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Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.
By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:10PM GMT 28 Nov 2009
A week after my colleague James Delingpole, on his Telegraph blog, coined the term "Climategate" to describe the scandal revealed by the leaked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, Google was showing that the word now appears across the internet more than nine million times. But in all these acres of electronic coverage, one hugely relevant point about these thousands of documents has largely been missed.
The reason why even the Guardian's George Monbiot has expressed total shock and dismay at the picture revealed by the documents is that their authors are not just any old bunch of academics. Their importance cannot be overestimated, What we are looking at here is the small group of scientists who have for years been more influential in driving the worldwide alarm over global warming than any others, not least through the role they play at the heart of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Professor Philip Jones, the CRU's director, is in charge of the two key sets of data used by the IPCC to draw up its reports. Through its link to the Hadley Centre, part of the UK Met Office, which selects most of the IPCC's key scientific contributors, his global temperature record is the most important of the four sets of temperature data on which the IPCC and governments rely – not least for their predictions that the world will warm to catastrophic levels unless trillions of dollars are spent to avert it.
Dr Jones is also a key part of the closely knit group of American and British scientists responsible for promoting that picture of world temperatures conveyed by Michael Mann's "hockey stick" graph which 10 years ago turned climate history on its head by showing that, after 1,000 years of decline, global temperatures have recently shot up to their highest level in recorded history.
Given star billing by the IPCC, not least for the way it appeared to eliminate the long-accepted Mediaeval Warm Period when temperatures were higher they are today, the graph became the central icon of the entire man-made global warming movement.
Since 2003, however, when the statistical methods used to create the "hockey stick" were first exposed as fundamentally flawed by an expert Canadian statistician Steve McIntyre, an increasingly heated battle has been raging between Mann's supporters, calling themselves "the Hockey Team", and McIntyre and his own allies, as they have ever more devastatingly called into question the entire statistical basis on which the IPCC and CRU construct their case.
The senders and recipients of the leaked CRU emails constitute a cast list of the IPCC's scientific elite, including not just the "Hockey Team", such as Dr Mann himself, Dr Jones and his CRU colleague Keith Briffa, but Ben Santer, responsible for a highly controversial rewriting of key passages in the IPCC's 1995 report; Kevin Trenberth, who similarly controversially pushed the IPCC into scaremongering over hurricane activity; and Gavin Schmidt, right-hand man to Al Gore's ally Dr James Hansen, whose own GISS record of surface temperature data is second in importance only to that of the CRU itself.
There are three threads in particular in the leaked documents which have sent a shock wave through informed observers across the world. Perhaps the most obvious, as lucidly put together by Willis Eschenbach (see McIntyre's blog Climate Audit and Anthony Watt's blog Watts Up With That), is the highly disturbing series of emails which show how Dr Jones and his colleagues have for years been discussing the devious tactics whereby they could avoid releasing their data to outsiders under freedom of information laws.
They have come up with every possible excuse for concealing the background data on which their findings and temperature records were based.
This in itself has become a major scandal, not least Dr Jones's refusal to release the basic data from which the CRU derives its hugely influential temperature record, which culminated last summer in his startling claim that much of the data from all over the world had simply got "lost". Most incriminating of all are the emails in which scientists are advised to delete large chunks of data, which, when this is done after receipt of a freedom of information request, is a criminal offence.
But the question which inevitably arises from this systematic refusal to release their data is – what is it that these scientists seem so anxious to hide? The second and most shocking revelation of the leaked documents is how they show the scientists trying to manipulate data through their tortuous computer programmes, always to point in only the one desired direction – to lower past temperatures and to "adjust" recent temperatures upwards, in order to convey the impression of an accelerated warming. This comes up so often (not least in the documents relating to computer data in the Harry Read Me file) that it becomes the most disturbing single element of the entire story. This is what Mr McIntyre caught Dr Hansen doing with his GISS temperature record last year (after which Hansen was forced to revise his record), and two further shocking examples have now come to light from Australia and New Zealand.
In each of these countries it has been possible for local scientists to compare the official temperature record with the original data on which it was supposedly based. In each case it is clear that the same trick has been played – to turn an essentially flat temperature chart into a graph which shows temperatures steadily rising. And in each case this manipulation was carried out under the influence of the CRU.
