Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

[darkbeaver]

Slim's not stupid. I don't mind people not being able to grasp a concept or even being ignorant of the concept, but when they are confronted time after time with the same facts and information yet seem to refuse to acknowledge them, it's a bit annoying and after a while I start to wonder if they are being purposefully leaden.

Oh how right you are Mrs Kettle.:smile:

 

[darkbeaver]

May 11 11:49

White House aims to use Deepwater disaster to win votes for US climate bill



Senators are set to take a last run at producing a climate and energy law tomorrow, betting on the spectre of environmental disaster raised by the BP oil spill to build support for a comprehensive overhaul of America's energy strategy.


DB( CO2 is not media friendly, after repeated attempts to cover polar bears with it the decision was made to use oil. Look for the first oil smeared bears about the middle of July.)

 

[darkbeaver]

Space and Science Research Center
P.O. Box 607841 Orlando, FL 32860
www.spaceandscience.net
407-394-9089


Press Release SSRC 2-2010



Food and Ethanol Shortages Imminent as Earth Enters New Cold Climate Era
Monday, May 10, 2010
11:30 AM

The Space and Science Research Center (SSRC), the leading independent research organization in the United States on the subject of the next climate change, issues today the following warning of imminent crop damage expected to produce food and ethanol shortages for the US and Canada:
Over the next 30 months, global temperatures are expected to make another dramatic drop even greater than that seen during the 2007-2008 period. As the Earth’s current El Nino dissipates, the planet will return to the long term temperature decline brought on by the Sun’s historic reduction in output, the on-going “solar hibernation.” In follow-up to the specific global temperature forecast posted in SSRC Press Release 4-2009, the SSRC advises that in order to return to the long term decline slope from the current El Nino induced high temperatures, a significant global cold weather re-direction must occur. According to SSRC Director John Casey, “The Earth typically makes adjustments in major temperature spikes within two to three years. In this case as we cool down from El Nino, we are dealing with the combined effects of this planetary thermodynamic normalization and the influence of the more powerful underlying global temperature downturn brought on by the solar hibernation. Both forces will present the first opportunity since the period of Sun-caused global warming period ended to witness obvious harmful agricultural impacts of the new cold climate. Analysis shows that food and crop derived fuel will for the first time, become threatened in the next two and a half years. Though the SSRC does not get involved with short term weather prediction, it would not be unusual to see these ill-effects this year much less within the next 30 months.”
The SSRC further adds that the severity of this projected near term decline may be on the order of 0.9 C to 1.1 C from present levels. Surprising cold weather fronts will adversely impact all northern grain crops including of course wheat and the corn used in ethanol for automotive fuel.
In pointing out the importance and reliability of this new temperature forecast and its effects on North American crops, Director Casey adds,” The SSRC has been the only US independent research organization to correctly predict in advance three of the most important events in all of climate science history. We accurately announced beforehand, the end of global warming, a long term drop in the Earth’s temperatures and most importantly the advent of a historic drop in the Sun’s output, a solar hibernation. The US government’s leading science organizations, NASA and NOAA have completely missed all three, as of course have United Nations climate change experts. It is only because of the amount of expected criticism we received because of our strong opposition to the Obama administration’s climate change policies and our declaration of the end of global warming, that the SSRC is not more fully accepted for its leadership role in climate change forecasting. The facts and reliability surrounding our well publicized predictions however stand as testament to the SSRC’s proven ability to understand the nature of global climate change. In view of the importance of this new forecast I have notified the Secretary of Agriculture to take immediate actions to prepare the nation’s agricultural industry for the coming crop damage.”
The SSRC places only one caveat on this forecast. Casey elaborates, “Only a stronger solar cycle with a period longer than the 206 year cycle can cause us to alter our projections. Although more research is needed in this area, none have yet shown themselves. The present hibernation is proceeding in almost lock step as the last one which occurred from 1793 to 1830. If it continues on present course, while the cold weather impacts on food and fuel announced today are certainly important, they do not compare with what is to follow later. At the bottom of the cold cycle of this hibernation in the late 2020’s and 2030’s there will likely be years with devastating to total crop losses in the Canadian and northern US grain regions.”

Letter to USDA Secretary Vilsack
Press Release SSRC 1-2010

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Some people will believe anything...

Not all scientific theories are equal, a concept Isaac Asimov refered to as The Relativity of Wrong.

