out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sub purchase was NOT some kind of long term plan for defense.....................................


it was nothing but a LAST SECOND PANIC to get something useful out there -by B.C. govt who KNEW they would be on their own for many months or even years into the war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it represents typical Cdn military planning- B.C. did not have a any naval crews and certainly DID NOT have any personnel trined on subs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


B.C. bought a pair of useless weapons they did not know how to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And how exposed would B.C. have been if an enemy fleet approached??????????????????????


We could talk about that WW2 Japanese sub that surfaced near the Stanley Park beach and proceeded to shoot up the light house marking the entrance to the harbour - with NOTHING AVAILABLE to shoot back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its just the usual LIE-beral lack of interest in anything related to national security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Curious Cdn]

So WW1 WAS ACTUALLY STARTING at the point the B. C. govt decided to buy the subs...................and worry about WHO would pay the bills later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Austrian Arch Duke had already been assassinated and the ultimatums delivered ......................with nobody believing peace would break back out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sub purchase was NOT some kind of long term plan for defense.....................................
it was nothing but a LAST SECOND PANIC to get something useful out there -by B.C. govt who KNEW they would be on their own for many months or even years into the war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it represents typical Cdn military planning- B.C. did not have a any naval crews and certainly DID NOT have any personnel trined on subs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B.C. bought a pair of useless weapons they did not know how to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And how exposed would B.C. have been if an enemy fleet approached??????????????????????
We could talk about that WW2 Japanese sub that surfaced near the Stanley Park beach and proceeded to shoot up the light house marking the entrance to the harbour - with NOTHING AVAILABLE to shoot back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its just the usual LIE-beral lack of interest in anything related to national security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, it was a successful acquisition! The Armed Forces could learn a thing or two about procurement from that old BC government. They assessed that they needed to do something and they did it. What a novel concept.

 

[taxslave]

So WW1 WAS ACTUALLY STARTING at the point the B. C. govt decided to buy the subs...................and worry about WHO would pay the bills later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Austrian Arch Duke had already been assassinated and the ultimatums delivered ......................with nobody believing peace would break back out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sub purchase was NOT some kind of long term plan for defense.....................................
it was nothing but a LAST SECOND PANIC to get something useful out there -by B.C. govt who KNEW they would be on their own for many months or even years into the war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it represents typical Cdn military planning- B.C. did not have a any naval crews and certainly DID NOT have any personnel trined on subs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B.C. bought a pair of useless weapons they did not know how to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And how exposed would B.C. have been if an enemy fleet approached??????????????????????
We could talk about that WW2 Japanese sub that surfaced near the Stanley Park beach and proceeded to shoot up the light house marking the entrance to the harbour - with NOTHING AVAILABLE to shoot back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its just the usual LIE-beral lack of interest in anything related to national security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That wasn't the only place. My father was cruising timber on Brooks Peninsula at the tail end of the war and saw Jap sub crews on the beach taking on fresh water and probably a few deer. SInce they had two 3030 hunting rifles between then they decided to do a tactical withdrawal a couple of miles inland.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Hey, it was a successful acquisition! The Armed Forces could learn a thing or two about procurement from that old BC government. They assessed that they needed to do something and they did it. What a novel concept.

OH CURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You are spewing that delusional SH+T yet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That the B.C. govt chose to PANIC and grab a couple of Yankee subs that had apparently been built on speculation in hope of getting a Yankee navy contract - without any real regard for price or performance history of the builders IS NOT MUCH OF A LESSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HISTORY HAS PROVEN YOU CAN BUY PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING IF YOU THROW OUT ENOUGH CASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And THAT history of last second panic buying has characterized All Cdn military history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the B.C. "purchase" of subs proves it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it proves how SCREWED UP was Cdn military planning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Some ELEMENTARY CALCULATIONS with a map should have convinced Cdn naval people mockingly referred to as "planners" that a WW1 German raid on the west coast was wildly UNLIKELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those old coal fired ships simply did NOT have the range to reach Vancouver- not when you consider the serious shortage of bases friendly to Germans and able to supply good quality coal on the east side of the Pacific!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes- a WW1 German raider did operate in the southern and eastern Pacific for a time and the Brits cornered that light cruiser due to that previously mentioned coal shortage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So it is most likely BC was simply buying the subs on behalf of Britain anyway - a detail that history has apparently forgotten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That the subs were so swiftly transferred to Britain and sailed out of the Pacific suggests I am right on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As for any lesson for our current leaders....................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ignoring the military for decades and then suddenly throwing out gobs of cash for any crap weapons that are AVAILABLE is exactly WHY so many Cdns and others got killed in WW1 and WW2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



German artillery was much superior to French and British designs during much of WW1 - with rather better range, larger calibre and greater accuracy - the allies had to play catch up while their troops lacked fire support!!!!!!!!!!!