What is tragically evident from the Harry Read Me file is the picture it gives of the CRU scientists hopelessly at sea with the complex computer programmes they had devised to contort their data in the approved direction, more than once expressing their own desperation at how difficult it was to get the desired results.
The third shocking revelation of these documents is the ruthless way in which these academics have been determined to silence any expert questioning of the findings they have arrived at by such dubious methods – not just by refusing to disclose their basic data but by discrediting and freezing out any scientific journal which dares to publish their critics' work. It seems they are prepared to stop at nothing to stifle scientific debate in this way, not least by ensuring that no dissenting research should find its way into the pages of IPCC reports.
Back in 2006, when the eminent US statistician Professor Edward Wegman produced an expert report for the US Congress vindicating Steve McIntyre's demolition of the "hockey stick", he excoriated the way in which this same "tightly knit group" of academics seemed only too keen to collaborate with each other and to "peer review" each other's papers in order to dominate the findings of those IPCC reports on which much of the future of the US and world economy may hang. In light of the latest revelations, it now seems even more evident that these men have been failing to uphold those principles which lie at the heart of genuine scientific enquiry and debate. Already one respected US climate scientist, Dr Eduardo Zorita, has called for Dr Mann and Dr Jones to be barred from any further participation in the IPCC. Even our own George Monbiot, horrified at finding how he has been betrayed by the supposed experts he has been revering and citing for so long, has called for Dr Jones to step down as head of the CRU.
The former Chancellor Lord (Nigel) Lawson, last week launching his new think tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation, rightly called for a proper independent inquiry into the maze of skulduggery revealed by the CRU leaks. But the inquiry mooted on Friday, possibly to be chaired by Lord Rees, President of the Royal Society – itself long a shameless propagandist for the warmist cause – is far from being what Lord Lawson had in mind. Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with a whitewash of what has become the greatest scientific scandal of our age.
Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash, says Christopher Booker.
By Christopher Booker
Published: 6:10PM GMT 28 Nov 2009
A week after my colleague James Delingpole, on his Telegraph blog, coined the term "Climategate" to describe the scandal revealed by the leaked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit, Google was showing that the word now appears across the internet more than nine million times. But in all these acres of electronic coverage, one hugely relevant point about these thousands of documents has largely been missed.
The reason why even the Guardian's George Monbiot has expressed total shock and dismay at the picture revealed by the documents is that their authors are not just any old bunch of academics. Their importance cannot be overestimated, What we are looking at here is the small group of scientists who have for years been more influential in driving the worldwide alarm over global warming than any others, not least through the role they play at the heart of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Professor Philip Jones, the CRU's director, is in charge of the two key sets of data used by the IPCC to draw up its reports. Through its link to the Hadley Centre, part of the UK Met Office, which selects most of the IPCC's key scientific contributors, his global temperature record is the most important of the four sets of temperature data on which the IPCC and governments rely – not least for their predictions that the world will warm to catastrophic levels unless trillions of dollars are spent to avert it.
Dr Jones is also a key part of the closely knit group of American and British scientists responsible for promoting that picture of world temperatures conveyed by Michael Mann's "hockey stick" graph which 10 years ago turned climate history on its head by showing that, after 1,000 years of decline, global temperatures have recently shot up to their highest level in recorded history.
Given star billing by the IPCC, not least for the way it appeared to eliminate the long-accepted Mediaeval Warm Period when temperatures were higher they are today, the graph became the central icon of the entire man-made global warming movement.
Since 2003, however, when the statistical methods used to create the "hockey stick" were first exposed as fundamentally flawed by an expert Canadian statistician Steve McIntyre, an increasingly heated battle has been raging between Mann's supporters, calling themselves "the Hockey Team", and McIntyre and his own allies, as they have ever more devastatingly called into question the entire statistical basis on which the IPCC and CRU construct their case.
The senders and recipients of the leaked CRU emails constitute a cast list of the IPCC's scientific elite, including not just the "Hockey Team", such as Dr Mann himself, Dr Jones and his CRU colleague Keith Briffa, but Ben Santer, responsible for a highly controversial rewriting of key passages in the IPCC's 1995 report; Kevin Trenberth, who similarly controversially pushed the IPCC into scaremongering over hurricane activity; and Gavin Schmidt, right-hand man to Al Gore's ally Dr James Hansen, whose own GISS record of surface temperature data is second in importance only to that of the CRU itself.
