GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

[Jersay]

The original poster makes a good point. Harper hasn't changed and is right wing just like any other right-wing nutball out there,

especially the one to the south who hears god talking to him.

At least Harper hasn't said that,

"God told me I will win." :lol:

If he gets a majority though, you will see him or his party try to cram in right-wing agendas and gut the system because they will be in power for 4 to 5 years and no one could do a dang thing about it.

 

[Doryman]

What crime?? as far as i am concerned, we are living in a free society( well that is debatable). I did the nazi salute to george w bush, when he came to ottawa, no one came to me and arrest me.




Well then that confirms you're an idiot. Really, the Holocaust was a pretty horrible time for humanity in general and the Nazi's were possibly the most evil Organization of the last few centuries. We don't need nitwits like you comparing Everyone you disagree with to Nazi's. Really man, Bush is an asshole, and possibly retarded, but he isn't rounding up undesirables and having them gassed. No one came to arrest you because they recognized you were being juvenile and stupid. I only wish some big Hasitic Jew was standing next to lay you out with a haymaker.

Nazi salutes are not "on", man, not on at all.

And while Harpers fundamentalism grates on my nerves and doesn't really earn any of my respect, I doubt he's going to be able to transmogrify us into some chilly northern Christian Iran between this election and the next one. If it gets that bad we'll vote him and the Reformatory Alliance out again. Don't freak out.

 

[Jersay]

Well then that confirms you're an idiot. Really, the Holocaust was a pretty horrible time for humanity in general and the Nazi's were possibly the most evil Organization of the last few centuries. We don't need nitwits like you comparing Everyone you disagree with to Nazi's. Really man, Bush is an asshole, and possibly retarded, but he isn't rounding up undesirables and having them gassed. No one came to arrest you because they recognized you were being juvenile and stupid. I only wish some big Hasitic Jew was standing next to you out with a haymaker.

Nazi salutes are not "on", man, not on at all.

Agreed about the Nazi salute.

However, there are other genocides, North/South America, Transatlantic slavery, the Armenians in Turkey that have happened and should be recognized as well as just as terrible or worse in some cases.

 

[FiveParadox]

"God Bless Canada"

I can understand the sensitive nature of this issue.

(a) When the Honourable Stephen Harper says "God bless Canada," he brings religious ideals to the forefront; this is a practice often discouraged (at least during our Thirty-fifth, Thirty-sixth, Thirty-seventh and Thirty-eighth Parliaments), and for valid reasons — the separation of an "active Church" and State is an important part of governance in Canada.

The extent to which religion is directly involved in the lives of every citizen of Canada, in terms of governance, is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which makes reference to the "supremacy of God." However, the Senate of Canada, on holding extensive hearings and studies, has determined to have the clause of preamble remain, on the grounds that it should be interpreted in a modern sense, to refer to some kind of stable continuity outside of our governmental system, rather than God in the Christian sense of the word.

(b) Many would associate the statement "God bless anything" with His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, President of the United States; such would be a valid observation, in my opinion. It would be unwise, in my opinion, for the Leader of the Opposition to draw such an obvious parallel between himself and the President, during a time when the President's second term has been so incredibly controversial.

 

[cyberclark]

Maybe some one whispered in his ear that the religious right were unhappy because he didn't beat the drums on some their pet peeves?

 

[Curiosity]

Re God Bless

If I was going to God Bless anything it would be Sanch's avatar which I think is the funniest one I've seen in years.

God Bless ya Sanch and yer drawer droppin buddy!

 

[aeon]

Well then that confirms you're an idiot. Really, the Holocaust was a pretty horrible time for humanity in general and the Nazi's were possibly the most evil Organization of the last few centuries. We don't need nitwits like you comparing Everyone you disagree with to Nazi's. Really man, Bush is an asshole, and possibly retarded, but he isn't rounding up undesirables and having them gassed. No one came to arrest you because they recognized you were being juvenile and stupid. I only wish some big Hasitic Jew was standing next to lay you out with a haymaker.

Name calling? there is no need to my friend. The holocost was a very bad time for humanity, they were possibly the most horrible organisation in the world,but you should also know that grandfather bush supported financially hitler and the nazi regime from 1939 to 1942.


I say the republicans are the nazi of the modern time, why?? The nazi in 1933, blew up their reich, put the blame on the terrorist communist, and install martial law. what happened in 2001? they did 9-11, put the blame on muslim terrorist and install patriot act, same old crap!. They used repetive propaganda until their people believe their crap, no wonder why 70% of americans though saddam hussein was behind 9-11.That kind of strategy was used by the nazi germany and many other too in history.

They don t gassed the muslim, but guantomo bay and many prison around the world are used for torture, for the benifit of this administration withouth even charge , and some are being killed.

Nazi salutes are not "on", man, not on at all.