And in WW2 - German tanks were very much superior to allied designs with bigger guns, better armour and much greater fire resistance- and western allies never did catch up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Allied forces were rudely surprised by the range of enemy torpedoes - twice the range and greater accuracy of western weapons - andallies had to play costly catch up yet again!!!!!!!!!!!


Superior technology enabled small groups of fascists to dominate much larger groups of BADLY ARMED western troops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the influence of technology on the battlefield now is greater than ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what is the grand long term LIE-beral plan for Cdn military???????????????????????????


A couple of examples reveal the LONG TERM LIE-BERAL PLAN:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


LIE-beral Chretien sending Cdns to the deserts of Afghanistan wearing JUNGLE CAMOuFLAGE uniforms and riding TOTALLY EXPOSED IN UNARMOURED VEHICLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could look at the LIE-beral "interest" in armoured vehicles- LIE-berals have bought some nifty new ones with transmission issues and engine fires and they also apparently lack the weapon and armour carrying capacity of the older LAV 3`s that served well in Afghanistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals are trying to give away our collection of antique Leopard tanks but nobody wants the relics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Naturally LIE-berals have a plan to replace the tanks..................some day................maybe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Should we ask if the Australians have worn out tanks for sale along with their OLD F-18`s?????????????????????????



And LIE-beral refusal to buy any kind of new fighter aircraft - to replace worn out relics that have been kept flying for over a decade by cannibalizing older wrecks says LIE-berals DO NOT WANT AN AIR FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While at the same time - LIE-BERALS are deliberately SCREWING UP AND DELAYING the purchase of new ships for the navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When the flagship of your fleet cannot take a two hour cruise on a sunny afternoon without the engines bursting into flames and the ship being towed home in smoking ruins then it is clear you have NO deep water navy to speak of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral handling of the destroyer "purchase" indicates LIE-berals are no more interested in warships than in fighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy continues his fathers dream of a creating a COMPLETELY DISARMED CANADA that will abandon its allies and SURRENDER to the Soviets of Russia and China and Iran at the first sign of trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JamesBondo]

If he shot and killed another human being like that in this country, a court might find him to be a criminal.

clearly, you need to learn about canadian laws

Defence of Person
Marginal note: Defence — use or threat of force

34 (1) A person is not guilty of an offence if

(a) they believe on reasonable grounds that force is being used against them or another person or that a threat of force is being made against them or another person;

(b) the act that constitutes the offence is committed for the purpose of defending or protecting themselves or the other person from that use or threat of force; and

(c) the act committed is reasonable in the circumstances.

 

[spilledthebeer]

clearly, you need to learn about canadian laws

POOR STUPID BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Still spouting his NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A Cdn who shoots another person HAD BETTER MAKE DAMNED SURE HE GETS A TRIAL BY JURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A Cdn CAN justify a shooting to a jury of ordinary Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But THERE IS NO WAY a LIE-beral hug a thug judge will buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are altering the laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to make it EASIER to convict farmers like Gerald Stanley who accidentally shot Colton Boushie while Boushie was prowling on the Stanley farm- looking for stuff to STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Colpy]

POOR STUPID BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Still spouting his NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A Cdn who shoots another person HAD BETTER MAKE DAMNED SURE HE GETS A TRIAL BY JURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A Cdn CAN justify a shooting to a jury of ordinary Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But THERE IS NO WAY a LIE-beral hug a thug judge will buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are altering the laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to make it EASIER to convict farmers like Gerald Stanley who accidentally shot Colton Boushie while Boushie was prowling on the Stanley farm- looking for stuff to STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In that entire screaming mess of a post, only the last two sentences are true.


And I used to teach this stuff.

 

[pgs]

So WW1 WAS ACTUALLY STARTING at the point the B. C. govt decided to buy the subs...................and worry about WHO would pay the bills later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Austrian Arch Duke had already been assassinated and the ultimatums delivered ......................with nobody believing peace would break back out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sub purchase was NOT some kind of long term plan for defense.....................................


it was nothing but a LAST SECOND PANIC to get something useful out there -by B.C. govt who KNEW they would be on their own for many months or even years into the war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it represents typical Cdn military planning- B.C. did not have a any naval crews and certainly DID NOT have any personnel trined on subs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


B.C. bought a pair of useless weapons they did not know how to use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And how exposed would B.C. have been if an enemy fleet approached??????????????????????


