Glenn Beck Says That US Wants Puerto Rico As A State
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I'm the one saying "residents of Puerto Rico can't vote in presidential elections and don't have a voting member in Congress". You're the one saying, "People can just rely on some second residence or move a long distance away to vote."
And I'M the one confusing a relatively simple process?
One talking head at a time. If this thread was "Keith Olbermann said something", I would be responding to that in kind. No matter what I think of Maddow or Olbermann doesn't change the fact that Beck is a shock jock who frequently gets facts wrong and just in general acts stupid.
General common sense rule: Don't get one's serious beliefs from a guy who uses Gallagher-like comedic props. It denigrates everyone involved if one does believe that.
"There is literally an entire list of common knowledge facts that Beck has gotten wrong. If the phony, televangelist TV crying isn't reason enough, these factual errors are the reason no one should take Beck seriously."
So, go right ahead and produce that list, preferebly along with credible support.
The only people who shed a genuine tear are the ones who care. Prove that when Glenn Beck shed a tear it was not genuine, for the love of his country, which is rapidly taken to the toilet bowl by OhBummer.
If YOU did not take Beck seriously, you would not waste your time talking about him. I can only pity you, along with those (and you probably among them) who take perverse pleasure demeaning a decent lady, Sarah Palin, who, in every respect, head and shoulders above the clown in the White House.
So, go right ahead and produce that list, preferebly along with credible support.
The only people who shed a genuine tear are the ones who care. Prove that when Glenn Beck shed a tear it was not genuine, for the love of his country, which is rapidly taken to the toilet bowl by OhBummer.
If YOU did not take Beck seriously, you would not waste your time talking about him. I can only pity you, along with those (and you probably among them) who take perverse pleasure demeaning a decent lady, Sarah Palin, who, in every respect, head and shoulders above the clown in the White House.
"One talking head at a time. If this thread was "Keith Olbermann said something", I would be responding to that in kind. No matter what I think of Maddow or Olbermann doesn't change the fact that Beck is a shock jock who frequently gets facts wrong and just in general acts stupid."
Keith Olbermann hasn't had a show in a long time that he did not disparage Glenn Beck. So, referring to Olbermann is entirely proper.
Same goes for Rachel Maddow, although his show is not quite as offensive and abrasive as Olbermann's.
Keith Olbermann hasn't had a show in a long time that he did not disparage Glenn Beck. So, referring to Olbermann is entirely proper.
Same goes for Rachel Maddow, although his show is not quite as offensive and abrasive as Olbermann's.
Sure thing. I know this list from when I watched Beck in order to judge the guy on the merits. Almost all of his merits are bad, is what I found because he always spread falsehoods to his unwitting audience that I immediately knew were false.
Example, from his Feb. 18, 2009 show:
"BECK: I saw something come across my desk the other day -- that the average UAW worker -- makes a hundred -- I think it was -- Gresh, what was it? A hundred and fifty-four or $152 an hour when you look at what?
OFF SCREEN: A hundred and fifty-four.
BECK: A hundred and fifty-four dollars an hour if you look at -- you know, if you add in all the benefits. A hundred and fifty-four dollars an hour? How could you possibly be competitive?"
The average United Auto Workers employee makes $55 an hour with all benefits included. Source: Sixth paragraph of the following article.
Automakers' Loans Hinge on 11th-Hour Talks With Unions - washingtonpost.com
Beck apparently got his $154 an hour number from dividing the amount of money US automakers spend on their employees by the number of estimated employees, which doesn't take into account that the automakers spend a lot of that money paying retirees. But of course, Beck's intention was to make unionized workers out to be rich and he only displayed his ignorance.
Icarus27k, a "LIST" implies MANY!
You managed to come up with ONE (1) item.
Even on that you did not say how a human robot (i.e. an assembly line attendee - hate to say worker) deserves or earns $55.00 per hour. For the "work" that drone does it's about $50.00/hour more than deserved or earned. Goes for all over-paid, underworked unionized leeches who were instrumental of sending jobs ashore with their insatiable greed.
Looking forward for more of your "LIST" of Beck's errors.
HAVE YOU EVEN EVER WATCHED HIS SHOW?
You managed to come up with ONE (1) item.
Even on that you did not say how a human robot (i.e. an assembly line attendee - hate to say worker) deserves or earns $55.00 per hour. For the "work" that drone does it's about $50.00/hour more than deserved or earned. Goes for all over-paid, underworked unionized leeches who were instrumental of sending jobs ashore with their insatiable greed.
Looking forward for more of your "LIST" of Beck's errors.
HAVE YOU EVEN EVER WATCHED HIS SHOW?
One of my favorite examples of Beck ignorance/tinfoil hat insanity/bad acting is from the July 31, 2009 episode of his show when he talks about the US government's Cars.gov website. The claim is that a warning box pops onto the website's screen whenever an American tries to use the site that says the US government can immediately take the person's PC as the government's property.
PolitiFact | On Glenn Beck's Fox News program, Guilfoyle claims government's Cash for Clunkers Web site would give government complete access to your home computer
He tries to demonstrate using a laptop, but he's not even on the right webpage and he doesn't click on anything, even though he acts like he does and then acts like he can't get the website to work.
