Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

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L Gilbert

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Interesting post... I never really thought that people like you really existed - looks like I was wrong.

thanks for the link on caribou and zoologists... Clearly they are interested therefore they must be reliable experts in all things. hell, I suppose that they are expert geologists as part of their interest is based on the food sources of caribou and as the soil/land composition is related to the geological structures, they have that expertise as well.

So i suppose that the message is that you, and you alone are right, everyone else is wrong.

Ever thought of working for the IPCC or East Anglia University? I hear there are many openings.
Try not to be so obtuse. My initial point was that they are a lot more expert on climate than journalists.
 
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More expert is vastly different from being expert... A family doctor may be more expert that the average person on the street, but that does not qualify that person as a neuro surgeon.
 

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http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=8pjd9xpp&pf=YES December 2009
Science, Politics and Global Warming

“In the end, science offers us the only way out of politics. And if we allow science to become politicized, then we are lost. We will enter the Internet version of the dark ages, an era of shifting fears and wild prejudices, transmitted to people who don't know any better. That's not a good future for the human race. That's our past.”

—Michael Crichton, “Environmentalism as Religion,” (A lecture at the Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, CA, September 15, 2003).



The Global Warming circus in Copenhagen was politics driven by a consensus that, by definition, has nothing to do with science. The apocalyptic nonsense that opened the meeting highlighted that fact. How many who attended or demonstrated at the meeting actually understand the (disputed) scientific grounds for the hysteria? Meanwhile, leading science journals allow skeptics of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) to be labelled “deniers” and refuse them the right of reply. It is doctrinaire denouncement, not science. It is the journal editors who are denying the scientific method by censoring debate. It is they who are peddling ideology.
 

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More expert is vastly different from being expert... A family doctor may be more expert that the average person on the street, but that does not qualify that person as a neuro surgeon.
So? Avro posted a debate between a journalist denier and Monbiat and you implied Monbiat is no more qualified than the journalist at climate matters. I simply pointed out that your implication is wrong and you just agreed with me. Thank you.
And that just shows you are closed to evidence and relying upon whatever you think supports your opinion.
 

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http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=8pjd9xpp&pf=YES December 2009
Science, Politics and Global Warming

“In the end, science offers us the only way out of politics. And if we allow science to become politicized, then we are lost. We will enter the Internet version of the dark ages, an era of shifting fears and wild prejudices, transmitted to people who don't know any better. That's not a good future for the human race. That's our past.”

—Michael Crichton, “Environmentalism as Religion,” (A lecture at the Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, CA, September 15, 2003).



The Global Warming circus in Copenhagen was politics driven by a consensus that, by definition, has nothing to do with science. The apocalyptic nonsense that opened the meeting highlighted that fact. How many who attended or demonstrated at the meeting actually understand the (disputed) scientific grounds for the hysteria? Meanwhile, leading science journals allow skeptics of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) to be labelled “deniers” and refuse them the right of reply. It is doctrinaire denouncement, not science. It is the journal editors who are denying the scientific method by censoring debate. It is they who are peddling ideology.
Yeah that sure proves glbal warming is a scam alright. :roll:
 

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So? Avro posted a debate between a journalist denier and Monbiat and you implied Monbiat is no more qualified than the journalist at climate matters. I simply pointed out that your implication is wrong and you just agreed with me. Thank you.
And that just shows you are closed to evidence and relying upon whatever you think supports your opinion.


Wrong.

I stated that Monbiat is a zoologist and NOT a climate expert. That's it...You assumed the rest.

... What's that you were saying about being closed to evidence?
 
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There you go. ;-) Perhaps in another 10 years you'll be 7' above sea level. Uhoh, bad hurricane coming. Holy jeeez, didja see that? That wave reached Kentucky.



The one good thing is that there is deep water offshore, so a tidal wave would not be able to build up to high, but high enough to wash the floors. :)
 

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I do think this is a precursor to another ice age (normal Earth life cycle).

Why is it that the El Nino effect has been so powerful lately? Is it something new, or has it always been with us. When we have la Nina the nutrients get a better mix in our oceans (sea life flourishes), that has not happened in about 5 years, or by Florida time hurricane Andrew..

http://www.elnino.noaa.gov/lanina_new_faq.html
 

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Just went down to the beach,funny even after all this rain it is still there.
Pretty much in the same place it has always been.
Hey Les how is your diesal tractor running?
Doing your part to reduce green house gasses?
 
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The implication was evident. I'm not wrong.
The globe is warming and it isn't a scam.


That implication is entirely your assumption. Sorry, but you are 100% wrong.

As far as the globe warming is concerned, the issue here relates to whether it is humanity that is the major cause or a part of a natural cycle. I thought that this was evident.
 

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There are lots of possibilities. Here's one:
Whether increased infragravity wave frequency and energy induced by heightened storm intensity associated with climate change ultimately contribute to or trigger ice shelf collapse is an open question at this point, said Bromirski. More data from Antarctica are needed to make such a connection, he said.
- Antarctic ice shelf collapse possibly triggered by ocean waves
 

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Just went down to the beach,funny even after all this rain it is still there.
Pretty much in the same place it has always been.

I have to agree. I live right near the ocean. I grew up near the ocean.

Still the same.

At high tide it comes way up...low tide it goes way out.

Same as it ever was.
 

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That implication is entirely your assumption. Sorry, but you are 100% wrong.
That's only your opinion, not fact; especially after you've agreed with me that the zoologist is more versed in climate than your journalist. But whatever your implication was is irrelevant anyway.

As far as the globe warming is concerned, the issue here relates to whether it is humanity that is the major cause or a part of a natural cycle. I thought that this was evident.
Wrong again. I think you like the habit of being wrong.

The issue is
Global warming 'Greatest Scam in History'
right from the topic title. The anthropogenic causes of global warming thread is not this one. http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warmin...html#Is_global_warming_connected_to_the_hole_
 
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Just went down to the beach,funny even after all this rain it is still there.
Pretty much in the same place it has always been.
Hey Les how is your diesal tractor running?
It runs fine, thanks. Haven't used it this winter, though.
Doing your part to reduce green house gasses?
We are still at it, yes.
 
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