We could talk about that WW2 Japanese sub that surfaced near the Stanley Park beach and proceeded to shoot up the light house marking the entrance to the harbour - with NOTHING AVAILABLE to shoot back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its just the usual LIE-beral lack of interest in anything related to national security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No that incident happened nowhere near Stanley Park , or Vancouver harbour .

 

[Curious Cdn]

That wasn't the only place. My father was cruising timber on Brooks Peninsula at the tail end of the war and saw Jap sub crews on the beach taking on fresh water and probably a few deer. SInce they had two 3030 hunting rifles between then they decided to do a tactical withdrawal a couple of miles inland.

The father of an old sailing companion of mine was in the WW II Kriegsmarine and served on a couple of U Boats as a medic.(He miraculously survived by happenstance but neither of his boats made it home).

He claimed that he and several of his shipmates went ashore in Halifax as a lark (intel gathering?) and took in a movie. He even kept the ticket stub as proof that they'd been there.

 

[Colpy]

The father of an old sailing companion of mine was in the WW II Kriegsmarine and served on a couple of U Boats as a medic.(He miraculously survived by happenstance but neither of his boats made it home).

He claimed that he and several of his shipmates went ashore in Halifax as a lark (intel gathering?) and took in a movie. He even kept the ticket stub as proof that they'd been there.

Yep. Here in Saint John a German tourist way back in the 1970s claimed to have been here before. He had come ashore from a sub with some compatriots and visited Station Street...........which was infamous for the brothels there.......

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yep. Here in Saint John a German tourist way back in the 1970s claimed to have been here before. He had come ashore from a sub with some compatriots and visited Station Street...........which was infamous for the brothels there.......

I believe it.

 

[spilledthebeer]

No that incident happened nowhere near Stanley Park , or Vancouver harbour .

Oh .......the history books state light house in Stanley Park shelled by Japanese Sub......................do you say they are wrong?????????



Is it bad history or your bad memory????????????????????????????????


Or is it lazy news people who reported on a light house in Stanley Park when it may have been further up the coast??????????????


In any case there is various reference to a Japanese sub shelling a Cdn lighthouse in assorted history books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wikipedia -which I believe is a BAD source of information -says a Japanese sub shelled a light house on Estevan Point on Vancouver Island in 1942...................................


Wikipedia is a BAD source of information because it is open to people making posts while working from FAULTY MEMORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wikipedia is NOT AS ACCURATE as a history book due to so many posts being the result of "memory" rather than full research !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And news media and history books from that time state light house in Stanley Park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe we should ask if the location of the shelled light house was moved closer to Vancouver by propaganda types to scare people and motivate them to support the war effort?????????????

 

[pgs]

Oh .......the history books state light house in Stanley Park shelled by Japanese Sub......................do you say they are wrong?????????



Is it bad history or your bad memory????????????????????????????????


Or is it lazy news people who reported on a light house in Stanley Park when it may have been further up the coast??????????????


In any case there is various reference to a Japanese sub shelling a Cdn lighthouse in assorted history books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wikipedia -which I believe is a BAD source of information -says a Japanese sub shelled a light house on Estevan Point on Vancouver Island in 1942...................................


Wikipedia is a BAD source of information because it is open to people making posts while working from FAULTY MEMORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wikipedia is NOT AS ACCURATE as a history book due to so many posts being the result of "memory" rather than full research !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And news media and history books from that time state light house in Stanley Park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe we should ask if the location of the shelled light house was moved closer to Vancouver by propaganda types to scare people and motivate them to support the war effort?????????????

Wikipedia happens to be correct in this instance . Stanley Park was not shelled , it happened to be well defended with armaments well intrenched at Prospect Point .

 

[spilledthebeer]

In that entire screaming mess of a post, only the last two sentences are true.


And I used to teach this stuff.

From various remarks made on this site Colpy- it is my understanding that you are a Yankee................


As such your interpretation of law regarding things like self defense would be rather different than the Cdn version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In addition your profile photo shows an older guy............so I suggest you have not kept up with the latest CANADIAN LIE-beral developments!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe you did not hear about the restaurant owner in Toronto who was arrested for ASSAULT a couple of years back???????????



The owner has a restaurant west of Young St on Bloor..........and parks his car behind the restaurant in an alleyway.............


And of course because the area is high class- lots of fancy shops- it is also very popular with pan handlers and homeless types!!!!!!!


And owners car has been broken into multiple times and he is pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So this day he parks in the alley and starts carrying in some supplies- and leaves the car unlocked..........................because he is coming right back again............................