The grain of truth in his claim is that there is a warning box on Cars.gov, but it was directed at car dealerships who were trading in clunkers to the government for money. That is, engaging in a financial transaction.
PolitiFact | On Glenn Beck's Fox News program, Guilfoyle claims government's Cash for Clunkers Web site would give government complete access to your home computer
He tries to demonstrate using a laptop, but he's not even on the right webpage and he doesn't click on anything, even though he acts like he does and then acts like he can't get the website to work.
The grain of truth in his claim is that there is a warning box on Cars.gov, but it was directed at car dealerships who were trading in clunkers to the government for money. That is, engaging in a financial transaction.
Beck's funny in his frothing-at-the-mouth manner.
I think it should be up to PR to decide if it wants to be a state or not. If it says, "no", then the US should be happy with that. It isn't like Beck gives a crap about PR or its status.
The loud-mouthed schnook will find something else to foam at the mouth about anyway.
I think it should be up to PR to decide if it wants to be a state or not. If it says, "no", then the US should be happy with that. It isn't like Beck gives a crap about PR or its status.
The loud-mouthed schnook will find something else to foam at the mouth about anyway.
Puerto Rico
WHY WOULD THE U.S. WANT PUERTO RICO AS A STATE?
THE VOTE FOR STATEHOOD
WHY WOULD THE U.S. WANT PUERTO RICO AS A STATE?
THE VOTE FOR STATEHOOD
One of the earlier votes on statehood took place back in 1967. In this vote approximately 60% of the voted wished to remain a commonwealth of the United States. Only 39% wanted statehood and
less than 1% called for independence. However, in 1993, Puerto Ricans again participated in a vote to determine the status of their future territorial relationship with the United States. The results were as followed:
[*]Statehood………….788,296 (46.3%)
[*]Commonwealth……826,326 (48.6%)
[*]Independence………75,620 (4.4%)
[*]Nulls…………………….10,748 (0.7%)
PuertoRico2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFOR#cite_note-0
From the August 11, 2009 episode of Beck's show.
BECK: "I want to talk to you about the green movement root. I couldn't figure out why the green movement -- here is Van Jones. This is a convicted felon, a guy who spent, I think, six months in prison after the Rodney King beating.
He was a black nationalist. He came out an anarchist and a communist. He then found the green movement was the new red. And now, he's our green jobs czar."
Former Obama administration official Van Jones was never a felon. He was an intern in San Francisco during the L.A. riots and served as a legal monitor for a student-led protest. He was arrested with some of the protesters, released, and he won a legal settlement for unlawful arrest against the City of San Francisco.
The US has a very high standard for proving libel, but calling someone a convicted felon when they're not is getting close to it.
BECK: "I want to talk to you about the green movement root. I couldn't figure out why the green movement -- here is Van Jones. This is a convicted felon, a guy who spent, I think, six months in prison after the Rodney King beating.
He was a black nationalist. He came out an anarchist and a communist. He then found the green movement was the new red. And now, he's our green jobs czar."
Former Obama administration official Van Jones was never a felon. He was an intern in San Francisco during the L.A. riots and served as a legal monitor for a student-led protest. He was arrested with some of the protesters, released, and he won a legal settlement for unlawful arrest against the City of San Francisco.
The US has a very high standard for proving libel, but calling someone a convicted felon when they're not is getting close to it.
Well Glenn says a lot of things... and indeed, some of what he says comes true.
But on the other hand.... I say a lot of things and some of what I say comes true too. Perhaps I'll get my own show someday where I can rant off about all sorts of things.
But just because someone has their own show and has a big mouth, doesn't mean they're always right. If anything, it's just speculation and guessing.
Even if the US wants Rico as a State, doesn't mean it'll ever happen.
Just look at China and Taiwan for an example....
Indeed, it just goes to show that Glenn's an idiot who'd rather spout of his own bias rhetoric then actually seek out the truth.
I always found it a bit odd how some in the US seem to use the term "Communist" or "Socialist" as some kind of hate or fearmongering term..... if someone doesn't fall in line with Beck's views, they're Communists or somehow hate America.
Heck in many US news reports I've watched over the years, many reporters seem to go the extra step in trying to brand China as evil as possible. What I mean is that whenever something in the news involves China, they don't just say "China" they say "Communist China"
I mean seriously, what's the point in pointing out they're Communist?
Nobody said "Democrat Canada" or "Democrat United States" or "Democrat UK".... so why continually identify China as "Communist China" other then to spin public opinion a certain way?
Because of America's financial problems it is time to either cut or stop funding the territories or make them states.
Cut them lose and let them fend for themselves or get them a stronger motivation in becoming states at least this way America would get more tax money.
Cut them lose and let them fend for themselves or get them a stronger motivation in becoming states at least this way America would get more tax money.
I'm not seeing any financial problems of the US. Certainly none that are "we better give our territories an ultimatum"-level problems.
The US has increased national debt. The worst recession since the 1930s will do that, and we're not going to have a chance to make a dent in it until the economy gets better.
The US has increased national debt. The worst recession since the 1930s will do that, and we're not going to have a chance to make a dent in it until the economy gets better.