There are three threads in particular in the leaked documents which have sent a shock wave through informed observers across the world. Perhaps the most obvious, as lucidly put together by Willis Eschenbach (see McIntyre's blog Climate Audit and Anthony Watt's blog Watts Up With That), is the highly disturbing series of emails which show how Dr Jones and his colleagues have for years been discussing the devious tactics whereby they could avoid releasing their data to outsiders under freedom of information laws.
They have come up with every possible excuse for concealing the background data on which their findings and temperature records were based.
This in itself has become a major scandal, not least Dr Jones's refusal to release the basic data from which the CRU derives its hugely influential temperature record, which culminated last summer in his startling claim that much of the data from all over the world had simply got "lost". Most incriminating of all are the emails in which scientists are advised to delete large chunks of data, which, when this is done after receipt of a freedom of information request, is a criminal offence.
But the question which inevitably arises from this systematic refusal to release their data is – what is it that these scientists seem so anxious to hide? The second and most shocking revelation of the leaked documents is how they show the scientists trying to manipulate data through their tortuous computer programmes, always to point in only the one desired direction – to lower past temperatures and to "adjust" recent temperatures upwards, in order to convey the impression of an accelerated warming. This comes up so often (not least in the documents relating to computer data in the Harry Read Me file) that it becomes the most disturbing single element of the entire story. This is what Mr McIntyre caught Dr Hansen doing with his GISS temperature record last year (after which Hansen was forced to revise his record), and two further shocking examples have now come to light from Australia and New Zealand.
In each of these countries it has been possible for local scientists to compare the official temperature record with the original data on which it was supposedly based. In each case it is clear that the same trick has been played – to turn an essentially flat temperature chart into a graph which shows temperatures steadily rising. And in each case this manipulation was carried out under the influence of the CRU.
What is tragically evident from the Harry Read Me file is the picture it gives of the CRU scientists hopelessly at sea with the complex computer programmes they had devised to contort their data in the approved direction, more than once expressing their own desperation at how difficult it was to get the desired results.
The third shocking revelation of these documents is the ruthless way in which these academics have been determined to silence any expert questioning of the findings they have arrived at by such dubious methods – not just by refusing to disclose their basic data but by discrediting and freezing out any scientific journal which dares to publish their critics' work. It seems they are prepared to stop at nothing to stifle scientific debate in this way, not least by ensuring that no dissenting research should find its way into the pages of IPCC reports.
Back in 2006, when the eminent US statistician Professor Edward Wegman produced an expert report for the US Congress vindicating Steve McIntyre's demolition of the "hockey stick", he excoriated the way in which this same "tightly knit group" of academics seemed only too keen to collaborate with each other and to "peer review" each other's papers in order to dominate the findings of those IPCC reports on which much of the future of the US and world economy may hang. In light of the latest revelations, it now seems even more evident that these men have been failing to uphold those principles which lie at the heart of genuine scientific enquiry and debate. Already one respected US climate scientist, Dr Eduardo Zorita, has called for Dr Mann and Dr Jones to be barred from any further participation in the IPCC. Even our own George Monbiot, horrified at finding how he has been betrayed by the supposed experts he has been revering and citing for so long, has called for Dr Jones to step down as head of the CRU.
The former Chancellor Lord (Nigel) Lawson, last week launching his new think tank, the Global Warming Policy Foundation, rightly called for a proper independent inquiry into the maze of skulduggery revealed by the CRU leaks. But the inquiry mooted on Friday, possibly to be chaired by Lord Rees, President of the Royal Society – itself long a shameless propagandist for the warmist cause – is far from being what Lord Lawson had in mind. Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with a whitewash of what has become the greatest scientific scandal of our age.
U.S. climate change bill could side-swipe oilsands- U.S Climate change Bill 2010 - Always a year away..
Critics blast draft plan on climate change-
Harper denies Canada isolated on climate change at Commonwealth meeting
So let me get this right..Power hungry ,Grey Conservatives/republicans abuse, trash and cause chaos across the world for 10 yrs + call it a Crisis..Then go on to use/create irrelevant arguements, saying an economic recovery is more important then sustainability , the people, and the living breathing environment.
Do people really believe the same ol' style of leadership , by the same ol leaders that brought us to "crisis", can be trusted to run the world into the future?
