GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

[Graciously Yours]

RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

C-Kid, Isn't that a little harsh? Why would you say that?

 

[jimmoyer]

Well, Caracal kid has got some know-how, experience
and knowlege, but let's just say the conservatives
are going to make a stand and even agressively so,
and the liberals will just passively sit by watching it all
like an effete critic fussing over a movie he reviews
but who will never make the movie, nor know what it takes to produce it.

But for the life of me I don't know enough about
internal Canadian politics to see the Conservatives
not favor an income tax reduction over a faulty
GST (goods and services tax) sales tax cut.

That's topsy turvy.

 

[Graciously Yours]

RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

Jim,

I agree completely. It seems to me that the GST, as hated as it is, is at least a consumption tax which you as a consumer have a chioce to pay or not. Don't want to pay the tax, don't get the product/service. A cut in income tax would probably be better for the consumer, giving them more disposible income, however the simple fact is, I believe, that we are in far too much debt for really either situation to work. GST is hated, and thus the emotional responce will be favourable, logically though it would seem to make more sense to lower the income taxes. But when has any government really done that?

 

[the caracal kid]

Grac,

why do you see my summary as harsh?

On the GST cut issue, i agree with you and Jim.

 

[Graciously Yours]

RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

C-Kid,

I read your statement, "the con way comes down to three words: rape, pillage, plundar.", to mean that with conservitives, those three things are destined. That conservitives will, rape, plunder and pillage. Not necc. in that order... lol

If this is an error please forgive me, and explain it to me. If it is what you meant, do you not think labeling an entire of people by those words a little harsh?

 

[aeon]

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You mean like we are supporting the Chinese? BTW, do you have a source for this?

no problem as u ask....

http://jewish.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=769

But while President Bush publicly embraced the community of holocaust survivors in Washington last spring, he and his family have been keeping a secret from them for over 50 years about Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush

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This is crap. alright. Do you realize what you are insinuating? Not only that Bush et al murdered 2500 of their own people, but that every investigator, Congress, and thousands of others are accessories either during, or after the fact, and NOT ONE has lost his nerve or had an attack of ethics.......this is patently ridiculous.

They did 9-11 to get their hand on ressource in central asia, simple as that.


ever heard of operation northwood??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwood


Operation Northwoods or Northwoods was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against Cuba. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real domestic terror attacks (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the US military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

 

[the caracal kid]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

C-Kid,

I read your statement, "the con way comes down to three words: rape, pillage, plundar.", to mean that with conservitives, those three things are destined. That conservitives will, rape, plunder and pillage. Not necc. in that order... lol

If this is an error please forgive me, and explain it to me. If it is what you meant, do you not think labeling an entire of people by those words a little harsh?

i meant the conservative parties in the western world tend towards these actions. They rape, pillage, and plundar the planet of its resources, with little or no farsightedness.

Not all people that support the cons are of the same degree of rapers, pillagers, and plunderers, but in supporting such parties they are guilty to some extent of the effects of the more capitalistic.

 

[Colpy]

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You mean like we are supporting the Chinese? BTW, do you have a source for this?

no problem as u ask....

http://jewish.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=769

But while President Bush publicly embraced the community of holocaust survivors in Washington last spring, he and his family have been keeping a secret from them for over 50 years about Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush

Yeah. I admit, this is pretty shocking stuff. Direct control of a company that used from the slave labour camps at Auswitch. Nasty.

But what the article carefully avoids telling you is that Auswitch was not established until mid-1940, Birkenau (the slave labour camp) in 1941, and Auswitch did not become a true "extermination" camp until the autumn of 1941, when the first gas chambers were built.

So Bush profited from prisoner labour held by the Germans before the "Final Solution". About the same as the West is now doing in China, supporting the use of slave labour. Nasty, but unfortunately, far from unusual.

And one should remember that George Bush senior had an exceptionally honourable war record.

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This is crap. alright. Do you realize what you are insinuating? Not only that Bush et al murdered 2500 of their own people, but that every investigator, Congress, and thousands of others are accessories either during, or after the fact, and NOT ONE has lost his nerve or had an attack of ethics.......this is patently ridiculous.

They did 9-11 to get their hand on ressource in central asia, simple as that.


ever heard of operation northwood??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwood


Operation Northwoods or Northwoods was a 1962 plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against Cuba. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real domestic terror attacks (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the US military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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The key words on Operation Northwoods "the plan, which was not implemented" Somebody, somewhere in the American security apparatus, came up with a loony idea 40 years before 9-11.
Hardly evidence of anything.

 

[aeon]

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Yeah. I admit, this is pretty shocking stuff. Direct control of a company that used from the slave labour camps at Auswitch. Nasty.

But what the article carefully avoids telling you is that Auswitch was not established until mid-1940, Birkenau (the slave labour camp) in 1941, and Auswitch did not become a true "extermination" camp until the autumn of 1941, when the first gas chambers were built.

So Bush profited from prisoner labour held by the Germans before the "Final Solution". About the same as the West is now doing in China, supporting the use of slave labour. Nasty, but unfortunately, far from unusual.

I ve never said it was unusual, the bush family also profited from 9-11, through the carlysle group.

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The key words on Operation Northwoods "the plan, which was not implemented" Somebody, somewhere in the American security apparatus, came up with a loony idea 40 years before 9-11.
Hardly evidence of anything.

True good point,hardly an evidence, but it was though and approved,already hijacking plane was part of the plan, why it didnt happen?? at the time, usa wasnt the only superpower, actually the russian was also a superpower, and at the same time was an allied to cuba.Today there is only one superpower.