While there is some uncertainty in the global warming scenario, there's far more uncertainty in the contention that the global climate is static or even cooling.

Evidence for warming include.

- Direct temperature readings made at thousands of sites across the planet going back a century or more that sample sea surface water temperature, marine air temperature, land surface temperature and atmospheric temperature up to almost 20 km.
- Decrease in glaciers(Glacier National Park alone has lost more than 3/4 of its named glaciers).
- Decrease in the extent and thickness of Arctic ice cap. Measurements from under ice submarine travel indicate the pack is almost half the thickness it was two decades ago.
- Increase in the severity and frequency of extreme weather events(droughts, floods, tornados, hurricanes etc...). One storm system in Feb. 2008 spawned 138 tornados in the US midwest.
- Loss of gigatons of ice from Greenland icecap.
- Loss of ice shelfs in Antarctica.

We have a mechanism for warming, the absorbtion of longwave radiation by excess CO2 in the atmosphere, it's inevitable that will cause a change in the overall global climate equilibrium.

While sunspots do a play a role in short term variability of the global climate, the pattern does not account for the warming after 1980 when human generated greenhouse gases became the driving force in climate change.

 

[petros]

If there are too many people using too many resources which group of consumers should be eliminated to reduce consumption and off gassing?

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

If there are too many people using too many resources which group of consumers should be eliminated to reduce consumption and off gassing?

Who talking about eliminating anybody?

There's a huge amount of waste in how we use energy and resources, the cutbacks need to come in our habits, not a segment of population.

There's no doubt in my mind that before too many more years have gone by what we consider normal now will be considered a great luxury.

 

[AnnaG]

If there are too many people using too many resources which group of consumers should be eliminated to reduce consumption and off gassing?

Politicians. lol

 

[petros]

Who talking about eliminating anybody?

You had better listen closer to what the green agenda is really all about.

"Sustainability" means a huge population reduction. not North America reducing consumption.

Our economy is a consumption based economy so that means either the economy goes or the consumers go. Which do you prefer?

 

[AnnaG]

Who talking about eliminating anybody?

There's a huge amount of waste in how we use energy and resources, the cutbacks need to come in our habits, not a segment of population.

There's no doubt in my mind that before too many more years have gone by what we consider normal now will be considered a great luxury.

Politicians use government to blow immense wads of money on relatively worthless issues and things. They think they have an unlimited supply of money and everything they do is for the good of the people. What more does one need for the ultimate consumer mentality?

 

[petros]

Green or Soylent Green? The hidden "green" agenda.