Lead us into a sustainable/prosperous future..?
They will only succeed at running us into the ground..!
Grey Leaders who only think in short term gains ,only look inward to themselves and to out of touch backers/lobbyists for support.They were the ones largely responsible for creating and manufacturing our current problems.
Lest we forget..
Canadian( enviroment?)minister, Jim Prentise and "Gang green"(Clement,Baird,Harper,... )are totally out of touch with what Canada(canadians)and the global communtiee should really be striving/aspiring towards.Right Now.What the world needs more than ever before..- Global Cooperation/A sustainable ,realistic future that includes all .Represented by honest / passionate /future looking/strong leaders, able to listen ,learn,discuss to resolution /to a Solution.Put it Into action.Not just in principle,but in reality ..Without the broken promises and empty excuses..
Grey leaders seem to be under the alurring power and control of easy,dirty $$..
Let the Global World know ..Canadian Conservatives / Republicans, DO NOT speak for the majority of Canadians,Or the rest of the world/ Planet Earth.On climate change / environmental / humanitarian or related revelant issues that speak toward respect for all ..They speak for $$..
They'll neglect and ignore all that is needed ,necessary,asked and hoped for .Like clean air ,food ,water,shelter ,Global cooperation.They will Risk it all for more $$ .More dirty energy.Seemingly even if it's at the expense of a sustainable future and a fairer profit system.
Grey Leaders/market profiteers /Big biz should be prevented from acting in their own self absorbed , greedy pursuit of instant gratification and Dirty $$. If it is proven ,that their actions will negatively affect the majority, and the future of this planet..For they seem to be Ignorant to the fact ,that along with ecological sustainabilty , global respect, and the peoples backing . Money/prosperity will follow.
The quest for $$ alone, is not sustainable ,or necessary, without a livable environment.
No Earth + No life = No $$..
It's all B.S.(Bailout/stimulus?) games for monetary gains.All at the reluctant expense of the passionate public, and blinded slave drone followers..
The future looks bleak /dirty grey at best, as long as Big Biz Polluters and Greedy Grey Politicians are allowed, and not prevented from, further ignoring the real concerns and problems that are facing/continue to plague this world..
Mostly having to do with them, at the expense to us all !
Few gain now. So All will suffer later..Seems to be their slogan.
Green/Clean tech holds the best options/choices along with the most sustainable /prosperous /brightest future. For the betterment of all..
Don't let the smog,smoke and mirrors cloud your mind or vision of the future.
(Mr.Harper and like minded politicians )..The Global economic markets will have to change to the realities of this Global World/Earth. This World/Earth will not bend to them ..That is certain .Change will come ,the future will evolve.With or without consent.
$$, to few, may rule the world.But their short sightedness will not buy us another Planet Earth, or facsimile.
Without a sustainable plan for the future.One that repects this Earth ,and its people .All will be lost .It will be All for nothing .
I do have faith in the future and all the possibilites it holds for us ,as humans, as a living species ...
I do not have faith in the future of Shady Grey Biz Politics..!
Time to get with the times ..Time to Look toward the future .So we know what direction we should be heading in..
Green/clean tech, can/will lead the way..
.......If global leaders all agreed to go into deficit .Create/manufacture a crisis.For whatever reason($?)...
Dick Cheney - Deficits don't matter -
Dick Cheney on Budget & Economy
Where does the real "0" balance lie?
When it comes to Big Grey Biz /Politicians .There will always be an excuse for not accomplishing anything of relevance, when it comes to issues that truly matter, to the majority of others..
Peace ..
Critics blast draft plan on climate change-
Harper denies Canada isolated on climate change at Commonwealth meeting
So let me get this right..Power hungry ,Grey Conservatives/republicans abuse, trash and cause chaos across the world for 10 yrs + call it a Crisis..Then go on to use/create irrelevant arguements, saying an economic recovery is more important then sustainability , the people, and the living breathing environment.
Do people really believe the same ol' style of leadership , by the same ol leaders that brought us to "crisis", can be trusted to run the world into the future?
Lead us into a sustainable/prosperous future..?
They will only succeed at running us into the ground..!
Grey Leaders who only think in short term gains ,only look inward to themselves and to out of touch backers/lobbyists for support.They were the ones largely responsible for creating and manufacturing our current problems.
