Human euthanization I think is what is trying to be conveyed, verses letting the bear suffur.
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Human euthanization I think is what is trying to be conveyed, verses letting the bear suffur.
I have been reading about how so many people take wilderness trips, encroaching on the few places left on earth where other species are trying to survive. Hey folks how twisted is that? Keep it up and there will be no lions, bears, wolves, to worry about trying to protect the little environment they have left!!
What comes next?? Demanding to be allowed to camp in the lions cage at the zoo over night with a gun?? No more common sense left, and that makes me very sad.
What comes next?? Demanding to be allowed to camp in the lions cage at the zoo over night with a gun?? No more common sense left, and that makes me very sad.
I don't buy into post hoc justifications. Confirmation bias is far too human a failing.
eh?? Euthanization, just wish it was that easy for humans.. have cancer, or AID's.. why suffer.. I know I would rather die.. same for an animal in pain that can't remain free, starving..
Thanks for the red! It makes my point perfectly since you did wish someone to die by a gun, then attempted to qualify your faux pas by adding in "needlessly shooting animals", based on zero actual knowledge of the incident along with obvious zero knowledge of the natural world, just something you read.
Carry on:lol:
This wasn't euthanisation. Saying that the bear was sick anyways is a post hoc justification for killing the bear in the heat of the moment. A moment that could have been avoided.
Euthanisation occurs here in the Netherlands. Saying that was euthanasia makes a mockery of the actual safeguards that are in place.
Well if you feel so adamant about the cause of population reduction, maybe you should contact this Dutch scientist, just make sure they test the virus out on you first..
Dutch Scientists Create Highly Contagious Super-Influenza Virus | Ghost Theory
Nothing in my post implied that I would do anything with my guns other than not shoot animals needlessly. Implying that I think a person would better shoot themself than shoot an animal needlessly says absolutely nothing about what I do with the guns that I own.
There was absolutely nothing to know about the situation. The bear was sick? Irrelevant. It didn't matter to the shooter and unrelatedely it doesn't matter to the ethics of what happened.
You may be right, but you nor I was there.. so even though I hate to see an animal killed, in particular a domestic animal dependant on humans.. I will have to say an injured animal is better dead than suffering.
That said, I am not an advocate of hunting unless you are in a situation where you have no choice to do so,to survive.
The usual mediocre one liners signifying nothing. Your N. de P. is an insult to decent Canadians. It is okay to like to hunt but trying to make the right to indulge it into something of an epiphany is sinful. You are one twisted BSing fart.
We agree on the injured animal part. Apparently condors are really in desperate straights in California because they wind up eating lead bullets out of animals that get away from the hunters and die on their own. That's an all round tragedy right there, and some severe irresponsibility on the part of those hunters.
The bear was shot because it was approaching a small girl, that is how it was framed and that is what I was arguing against. The rangers or someone else saying the bear was sick after inspecting the corpse doesn't change the parameters of the situation in the least. This situation is easily avoided: stay close to your children when you go out in the wild, better yet, don't go out in the wild with small children.
You see, in that case the Ranger was correct.. It would not have made a big difference if there was a small child there or not..the bear would have attacked a human of any size.
The verification that the bear was sick and injured, backs up what I am trying to explain. An injured animal can not hunt game and will look for an easy meal.. unfortunalty us humans are that easy meal..
Generally, bears will not attack a human and will run from us unless it feels threatened, has cubs or in this care injured and starving.
It's very sad situation, but the Ranger was correct... unfortunaltley.
Whoo hoo another red! You know you are over the target when you start taking flack.
To confirm your worst fears....... i have been an outdoorsman for 60 years. Ranging from stints on a trapline in northern Alberta, providing meat for my family and a number of disabled and disadvantaged people and seniors, to many years as an Alberta Fish and game assoc executive, teaching the original hunter training course. Many years as a class A guide and Outfitter. Farrier work. Actively ranching at the same time so animal husbandry played a large part. I enjoyed the hell out of all of it.
I would bet much money that my knowledge of the wild and tame animal world eclipses yours dramatically but i don't give a chit actually and know also that educating ignorant people is futile as your reference to "ethics" is a stab in the dark. Have a nice day.
In your case can we just thow the key away for stupidity.. :roll:
If you're going to try and take the high road suddenly, you had better check your past posts on the same thread.. :lol:
No, the only thing that the hypothetical ranger did was to say that the animal was sick. As a post hoc justification it is questionable at best. The bear was already dead, maybe they just wanted everyone to feel better about it, so the ranger ended up lying to everyone.
If I shoot a random person and then after the fact find out by chance that they were on their way to bomb a school, I am still a murderer. Post hoc justifications are not defenses. The question is, could this situation have been avoided? As framed, it could have been avoided.
You aren't very good with logic are you? First some random syllogism about me being the sort of gun owner that would shoot a person that makes no sense. Then this appeal to authority. Not sure where you learned that bragging was a good way to make a point.
You know absolutely nothing about me, but insist that your knowledge eclipses mine? What hubris. You sure do like to strut around like a peacock.