Guergis speaks out...
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I'm sure Harper is too. Because if the RCMP have nothing to say, then he's left dangling...
... unless of course the opposition come to his rescue by engaging in their own foot in mouth tactics as they often do.
It's pretty sad when what usually saves our politicians from falling as a result of a faux pas is that the opposition stoops even lower.
So Harper's first line of defense is that the RCMP vindicate him with some criminal charges laid against Guergis. It still won't excuse what he did, but it could help somewhat in that people will figure that though he'd ruined her life, at least she did turn out guilty.
Failing that, he's not lost yet. The opposition could come to his rescue too, and that wouldn't surprise me one bit (foot in mouth seems to be contagious on Parliament Hill).
Any smart MP will keep his mouth shut and let Harper sink on this. But my bet is some idiot in the opposition will bite and sink along with harper if not even save him.
Not really. A civil court would have to decide whether or not he acted with intent, and knowingly did so with out proof. Until then it's as speculative as whether Guergis is guilty of any wrong doing.
:roll:
And Harper. Harper is the big fish, she and hubby are little fish. She's possibly lying through her teeth, but that is a moot point- her electorate can deal with that. Harper should p*ss or get off the pot. It's only decent when you can someone to give them a letter stating why they are no longer employed. If he thinks she did something criminal he should charge her and be a man about it or at the very least tell her "I'm having you investigated by the R.C.M.P. for such and such skulduggery".
Harper is chicken sh*t. :smile:
.. And if Guergis is guilty? I'm guessing that you'll find a way to twist the notion that somebody else is responsible... Here's a thought, in the event that Guergis was the architect of her own fate, maybe you can make an argument that the LoC is responsible as they set the standard with Adscam, Shawinigate, etc.
We wouldn't want her to accept any responsibility her own actions/choices or anything now, would we?
Don't cabinet members sit at the will of the PM? He can give one the boot whenever he wishes, for no reason if he wants.
Yep, that's how you win elections.:roll:
Perhaps the PM should explain it to the voters.....that is who he represents.
This Conservative Prime Minister just proved that he can't lead.
Time for a new leader and my choice is Kory Teneycke he got the stones that Harper lacks.
Time for a new leader and my choice is Kory Teneycke he got the stones that Harper lacks.
When did I ever say she's innocent? I'm just saying Harper would have been wise to remove her from Cabinet, turn the evidence over to the police, and then reveal only that she's leaving cabinet for personal reasons. Then we'd hear no more of it until the RCMP should say something and if that never happens, then that's that. But when he opened his mouth and revealed possible criminal acts, he essentially pt his fate in the hands of the RCMP. If they say nothing, he sinks; if they make an arrest, he saves some face. Had he not revealed the reason for her dismissal, then he would not have had to worry about that.
And by the way, you're just revealing more partisanship. Is it necessary for me to be a member of the LoC to criticize Harper? Honestly, I've not voted in a LoC member yet, though of course if a future LoC candidate in my riding showed some brain and heart, maybe I would vote for him. But you've just revealed your bias in assuming that because I'm so critical of Harper that I'm a card-carrying LoC member. By the way, though I've never voted for a CPC member yet either, regardless of wht harper does, that would not stop me from voting n a smart CPC member in my ridng. My criticism is with Harper, not the CPC. Why do you insist on making every thing a party issue?I probably won't vote CPC next election only because the current MP of rmy riding who is CPC is an idiot and he's likely to run come next election. Now if he retires and is replaced, who knows. harper is not in y riding and it's up to his riding to decide whether or not to keep him. I have no say in that.
He did tell her he he informed the RCMP. Whether he gave the details is unknown. He says yes, she says no. The real issue is that he revealed to the public the reason why he canned her. He did not have to do that. He could have left the RCMP deal with that.
If I should fire an employee, I do not tell everyone else that he's been fired, let alone why. If he's committed a crime, I turn it over to the police, but again I leave it to the police to decide whether to announce this. It's not up to me to ruin another person's reputation. the law decides that.
Absolutely. but he doesn't open his yap and point out possible criminal actions when the police has not even spoken yet. It was none of our business why he booted her, and he should have kept his yap shut there.
This Conservative Prime Minister just proved that he can't lead.
Time for a new leader and my choice is Kory Teneycke he got the stones that Harper lacks.
As far as Conservative Party members are concerned, if Scott Reid were running in my riding, I'd likely consider him:
Scott Reid - MP Conservative Party
That said, if Scott Reid were the leader of the CPC, it still wouldn't change my opinion of the current local CPC MP in my riding and he still wouldn't get my vote.
It is our business to know if she used her position illegally, but we would have known in due time after an RCMP investigation proves it true, not now only to find out later that it might all have been an 'exaggeration'. That just makes Harper look like a political opportunist.
Your's is schill too? Mine plays video games and thinks the Liberals are the dark side of the force.
That's your opinion.
I'm of the opinion, that when a duly elected official is asked to resign, I want to know why, period.
The partisan speculation that would be filling the airwaves, bandwidth and papers, would be astronomical.
If it turns out to be an over reaction and Harper acted in bad faith, then a court can decide his and the Party's fate.
Until then the public, has every right to know the 5W's. People have died for us to have that right.
I'm not sure what you mean by schill.
but anyway, I vote candidate and not party, so as long as the CPC candidate in my riding has no brainwave, he doesn't get my vote no matter how good the leader might be.