Lest we forget..
Canadian( enviroment?)minister, Jim Prentise and "Gang green"(Clement,Baird,Harper,... )are totally out of touch with what Canada(canadians)and the global communtiee should really be striving/aspiring towards.Right Now.What the world needs more than ever before..- Global Cooperation/A sustainable ,realistic future that includes all .Represented by honest / passionate /future looking/strong leaders, able to listen ,learn,discuss to resolution /to a Solution.Put it Into action.Not just in principle,but in reality ..Without the broken promises and empty excuses..
Grey leaders seem to be under the alurring power and control of easy,dirty $$..
Let the Global World know ..Canadian Conservatives / Republicans, DO NOT speak for the majority of Canadians,Or the rest of the world/ Planet Earth.On climate change / environmental / humanitarian or related revelant issues that speak toward respect for all ..They speak for $$..
They'll neglect and ignore all that is needed ,necessary,asked and hoped for .Like clean air ,food ,water,shelter ,Global cooperation.They will Risk it all for more $$ .More dirty energy.Seemingly even if it's at the expense of a sustainable future and a fairer profit system.
Grey Leaders/market profiteers /Big biz should be prevented from acting in their own self absorbed , greedy pursuit of instant gratification and Dirty $$. If it is proven ,that their actions will negatively affect the majority, and the future of this planet..For they seem to be Ignorant to the fact ,that along with ecological sustainabilty , global respect, and the peoples backing . Money/prosperity will follow.
The quest for $$ alone, is not sustainable ,or necessary, without a livable environment.
No Earth + No life = No $$..
It's all B.S.(Bailout/stimulus?) games for monetary gains.All at the reluctant expense of the passionate public, and blinded slave drone followers..
The future looks bleak /dirty grey at best, as long as Big Biz Polluters and Greedy Grey Politicians are allowed, and not prevented from, further ignoring the real concerns and problems that are facing/continue to plague this world..
Mostly having to do with them, at the expense to us all !
Few gain now. So All will suffer later..Seems to be their slogan.
Green/Clean tech holds the best options/choices along with the most sustainable /prosperous /brightest future. For the betterment of all..
Don't let the smog,smoke and mirrors cloud your mind or vision of the future.
(Mr.Harper and like minded politicians )..The Global economic markets will have to change to the realities of this Global World/Earth. This World/Earth will not bend to them ..That is certain .Change will come ,the future will evolve.With or without consent.
$$, to few, may rule the world.But their short sightedness will not buy us another Planet Earth, or facsimile.
Without a sustainable plan for the future.One that repects this Earth ,and its people .All will be lost .It will be All for nothing .
I do have faith in the future and all the possibilites it holds for us ,as humans, as a living species ...
I do not have faith in the future of Shady Grey Biz Politics..!
Time to get with the times ..Time to Look toward the future .So we know what direction we should be heading in..
Green/clean tech, can/will lead the way..
.......If global leaders all agreed to go into deficit .Create/manufacture a crisis.For whatever reason($?)...
Dick Cheney - Deficits don't matter -
Dick Cheney on Budget & Economy
Where does the real "0" balance lie?
When it comes to Big Grey Biz /Politicians .There will always be an excuse for not accomplishing anything of relevance, when it comes to issues that truly matter, to the majority of others..
Peace ..
Climate hot topic again | World | News | Toronto Sun
'Botch after botch after botch' | Lorrie Goldstein | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun - Figured Goldstein would be all over this manufactured Conspiracy Hype...
Hacked e-mails at centre of global warming debate | World | News | Toronto Sun
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CTV News | Harper 'always' said he'd go to Copenhagen: Prentice
Economics needs Ecology ..Ecology doesn't need Economics ...Evolving Civilized Humans need both ...
When a Virus invades our body and tries to make it home...Our temperature rises to fight off the invader using a dynamic system...
If humans become a invading Virus on this Earth .Will the Earth alter it's temperature/climate to control us ?..Using its natural dynamic systems.?..Freeze ,burn the threat, or both?
For those who believe in Gia theory and to many other "living Earth" enthusiasts .The Earth will do what it has to do inorder to control threats and survive ..
Many / biologists /Chemists/Physists/Astrobiologists /Earth scientists who study dynamic systems would find truth in this premise ..
