Good on Maine

AnnaG

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Actually that was quote a lot of people will remember from the Monty Python show... spewed by a trio of maniacal crimson robed cardinals. I meant it in jest, but the postulates of of Spanish Inquisition might have been correct, if not their methods. :smile:
They were obviously correct according to the morons in the RCC at the time. We all know how factually and ethically correct the RCC has been, though.
 

AnnaG

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By Maria Sacchetti, Globe Staff

PORTLAND, Maine -- Proponents of same-sex marriage vowed today to continue their fight in Maine a day after voters narrowly shot it down. Opponents of gay marriage said they, too, would keep up their efforts.

Yesterday, 53 percent of Maine voters repealed the state's gay-marriage law just six months after the governor signed it, and a year after California voters defeated same-sex marriage by a similar margin. It was a devastating blow for national efforts to expand gay marriage since Massachusetts was the first to allow it in 2003, and a victory for opponents who say marriage should be limited to a man and a woman.


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"That's a wonderful number, one that we're not going to forget," she said. "I assure you we are going to build in the future."

"We are on the right side of history," said Shenna Bellows, executive director of the Maine Civil Liberties Union. "This is just another beginning."


source: Backers of same-sex marriage pledge to keep up Maine fight - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe


As far as I'm concerned, I think it's terrible that the majority has the right to decide about equal rights and civil liberties. 47% vs. 53% is still pretty impressive and I believe they will build on it.
I think so, too. I'm not sure about other parts but around here, if something doesn't quite go through, people keep pushing it until everyone says yes just so they don't have to hear about it any more. lol
 

FiveParadox

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There’s something exceptionally disturbing about the fact that a majority of citizens in the State of Maine (as well as those other thirty States that have done so) would deliberately and intentionally choose to strip other citizens of their rights. I am thankful that Canadian rights and freedoms are not subject to the daily mood-change of the electorate. Minority rights should never be subject to a process so simple as a popular-vote referendum.
 

Risus

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The laws must be interrupted as written. There is no reason to give special groups their own protection.
I am glad a majority runs the U.S. and will do my best to see they always do._________________________________________

Listen Canada.

Hmmmm, for once I have to agree with china.
 

Tonington

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Yeah, the majority rule worked so well for American society during the years of slavery, so long as you weren't the slave... Who cares about the minorities anyway, they're minor, and we're major. Phuck em!

Retard, and not the pejorative use of the word either...
 

AnnaG

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Well, if you want to procreate...
Been there, done that. Does that mean I am supposed to stop having fun with my gf? The answer doesn't matter because I won't.
Some people just won't have kids but like the fun. Some others can't have kids but can have fun. Gay marriage has NO effect on anyone else's marriages. It only miffs a few prudes and busybodies.
 

Cannuck

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As long as the government cares about my marital status, it has the right to define marriage. I don't think the government should be concerned about my living arrangement and if they didn't stick their collective noses in peoples business this wouldn't be an issue.
 

coldstream

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They were obviously correct according to the morons in the RCC at the time. We all know how factually and ethically correct the RCC has been, though.


On matters of faith and morals.. the Magisterium.. when the Pontiff, the Curia, the college of Bishops has achieved consensus.. is quite infallible. :smile:
 

Dexter Sinister

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And who says so? THEY do. I see no reason to take that seriously.

And BTW, the line is "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."
 

AnnaG

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On matters of faith and morals.. the Magisterium.. when the Pontiff, the Curia, the college of Bishops has achieved consensus.. is quite infallible. :smile:
According to them, yes. Not according to everyone. Who says they are more right than anyone else? They do. So what? Just because someone keeps saying they are morally right doesn't make it so concerning everyone else.
As Dexter said.
 

SirJosephPorter

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On matters of faith and morals.. the Magisterium.. when the Pontiff, the Curia, the college of Bishops has achieved consensus.. is quite infallible. :smile:


Sure it is infallible, and that is the scary part of Catholic religion. In theory, the Pope could repeal the law of gravity and invoke the doctrine of infallibility. Then anybody who disagrees with the Pope, anybody who says that law of gravity is still around, is not a good Catholic, by definition.
 

Tonington

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It's ironic that coldstream can be so swayed by consensus. I know recently 18 scientific organizations released a public statement which supported a consensus on a certain subject that coldstream thinks is fraud. Hilarious!
 

Francis2004

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While one might think it great and democratic to be able to reverse past administration choices it does leave many issues behind. It also causes many to doubt whether a law will actually be effective past the 2 to 4 years a party will retain power. This effectively makes the democracy much weaker.

It will eventually also impact much more as the system grinds to a halt from back and forth lobbying and law making and breaking.

If a people is to succeed it must decide what is best and "only" revoke a bad law, not in the best interest of political gain, but in the best interest of all. Once the laws are made, you must move forward to ensure equality for all.
 

Liberalman

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Maine other question was marijuana which won so you get the justice of the peace high on weed and they will marry the gays
 

TenPenny

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Location, Location
Interesting that the areas that voted against the change (ie, voted to allow marrying gays) were, not surprisingly, Bangor, Portland, parts of the southern coast, and the Bethel area.

All the potato farmers were firmly agianst it.