And while Harpers fundamentalism grates on my nerves and doesn't really earn any of my respect, I doubt he's going to be able to transmogrify us into some chilly northern Christian Iran between this election and the next one. If it gets that bad we'll vote him and the Reformatory Alliance out again. Don't freak out.

Whatever.

 

[Doryman]

Agreed about the Nazi salute.

However, there are other genocides, North/South America, Transatlantic slavery, the Armenians in Turkey that have happened and should be recognized as well as just as terrible or worse in some cases.

Oh definitely, but the Nazi's were the most organized and large scale of these. As well, they're the most recognizable, and the easiest for nitwits to imitate without any real understanding ( like the druggie skeets in high-school who carve swastikas on their lockers, or aeon)

IN any case, saying heil hitler in a public place should get you beaten up.

 

[MMMike]

Well then that confirms you're an idiot. Really, the Holocaust was a pretty horrible time for humanity in general and the Nazi's were possibly the most evil Organization of the last few centuries. We don't need nitwits like you comparing Everyone you disagree with to Nazi's. Really man, Bush is an asshole, and possibly retarded, but he isn't rounding up undesirables and having them gassed. No one came to arrest you because they recognized you were being juvenile and stupid. I only wish some big Hasitic Jew was standing next to lay you out with a haymaker.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[the caracal kid]

"IN any case, saying heil hitler in a public place should get you beaten up."

Let me first say i agree with you that the comparisons to Hitler of just about anything are pointless and rediculous.

However, is there not a strange irony in your above statement?

 

[Colpy]

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Really, the Holocaust was a pretty horrible time for humanity in general and the Nazi's were possibly the most evil Organization of the last few centuries. We don't need nitwits like you comparing Everyone you disagree with to Nazi's. Really man, Bush is an asshole, and possibly retarded, but he isn't rounding up undesirables and having them gassed. No one came to arrest you because they recognized you were being juvenile and stupid. I only wish some big Hasitic Jew was standing next to lay you out with a haymaker

Not to split hairs, but the Nazi party has some real competition for nastiest organization on earth.

Hands down, the worst regime ever to exist on this earth is the current Red Chinese government, who have murdered somewhere between forty and seventy million of their own people since 1949.

In second place is the "Evil Empire" of communist Russia, under which regime as many as 25 to 30 million were murdered.

Adolph and that bunch of charmers comes in a poor third, at between 10 and twelve million murdered.

It just makes my skin crawl when any politician (including Harper, whom I support) talks of cozying up to the Chinese. It would be like trying to pretend Eichmann was our friend, and selling him soap after 1945.

Name calling? there is no need to my friend. The holocost was a very bad time for humanity, they were possibly the most horrible organisation in the world,but you should also know that grandfather bush supported financially hitler and the nazi regime from 1939 to 1942.

You mean like we are supporting the Chinese? BTW, do you have a source for this?

I say the republicans are the nazi of the modern time, why?? The nazi in 1933, blew up their reich, put the blame on the terrorist communist, and install martial law. what happened in 2001? they did 9-11, put the blame on muslim terrorist and install patriot act, same old crap!. They used repetive propaganda until their people believe their crap, no wonder why 70% of americans though saddam hussein was behind 9-11.That kind of strategy was used by the nazi germany and many other too in history.

This is crap. alright. Do you realize what you are insinuating? Not only that Bush et al murdered 2500 of their own people, but that every investigator, Congress, and thousands of others are accessories either during, or after the fact, and NOT ONE has lost his nerve or had an attack of ethics.......this is patently ridiculous.

 

[Doryman]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

Hmm. I put up a pretty lengthy post a while back, but it seems like it didn't take, weird...

anyhoo

"IN any case, saying heil hitler in a public place should get you beaten up."

Let me first say i agree with you that the comparisons to Hitler of just about anything are pointless and rediculous.

However, is there not a strange irony in your above statement?

Swatting a mouthy punk for making a spectacle of himself is hardly
akin to a full-out murderous regime. The problem with our society is that we've lost the ability to tell the difference. Sometimes, people need a good smack in the gob to straighten them out.


"Not to split hairs, but the Nazi party has some real competition for nastiest organization on earth"

Oh definitely, but I'm in no way conceding that saluting a world leader as a nazi is now only "third place stupid". That's grade-A dumbassery any way you cut it. :wink:



And aeon, you've really got to give up with that whole "Bush blew up his own countrymen" thing. It's jsut insane. Next you'll be talking about ZOG and the Illuminati and other conspiracy nut favourites...