There is no agruing that there is Climate and many connected dynamic systems at work on this planet and beyond ..It's obvious..
The questions begin with ;
How do Humans affect this planet? To what extent..?What are the effects.? Positive or negative?
There is no doubt we affect the our surrounding environment , Inhabiting species.We are Obviously included in the natural cycles of this planet.....
But How do we affect the earth's natural systems ?..What are the effects ,benefits and consequences, to our actions or inaction on the planet?
It is in all Species interest that we ask and find the answers and solutions to such questions.Be the cure , not the cancer...
We must look from the Micro to the Macro.Infinite to the infintesimal and back again to find the solutions to all these questions that affect our space /time and sustainability on this world/Home planet...
The Earth will Live on with or without us...Other life will flourish ..It is Us who have separted ourselves from our animal past inorder to become independent from our mother earth. However, we must never forget that no matter what we do .How we choose to move forward/Evolve/use our technological tools......We are still very vulnerable and fragile inhabitants of this living, dynamic ,organizing planet, we call home...We are dependent on this Earths life giving systems..
Pollution /waste control , and how we choose to live,sustain,respect,understand ourselves as well as our home, Earth ..Will be a large factor in determining how long we live, and how we prosper now and into the future, on this one of a kind,life giving planet..
Trusted /Respected Science and Scientists look to find the answers and solutions to these questions of concern..As Ignorance and self interest will work to destroy everything for more $$ and instant self gratification..
Economics needs Ecology ..Ecology doesn't need Economics .Civilized Evolving Humans need both....
Green/Clean tech...Promises the best future for all..
Climate Change/ Global warming, are just a couple ,of many, "Green" issues...The Green Movement and other Concerned , Caring Citizens are fueled forward by..
.....When a growing ammount of heavily industrialized/polluting Countries can interrupt natural weather (say by making it rain or by increasing smog ),using unnatural human interventions/invention .How does this affect natural weather patterns,climate and ultimately our ecological system/Our Survival?...How does smog affect the Earths natural dynamic system /Ecology/Us..?..Should we make it rain if we can above the desert?.Can we actually Control the weather?.. These are just a couple of vital questions that we dependent on/dependence of, this Planet should be able to answer .
The Ultimate questions we all need to ask and understand inorder to ensure our survival are..How do humans affect the Planet..How do we sustain our existence while reaching for properity ?
It's not just about Global warming/Climate change .These are just a couple,of many "Green" Issues The "Green" Movement and other Concerned ,Caring Citizens are fueled forward by.
There is climate change .No doubt.It Obvious ..I believe there is both unnatural warming as well as cooling affecting this earth .Increasingly having to do with us Humans, and our wasteful ignorance of /serparation from ,our surrounding (Local to Global )environment .To What extent?... is always the question..
Climate Change / Global Warming , will prove itself . Whether we choose to understand or ignore our affect on this planet / our place in it /beyond it.Solve the problems.Embrace the solutions and act on them .Will be what determines our success/sustainabity/prosperity and ultimate survival on this Planet Earth and Beyond... Now and into the future..
Doing nothing and opposing everything ,is not an option..
In the end we are only hurting ourselves if we don't learn the truths, and find more sustainable ways of doing things..
Green/Clean Tech holds the most promising possibilites , answers and solutions, for the future and the betterment of all..Minus all the excuses and Fabricated B.S....
'Botch after botch after botch' | Lorrie Goldstein | Columnists | Comment | Toronto Sun - Figured Goldstein would be all over this manufactured Conspiracy Hype...
Hacked e-mails at centre of global warming debate | World | News | Toronto Sun
C-311
CTV News | Harper 'always' said he'd go to Copenhagen: Prentice
Economics needs Ecology ..Ecology doesn't need Economics ...Evolving Civilized Humans need both ...
When a Virus invades our body and tries to make it home...Our temperature rises to fight off the invader using a dynamic system...
If humans become a invading Virus on this Earth .Will the Earth alter it's temperature/climate to control us ?..Using its natural dynamic systems.?..Freeze ,burn the threat, or both?
For those who believe in Gia theory and to many other "living Earth" enthusiasts .The Earth will do what it has to do inorder to control threats and survive ..
Many / biologists /Chemists/Physists/Astrobiologists /Earth scientists who study dynamic systems would find truth in this premise ..