But some addict spots the car and figures it is safe to ransack and rob- there is food and such in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Owner comes back and finds addict in the car..............and there is shoving and shouting.........................and owner grabs up a bag of assorted Indian spices............including PEPPER.....................and throws the bag in the guys face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Addict runs off screaming for vengeance..................................and goes to the cops to complain of being ATTACKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And cops arrest the restaurant owner for assault on the addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the prosecutor is focused on the issue of thrown spices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals do not give a sh+t about food and assorted stuff being STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All the LIE-berals care about is that the restaurant owner SHOULD HAVE - IN THEIR VIEW - simply scared the addict off by shouting at him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals BLAME THE OWNER for parking his car in a high crime area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ITS THE OWNERS FAULT that criminals - that LIE-berals are refusing to deal with- are robbing people like the owner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are working VERY HARD to persuade Cdns NOT to defend themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to make it ILLEGAL to take action to defend your stuff - even though LIE-berals have literally handcuffed the cops so we have no real protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals expect us to shrug off robbery and vandalism as if it were no more than a blizzard or flood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want us to shrug at criminal behaviour - and resign ourselves to occasional small losses and to putting in insurance claims for big ticket items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berasl are DEDICATED to FORCING RADICAL SHIFTS in social responsibility for many things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is why the Toronto city council FINES property owners who do not swiftly paint over graffiti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You might ask why Silly Hall does not direct police resources towards catching graffiti artists since Silly Hall finds graffiti so offensive??????????????????



The answer is SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Silly Hall does not wish to "waste" its gravy on trivia like fighting crime and vandalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is much easier for LIE-berals to blame the public for failing to "maintain" their properties in a suitable way than it is to chase vandals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The same rule of putting responsibility on the public pertains to issues like the addict stealing stuff from cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In LIE-beral eyes- the addict is a VICTIM and suffering from illness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals blame the owner for assuming unwisely that he could leave the car unlocked and untended for a few seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals flat out REFUSE to take action to protect us and our property!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals certainly REFUSE to make serious efforts to discourage drug smugglers as it would cost them to much gravy!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals absolutely REFUSE to force treatment on addicts - that would be UNDEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is much more politically correct to leave addicts roaming the city like LOCUSTS - seeking out food and drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-berals UTTERLY SCORN any sort of self defense action as "un-Cdn"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the restaurant owner charged with assault for "seasoning" the addict - who had MULTIPLE arrests for previous thefts and assorted offenses????????????



The owner was dealt with under the usual SLIMY LIE-beral plea bargain crap that is covered by privacy laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals do not consider it any of our business how the case was disposed of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral values are NOT supported by the majority of Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is just too bad that over 55 percent of the public is so disgusted with all govt that they do NOT want to bother voting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But that deal may be changing this time around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have PISSED OFF a whole lot of people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spilledthebeer]

Wikipedia happens to be correct in this instance . Stanley Park was not shelled , it happened to be well defended with armaments well intrenched at Prospect Point .

So you are stating that the news media of the day simply named the light house in Stanley because they could not be bothered looking up the real location on a map??????????????????


Or that LIE-beral propaganda "changed" the location for some reason?????????????


What ever.....................even wikipedia says a west coast light house was shelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spilledthebeer]

So you are stating that the news media of the day simply named the light house in Stanley because they could not be bothered looking up the real location on a map??????????????????


Or that LIE-beral propaganda "changed" the location for some reason?????????????


What ever.....................even wikipedia says a west coast light house was shelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And of course the light house discussion BEGAN as part of comment related to comments critical of LIE-beral national security issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With Cdn national defense at its LOWEST EBB EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Never before have we spent such a LOW proportion of GDP on defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And never before has producing new modern weapons taken such a LONG SLOW LEAD TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And never before- not since the days of the Ross Rifle- has a Cdn govt bought such low quality military junk as our LIE-beral overlords are doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And never before have we allowed so many people with RADICAL VIEWS - that are HOSTILE to all things western - come to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Never before have we had so many drug addicts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And never before have we handed out such LIGHT SENTENCES for criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh sure- judges issue lengthy SOUNDING sentences!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But in the old days the sentences were not concurrent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the old days- if you were convicted of 3 crimes and got three sentences then YOU SERVED ALL THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One sentence AFTER the other - not all at the same time as now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Not like now when you earn 3 years jail time for one offense, 2 years for something else and 5 years for another issue...............in the old days you would serve ten years for those multiple offenses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But now you serve all 3 sentences at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Concurrently!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your ten years of jail time magically morphs into FIVE years - for the most serious of 3 crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The other TWO CONVICTIONS are essentially FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And then LIE-berals let you out after serving ONE THIRD of the five years -as long as you have not stabbed a guard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All this OFF EASY CRAP is LOATHSOME ENOUGH - and we have yet to discuss PLEA BARGAINING that makes major crimes into minor crimes and makes minor crimes completely DISAPPEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals wonder why more Cdns are getting angry with prosecutors who attack ordinary citizens who are merely protecting their property from GOONS that LIE-berals REFUSE to do anything about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Colpy]

From various remarks made on this site Colpy- it is my understanding that you are a Yankee................