Thomas Malthus
“We are bound in justice and honour formally to disdain the Right of the poor to support. “To this end, I should propose a regulation to be made, declaring that no child born from any marriage taking place after the expiration of a year from the date of the law, and no illegitimate child born two years from the same date, should ever be entitled to parish assistance…. “The infant is, comparatively speaking, of little value to society, as others will immediately supply its place.” –Thomas Malthus, An Essay on the Principle of Population
“All children who are born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room be made for them by the death of grown persons…. Therefore … we should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality; and if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use. “Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague. In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlement in all marshy and unwholesome situations. But above all we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and restrain those benevolent, but much mistaken men, who have thought they are doing a service to mankind by protecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders.” –Malthus, ibid.
Bertrand Russell
“The white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The Asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without help of war and pestilence. Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized, and the less prolific races will have to defend themselves by methods which are disgusting even if they are necessary.” –Bertrand Russell
“I have already spoken of the population problem, but a few words must be added about its political aspect. …. It will be impossible to feel that the world is in a satisfactory state until there is a certain degree of equality, and a certain acquiescence everywhere in the power of the World Government, and this will not be possible until the poorer nations of the world have become … more or less stationary in population. The conclusion to which we are driven by the facts that we have been considering is that, while great wars cannot be avoided until there is a World Government, a World Government cannot be stable until every important country has nearly stationary population.” –Bertrand Russell
Prince Philip, … of Great Britain
“You cannot keep a bigger flock of sheep than you are capable of feeding. In other words conservation may involve culling in order to keep a balance between the relative numbers in each species within any particular habitat. I realize this is a very touchy subject, but the fact remains that mankind is part of the living world…. Every new acre brought into cultivation means another acre denied to wild species.” –Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, consort of Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain
“In the event I am reborn, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.” –Prince Philip, quoted in Deutsche Presse Agentur, August 1988
Paul Ehrlich
“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people…. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.” –Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb
Michael Soverstein, president, Environmental Economics
“If necessary, nations of the Third World must be forced to remain poor if their development threatens resources on which all life depends.” –Michael Soverstein, president, Environmental Economics
Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation
“Malthus has been vindicated, reality is finally catching up with Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing population. Our philosophy is: back to the village.” –Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, 1984
Thomas Lovejoy, World Wildlife Fund
“The biggest problems are the damn national sectors of these developing countries. These countries think that they have the right to develop their resources as they see fit. They want to become powers.” –Thomas Lovejoy, vice president, World Wildlife Fund U.S.A., 1984
Sir Peter Scott, World Wildlife Fund
“If we look at things causally, the bigger problem in the world is population. We must set a ceiling to human numbers. All development aid should be made dependent on the existence of strong family planning programs.” –Sir Peter Scott, chairman, World Wildlife Fund U.K., 1984
Fritz Leutwiler, Bank for International Settlements
“It means the reduction of real income in countries where the majority of the population is already living at the minimum existence level or even under it. That is difficult, but one cannot spare the highly indebted countries this difficult path. It is unavoidable.” –Fritz Leutwiler, chairman, Bank for International Settlements, 1982
“Fritz speaks with his guts. If he had his way, he would kill them all, in the Third World, except a few raw materials producers, of course.” –One of Leutwiler’s fellow Geneva bankers
William Paddock, US State Department
“If you do anything to increase food production through more agricultural technology, all you are doing is increasing future suffering, because there will be more people, population will expand to absorb that food, and the results will be a greater disaster…. Mexico simply can’t handle 60 million people … think how prosperous Mexico would be today if it had the population of 1933, 18 million.” –William Paddock, U.S. State Department agronomist and co-author, Famine 1975! America’s Decision, Who Will Survive?, in remarks in 1980
Julian Blackwelder, The Environmental Fund
“[In Bangladesh] if you go and feed people whose problem is that their numbers are forever getting greater, all you can possibly do is incubate catastrophe; you keep enlarging the number of people that you know absolutely have to perish in a very unfortunate way sometime in the future, and reasonably soon…. I think any humanitarian would like to see the population of Mexico reduced in a humane way. Otherwise it will be reduced in an inhumane way.” –Julian Blackwelder, director, The Environmental Fund, 1980
Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs
“There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it…. “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females…. “The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….” –Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs, Latin American Desk, February 1981 interview
Michael Novak
“…Every newborn child lowers the average per capita income.” –Michael Novak, The Spirit of Democratic Capitalism
The Club of Rome
“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” –Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, 1991
William Paddock, State Department
“The Mexican population must be reduced by half. Seal the border and watch them scream.” And, asked how this population reduction would be accomplished, the speaker replied: “By the usual means: famine, war, and pestilence.” –William Paddock, State Department consultant, 1975 interview
Robert McNamara, World Bank
“Overpopulation and rapid demographic growth of Mexico is already today one of the major threats to the national security of the United States.” Unless the U.S.-Mexico border is sealed, “we will be up to our necks in Mexicans for whom we cannot find jobs.” –Robert McNamara, then-World Bank president, March 19, 1982
“…There are only two possible ways in which a world of 10 billion people can be averted. Either the current birth rates must come down more quickly. Or the current death rates must go up. “There is no other way. “There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, war can accomplish it very quickly and decisively. Famine and disease are nature’s ancient checks on population growth, and neither one has disappeared from the scene…. “To put it simply: Excessive population growth is the greatest single obstacle to the economic and social advancement of most of the societies in the developing world.” –Robert McNamara, Oct. 2, 1979

 

[petros]

More greenocide quotes:

Bankers go for Green genocide

Reserve Bank board member Warwick McKibbin has just announced support for a carbon tax, combined with a carbon-trading scheme. Make no mistake: the "climate change" swindle run by the British financial oligarchy and supported by our complicit mainstream media, will tax us to death - no pun intended. This tax-and-trade scheme will shut down our farmers and manufacturers and ram up the price of petrol, gas and
electricity - and it‚s all based on one big scientific scam. The London-centred financial oligarchy intends mass genocide, as the following quotes from their assets in the Green movement clearly demonstrate.