There is no agruing that there is Climate and many connected dynamic systems at work on this planet and beyond ..It's obvious..
The questions begin with ;
How do Humans affect this planet? To what extent..?What are the effects.? Positive or negative?
There is no doubt we affect the our surrounding environment , Inhabiting species.We are Obviously included in the natural cycles of this planet.....
But How do we affect the earth's natural systems ?..What are the effects ,benefits and consequences, to our actions or inaction on the planet?
It is in all Species interest that we ask and find the answers and solutions to such questions.Be the cure , not the cancer...
We must look from the Micro to the Macro.Infinite to the infintesimal and back again to find the solutions to all these questions that affect our space /time and sustainability on this world/Home planet...
The Earth will Live on with or without us...Other life will flourish ..It is Us who have separted ourselves from our animal past inorder to become independent from our mother earth. However, we must never forget that no matter what we do .How we choose to move forward/Evolve/use our technological tools......We are still very vulnerable and fragile inhabitants of this living, dynamic ,organizing planet, we call home...We are dependent on this Earths life giving systems..
Pollution /waste control , and how we choose to live,sustain,respect,understand ourselves as well as our home, Earth ..Will be a large factor in determining how long we live, and how we prosper now and into the future, on this one of a kind,life giving planet..
Trusted /Respected Science and Scientists look to find the answers and solutions to these questions of concern..As Ignorance and self interest will work to destroy everything for more $$ and instant self gratification..
Economics needs Ecology ..Ecology doesn't need Economics .Civilized Evolving Humans need both....
Green/Clean tech...Promises the best future for all..
Climate Change/ Global warming, are just a couple ,of many, "Green" issues...The Green Movement and other Concerned , Caring Citizens are fueled forward by..
.....When a growing ammount of heavily industrialized/polluting Countries can interrupt natural weather (say by making it rain or by increasing smog ),using unnatural human interventions/invention .How does this affect natural weather patterns,climate and ultimately our ecological system/Our Survival?...How does smog affect the Earths natural dynamic system /Ecology/Us..?..Should we make it rain if we can above the desert?.Can we actually Control the weather?.. These are just a couple of vital questions that we dependent on/dependence of, this Planet should be able to answer .
The Ultimate questions we all need to ask and understand inorder to ensure our survival are..How do humans affect the Planet..How do we sustain our existence while reaching for properity ?
It's not just about Global warming/Climate change .These are just a couple,of many "Green" Issues The "Green" Movement and other Concerned ,Caring Citizens are fueled forward by.
There is climate change .No doubt.It Obvious ..I believe there is both unnatural warming as well as cooling affecting this earth .Increasingly having to do with us Humans, and our wasteful ignorance of /serparation from ,our surrounding (Local to Global )environment .To What extent?... is always the question..
Climate Change / Global Warming , will prove itself . Whether we choose to understand or ignore our affect on this planet / our place in it /beyond it.Solve the problems.Embrace the solutions and act on them .Will be what determines our success/sustainabity/prosperity and ultimate survival on this Planet Earth and Beyond... Now and into the future..
Doing nothing and opposing everything ,is not an option..
In the end we are only hurting ourselves if we don't learn the truths, and find more sustainable ways of doing things..
Green/Clean Tech holds the most promising possibilites , answers and solutions, for the future and the betterment of all..Minus all the excuses and Fabricated B.S....
Anna G ..Big ...Are you two saying there is no Climate Change?.Or that humans do not/can not affect the climate...Really?...
What really cinched it for me years ago before I had made-up my mind about AGW was the preponderance of Libs and lefties who agreed with the AGW's and the vast majority of righties who thought it was all bs. Something so politicized has nothing at all to do with science and everything to do with controlling people's lives.
How do you know that it isn't the politicization by conservatives that is BS? It has nothing at all to do with science. Many conservatives do side with the myriad of synthesis reports which cannot escape the conclusion of human influence, and they are attacked by other conservatives immediately.
So Walt, in absence of AGW, how do you explain the phenomena? What is causing the troposphere to warm, and the stratosphere to cool at the same time?
So Walt, in absence of AGW, how do you explain the phenomena? What is causing the troposphere to warm, and the stratosphere to cool at the same time?
Neither. Climate change is the result of our scandalous veneration of science and technologies.
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