As such your interpretation of law regarding things like self defense would be rather different than the Cdn version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In addition your profile photo shows an older guy............so I suggest you have not kept up with the latest CANADIAN LIE-beral developments!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe you did not hear about the restaurant owner in Toronto who was arrested for ASSAULT a couple of years back???????????



The owner has a restaurant west of Young St on Bloor..........and parks his car behind the restaurant in an alleyway.............


And of course because the area is high class- lots of fancy shops- it is also very popular with pan handlers and homeless types!!!!!!!


And owners car has been broken into multiple times and he is pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So this day he parks in the alley and starts carrying in some supplies- and leaves the car unlocked..........................because he is coming right back again............................


But some addict spots the car and figures it is safe to ransack and rob- there is food and such in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Owner comes back and finds addict in the car..............and there is shoving and shouting.........................and owner grabs up a bag of assorted Indian spices............including PEPPER.....................and throws the bag in the guys face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Addict runs off screaming for vengeance..................................and goes to the cops to complain of being ATTACKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And cops arrest the restaurant owner for assault on the addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the prosecutor is focused on the issue of thrown spices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals do not give a sh+t about food and assorted stuff being STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All the LIE-berals care about is that the restaurant owner SHOULD HAVE - IN THEIR VIEW - simply scared the addict off by shouting at him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals BLAME THE OWNER for parking his car in a high crime area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ITS THE OWNERS FAULT that criminals - that LIE-berals are refusing to deal with- are robbing people like the owner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are working VERY HARD to persuade Cdns NOT to defend themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to make it ILLEGAL to take action to defend your stuff - even though LIE-berals have literally handcuffed the cops so we have no real protection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals expect us to shrug off robbery and vandalism as if it were no more than a blizzard or flood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want us to shrug at criminal behaviour - and resign ourselves to occasional small losses and to putting in insurance claims for big ticket items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berasl are DEDICATED to FORCING RADICAL SHIFTS in social responsibility for many things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is why the Toronto city council FINES property owners who do not swiftly paint over graffiti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You might ask why Silly Hall does not direct police resources towards catching graffiti artists since Silly Hall finds graffiti so offensive??????????????????



The answer is SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Silly Hall does not wish to "waste" its gravy on trivia like fighting crime and vandalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is much easier for LIE-berals to blame the public for failing to "maintain" their properties in a suitable way than it is to chase vandals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The same rule of putting responsibility on the public pertains to issues like the addict stealing stuff from cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In LIE-beral eyes- the addict is a VICTIM and suffering from illness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals blame the owner for assuming unwisely that he could leave the car unlocked and untended for a few seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals flat out REFUSE to take action to protect us and our property!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals certainly REFUSE to make serious efforts to discourage drug smugglers as it would cost them to much gravy!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals absolutely REFUSE to force treatment on addicts - that would be UNDEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is much more politically correct to leave addicts roaming the city like LOCUSTS - seeking out food and drugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-berals UTTERLY SCORN any sort of self defense action as "un-Cdn"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the restaurant owner charged with assault for "seasoning" the addict - who had MULTIPLE arrests for previous thefts and assorted offenses????????????



The owner was dealt with under the usual SLIMY LIE-beral plea bargain crap that is covered by privacy laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals do not consider it any of our business how the case was disposed of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral values are NOT supported by the majority of Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is just too bad that over 55 percent of the public is so disgusted with all govt that they do NOT want to bother voting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But that deal may be changing this time around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have PISSED OFF a whole lot of people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, I was born in New Brunswick, and I've lived in New Brunswick for my entire life..........except for a few months I lived in Montreal.


You don't get more Canadian than me.


Secondly, the only changes made to the Criminal Code in this area in the last 20 years were made under Harper, in which he made self-defense and citizen's arrest easier.


Thirdly.....was the guy in Toronto convicted? I doubt it.


Fourth, forcing treatment on addicts is a complete waste of time. If they are not at the point of wanting treatment, it will fail.


You are way off-base on this one.