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Philip, reported by Deutsche Presse-Agentur (DPA), August, 1988. Prince Philip, first President of WWF-UK from its foundation in 1961 to 1982, and President of WWF-International from 1981 to 1996, is now President Emeritus for WWF. He was a founder of the Australian Conservation Foundation and its President from 1971 to 1976.

One "human way to reduce the population might be to put something in the water, a virus that would be specific to the human reproductive system and would make a substantial proportion of the population infertile. Perhaps a virus that would knock out the genes that produce certain hormones necessary for conception. ... A triage approach will be necessary so that scarce medical resources go to those who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet. Consequently, many middle-aged-to-elderly people will die uncomfortable deaths. Not every problem is solveable." Dr John Reid speaking with Robyn Williams on ABC radio, 10 December, 2006. See
Ockham's Razor - 10 December 2006 - Apocalypse now for full transcript.

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the UN Earth Summit, June 1992.

"...At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars.... War ... has hitherto been disappointing in this respect ... but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could
procreate freely without making the world too full.... The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other peoples'...." Lord Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society, 1953

"This is a terrible thing to say. In order to stabilize world populations, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it." Jacques Cousteau, co-recipient in 1977 (with Sir Peter Scott) of the
International Environmental Prize awarded by the United Nations for outstanding contributions in the field of the environment. Quoted from UNESCO Courier, November 1991.

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." Carl Amery, Founding member of the German Green Party, quoted in Mensch & Energie, April 1983.

"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds." Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace, as quoted by Dixy Lee Ray in her book Trashing the Planet (1990).

"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. ...All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower, first executive director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute.

"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity‚s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight." David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

[Cannibalism is a] "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation."
Dr Lyall Watson, anthropologist, Commissioner for the International Whaling Commission, as quoted in the Financial Times, 15 July 1995.

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem." Dr Lamont Cole, Professor of Ecology, Cornell University, as quoted by Elizabeth Whelan in her book Toxic Terror.

"The world has cancer, and that cancer is man." Merton Lambert, former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation, quoted from Harpeth Journal, Dec. 18, 1962.

"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner, media mogul, as quoted in Audubon, November-December 1991.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

You had better listen closer to what the green agenda is really all about.

"Sustainability" means a huge population reduction. not North America reducing consumption.

Our economy is a consumption based economy so that means either the economy goes or the consumers go. Which do you prefer?

The green agenda is about sustainability, if we don't do anything the economy is going to go bust anyway as the environment collapses.

I'm not sure who you're refering to, but I don't recall many credible sources claiming we need to eliminate large numbers of the population. On the contrary, if we do nothing large areas of the planet will no longer be able to sustain our numbers.

Our economy is what we choose it to be, building smarter and using less energy doesn't take a technical breakthrough, is takes a social one. There is something to live for besides greed.

 

[petros]

The green agenda is about sustainability, if we don't do anything the economy is going to go bust as the environment collapses.

I'm not sure who you're refering to, but I don't recall many credible sources claimning we need to eliminate large numbers of the population. On the contrary, if we do nothing large areas of the planet will no longer be able to sustain our numbers.

Our economy is what we choose it to be, building smarter and using less enrgy doesn't take a technical breakthrough, is takes a social one.

Read the previous two posts.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Read the previous two posts.

I've got a limited amount of time.

Little of what gets said here gets listened to anyway.

 

[petros]

I've got a limited amount of time.

Little of what gets said here gets listened to anyway.

Apparently we all have limited time if the wishes of those notables quoted (which you choose to ignore) have their way.

 

[petros]

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the UN Earth Summit, June 1992.


Have we had a crash recently? Just wait until the real recession hits. Going by history we have just a few more months until things really get ****ty.

 

[Walter]

There's no doubt in my mind that before too many more years have gone by what we consider normal now will be considered a great luxury.

Please do not have children. Most parents want better things for their children than than they had, but you want us to revert to poorer times.

 

[AnnaG]

Please do not have children. Most parents want better things for their children than than they had

.... except a healthy planet.

 

[darkbeaver]

"The Green Revolution" christ I can't believe some people still believe that crap from the bankers. The struggle is between the people and the bankers, to win they will eliminate as many billions as they require to maintain and enhance their control.

 

[darkbeaver]

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialised civilisations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong, Secretary-General of the UN Earth Summit, June 1992.


Have we had a crash recently? Just wait until the real recession hits. Going by history we have just a few more months until things really get ****ty.

Many people like to stick to the bright side, they never see it coming.