 

[Graciously Yours]

RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

COLBY Wrote:

<<" This is crap. alright. Do you realize what you are insinuating? Not only that Bush et al murdered 2500 of their own people, but that every investigator, Congress, and thousands of others are accessories either during, or after the fact, and NOT ONE has lost his nerve or had an attack of ethics.......this is patently ridiculous.">>

Not entirely. The fact is many people hav spoken out about it, about the inconsistencies with the story, how the rubble and damanged remains of the WTC 1, 2 and 7 were wisked away before any independant government agency could search through it. About the inconsistencies with the offical story at the time, combined with the obvious and scripted ways to link Saddam with OBL(which incidently was so effective that some poll I saw had 25% of the Americans still think that Saddam was behind 911. The compound that, with the outcomes of that day, and the fact that they can't seem to find some 6', hobbled. sick man who was the one that supposedly hit them, then the plot really does thicken. Ofcourse, there is also the fact the while no one else was allowed on planes, or any planes in the air - OBL's family is flown out of the country by who?? Yeah......

Besides, why is it so hard that a president, or any leader would kill his own people? Every leader does that when they send people to war, with every spy mission, and lets not forget the average man who has had to deal with the IRS down there... It really isn't such a stretch. I know we like to think that our leaders work for us, but the reality when you objectively look at it is quite different.

As someone already pointed out Jeb Bush and his Nazi ties were real. He even had his assets frozen, or the bank he worked at(Which is who did the business with the Nazi's) were, under the trading with the enemy act, or something like it.

This shouldn't be against any one politician though. They are all only interested in your vote, which gets them psudo-power, which allows them to live off of your earnings, however as we have seen lately votes, which were always purely symbolic anyway, have now had their illusion pulled off, because the simply fact is enough people are now so dependant on the system, that they will do anything to keep it going, including looking the other way when unethical things are going on around them.

Now to the topic? I don't get the problem if a politician says "God Bless Canada"? We don't care when they blatently lie to us, we don't care when they extort our money from us, we don't even care when they tell us what to watch(and thus control what we are exposed to) - so why care over that?

Maybe caring about those things, would fix some of the major problems. But alas, the reality is that, generally, people care more about reality TV, award shows and the daily gossip than world affairs. So we just keep on with this futal addition of zero's wondering why we never make any significant societal progress over decades.

Ohh ya, and BTW, I am new here. I hope I didn't offend anyone with the above rant.

Cheers

 

[Hank C]

hahahaha....the left does seem to be getting frantic! But I think we are going to find that ignorance and fear is not going to win the election....shame on that asshole Paul Martin.

 

[Graciously Yours]

RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HA

Hank, just incase that was ment for me... It isn't a partisan thing at all. Merely a function of the animal we call a politician. Generally, fiscally I am to the right, but I beleive after a long time studying politic's and the effects it has on people, we can grow above it. If people need to pigon hold others with labels, then that is generally a telling sign that they are unable to deal with the subtlities of the issues. This does nothing for us as a country and only builds walls of mistrust. Remember the function of the government is to protect it's citizens - but the function of the politician is to be ellected, and when one conviences a group of people of the "them" Vs "us" theory it is a divide and conquer play.

I am surprized that more people don't catch on to this. It is all fear based, because we know when people are frieghtened - they do silly things. That is why the liberals and NDP will always accuse the PC's of being dangerous, to illicit that fear in certain segments of society. That is why the PC's will label the other parties socialists, communists, dictatorships, et el. Same reason. No side has a moral or ethical high ground in politics.

BTW - I take it your voting for Layton then?

 

[Jersay]

Yeah, the worst genocide is the Transatlatlantic slavery which killed over 100 million black people once they arrived from Africa and once they were born into slavery. Good old mercantile system of good old capitalism.

The genocide of North and South America, that was done in the name of economics and other reasons.

You bring up how communism and socialism kills people. Capitalism has killed even more in genocide and other forms of terror. Just as much or more than communism.

 

[nitzomoe]

Yeah, the worst genocide is the Transatlatlantic slavery which killed over 100 million black people once they arrived from Africa and once they were born into slavery. Good old mercantile system of good old capitalism.

The genocide of North and South America, that was done in the name of economics and other reasons.

You bring up how communism and socialism kills people. Capitalism has killed even more in genocide and other forms of terror. Just as much or more than communism.

saddest part is that unlike the Nazis who attempted to eliminate the Jews, he failed miserably and the jewish ppl still have their culture intact, whereas for most african nations the destruction brought about by colonialism is still ravaging their lands.

But getting back to the point, if the conservatives do win, i certainly hope its a minority, that way the moment they try any bushlike policies every other party will trample them.

 

[Jersay]

But getting back to the point, if the conservatives do win, i certainly hope its a minority, that way the moment they try any bushlike policies every other party will trample them.

Exactly.

 

[Tresson]

Re: RE: GOD BLESS CANADA! HARPER'S GOTT MIT UNS

If Harper wins the first thing he will do is have all the anti-depressants pulled from the shelf. Sorry folks, but you've gotta learn to deal with your true feelings....it's the conservative way.

Is that why they start so many wars?

 

[the caracal kid]

Exactly,

the con way comes down to three words: rape, pillage, plundar.