Do you want me to post all the facts on 9-11?? we could have fun there.

 

[Graciously Yours]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

i meant the conservative parties in the western world tend towards these actions. They rape, pillage, and plundar the planet of its resources, with little or no farsightedness.

Not all people that support the cons are of the same degree of rapers, pillagers, and plunderers, but in supporting such parties they are guilty to some extent of the effects of the more capitalistic.

I can see your point. And sadly, agree with much of it.

I tend to be capitalist, but capitalist in the Adam Smith variety, not this, IMO, fascism that is being touted as capitalism today. However, that said, I was raised a capitalist(more or less) and how much of my opinion has merely been imprinted on me?

I hate all of this partisan stuff. If I may paraphrase the Joker.... This world needs a Enema!

 

[Benz]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

hahahaha....the left does seem to be getting frantic! But I think we are going to find that ignorance and fear is not going to win the election....shame on that asshole Paul Martin.

I beg to differ. If the Conservatives win, ignorance will be the true victor of the election.

CBC said it best when they classified the Conservative vote in two categories:

1) Business men
2) The uninformed

Another word for uninformed is ignorant.

Just like it's an ignorant statement to assume Paul Martin is to blame for all the Liberals' problems. Canada isn't governed like the USA, and therefore, Mr. Martin doesn't have an iron fist when making decisions. Additionally, all the Liberals are trying to do with their attack ads is regain the uninformed vote... so realistically, both parties should be burned in a sea of unethical deciet. Liberals and Conservatives have the most entertaining songs and dances come election time, and it's so funny how they never deliver the goods once elected... yet we keep trying... we keep hoping. Maybe one day, they'll change.

Guess what? They won't. We've seen all of this before. If you want to learn about the future, look to the past.

Here's a funny comment about the left. They have 1/10th the power, yet manage to do 10 times the work of any other political party in Canada...

No wonder the lefties are getting jumpy.

 

[Jay]

Maybe the left is getting jumpy because their cash cow is just about to dry up.

And let's not forget the CBC is going to be getting jumpy too. They seem to have not filled their mandate of "keep liberals in power". We all know conservatives don't like the CBC, and they don't like us.

 

[Kellen]

My my, so much hyperbole.

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Re: "God Bless Canada"

I can understand the sensitive nature of this issue.

(b) Many would associate the statement "God bless anything" with His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, President of the United States; such would be a valid observation, in my opinion. It would be unwise, in my opinion, for the Leader of the Opposition to draw such an obvious parallel between himself and the President, during a time when the President's second term has been so incredibly controversial.

His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, President of the United States

Addressing George Bush as "HIS EXCELLENCY" is a bit much. "THE HONOURABLE" is proper but a bit formal. Down in Baja Canada, we just address him as Mr. George Bush, President or Pres. Bush but giving him a title like "HIS EXCELLENCY" might get the powers to be to thinking.

In the US, we address no elected or appointed official by other than HON. His/Her Name. My Daughters laughed themselves silly when I got a piece of mail addressed to the Honorable Martin L'Acadien since I hold an appointed office! I never used HONORABLE in anything after that.

 

[Curiosity]

Martin

I have to disagree - all members of the House are supposed to be addressed in formal terms:
The Honorable Joe Blow
Senator
or
Representative....
or
Secretary....
or
Ambassador.....
or
Judge

Honest honest.... even lowly County and Civic elected officials.

But most people just ignore it unless they want something....then the address label isn't big enough !!

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Martin

I have to disagree - all members of the House are supposed to be addressed in formal terms:
The Honorable Joe Blow
Senator
or
Representative....
or
Secretary....
or
Ambassador.....
or
Judge

Honest honest.... even lowly County and Civic elected officials.

But most people just ignore it unless they want something....then the address label isn't big enough !!

Exactly the point, and I was addressed by the chief Judge of the Parish Court at the time! Honorable (Honourable) is the proper address for any elected or certain ranking positions but HIS EXCELLENCY is usually not used in a Republic! Don't need the Honourable George W. Bush, Jr. to get any more weird ideas.

Beware of those who praise. WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

 

[FiveParadox]

Addressing George Bush as "HIS EXCELLENCY" is a bit much. "THE HONOURABLE" is proper but a bit formal. Down in Baja Canada, we just address him as Mr. George Bush, President or Pres. Bush but giving him a title like "HIS EXCELLENCY" might get the powers to be to thinking.

My apologies, but the Government of Canada directs that Heads of State of foreign nations (such as the United States) are to be styled "[His or Her] Excellency," followed by the "Right Honourable" in some cases, and the "Honourable" in others. Since I am Canadian, I consider President Bush to be a foreign Head of State.

It was only a sign of respect.

 

[I think not]

FiveParadox

How DARE you call our President His Excellency :evil:

Chum, will do just fine thank you :wink:

 

[Martin Le Acadien]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

Addressing George Bush as "HIS EXCELLENCY" is a bit much. "THE HONOURABLE" is proper but a bit formal. Down in Baja Canada, we just address him as Mr. George Bush, President or Pres. Bush but giving him a title like "HIS EXCELLENCY" might get the powers to be to thinking.

My apologies, but the Government of Canada directs that Heads of State of foreign nations (such as the United States) are to be styled "[His or Her] Excellency," followed by the "Right Honourable" in some cases, and the "Honourable" in others. Since I am Canadian, I consider President Bush to be a foreign Head of State.

It was only a sign of respect.

Understood, when I am in Canada, I do like the Canadians likewise. Just did not want Georgie to run off for his crown fitting just yet!

 

[FiveParadox]

lol, understood.