Glenn Beck Says That US Wants Puerto Rico As A State

[Liberalman]

Glenn Beck Says That US Wants Puerto Rico As A State

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/39780

Glen Beck an ultra right wing nut has predicted that America will force the US territory of Puerto Rico to become a state.

According to Glen Beck, Puerto Rico has been a territory of America since 1898 and has had three referendums on becoming a state, which the last one was in 1998 and the people turned it down saying they just like it as it is.

Glen Beck also said that the people of that territory do not pay any taxes but they get government handouts and have the full protection of the United States of America.

As I said Glen Beck is a right wing conspiracy person who looks at himself as a prophet of sorts but 70% of the time his predictions have come to fruition.

Glen Beck also has said that America is on the verge of becoming like Canada a Communist country.

Glen Beck should come to Canada for a reality check so he can get a different prospective.

Always yelling “The Sky Is Falling” can’t be good for the mind.

 

[Curiosity]

Liberalman

Whether you like or dislike Beck he has a point. The recent "Census" is just a preliminary hovering over those states who receive more than their fair share -
something to be considered while the U.S. plods marginally towards bankruptcy.

I didn't read Beck's report but here is a Conservative essay on the subject up
for consideration. It probably echos what Beck says and if Puerto Rico is to be
"statified" there are some other "territories" to be considered.... wonder why
only one is being targetted.

Puerto Rico Democracy Act ? Legislation Biased in Favor of Statehood | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

OK I just read Beck's essay - he does mention the other "territories" and I still
ask why they are not included?

How does Labrador and Newfoundland work it with Canada regarding their
independence - is it political or political and financial both?

 

[ironsides]

I herby bequeath to Canada my share of the American Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. I am doing this because being that you were Johnny come lately when everyone in North America received a tropical paradise but you. It will help you complete being a truly multicultural state.

 

[Kreskin]

If the Puerto Ricans don't want to become a State then sell the territory to China. That could paydown a lot of debt.

 

[Liberalman]

If anybody want to listen he is on today between 9-12 in the morning at
WIBX Live Player

 

[DurkaDurka]

I herby bequeath to Canada my share of the American Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. I am doing this because being that you were Johnny come lately when everyone in North America received a tropical paradise but you. It will help you complete being a truly multicultural state.

Nah, you keep your little chunk of paradise. Besides, where would you get baseball players then?

 

[ironsides]

Nah, you keep your little chunk of paradise. Besides, where would you get baseball players then?

Forgot about that. :smile:

 

[Liberalman]

How does Labrador and Newfoundland work it with Canada regarding their
independence - is it political or political and financial both?

Like the rest of the provinces

 

[Curiosity]

Like the rest of the provinces

Thanks Liberalman re Newfoundland and Labrador

I probably learned that in school and lost it the next day! Was a terrible student!

So, the territories to the USA should be submitting taxation as the rest of the nation does right? And the territories should either become independent of the
U.S. guardianship (whatever that is) or at least pay their share as the other
states do.

I don't know why it was set up and never changed....sounds like bad government to me....

 

[Icarus27k]

If anybody want to listen he is on today between 9-12 in the morning at
WIBX Live Player

I certainly will not be listening. It's pretty commonly accepted that Beck is a phony. He's more of a shock jock putting on a show than someone who really believes everything he says.

 

[YukonJack]

"I certainly will not be listening. It's pretty commonly accepted that Beck is a phony. He's more of a shock jock putting on a show than someone who really believes everything he says."

Typical liberal response. Your mind is made up before you know ANY of the facts.

Enjoy being ignorant. Looks good on you.

 

[ironsides]

If the Puerto Ricans don't want to become a State then sell the territory to China. That could paydown a lot of debt.

No,No, not China. Puerto Ricans are very possessive of their heritage to the point that you might call them bigoted, possibly racist. (proud racists) They barely tolerate the light skinned people who are Puerto Rican.

 

[Icarus27k]

"I certainly will not be listening. It's pretty commonly accepted that Beck is a phony. He's more of a shock jock putting on a show than someone who really believes everything he says."

Typical liberal response. Your mind is made up before you know ANY of the facts.

Enjoy being ignorant. Looks good on you.

Actually, I think what I said was the only sane, rational response. Beck really is more Howard Stern than William F. Buckley. I just can't believe so many people allow themselves to get played like a fiddle by him, seemingly without them showing any skepticism whatsoever.

There is literally an entire list of common knowledge facts that Beck has gotten wrong. If the phony, televangelist TV crying isn't reason enough, these factual errors are the reason no one should take Beck seriously.

 

[Icarus27k]

Glen Beck also said that the people of that territory do not pay any taxes but they get government handouts and have the full protection of the United States of America.


Residents of Puerto Rico pay ever US tax except federal income taxes since they both have Commonwealth of Puerto Rico taxes and can't vote in presidential elections and don't have any voting members of Congress.

Although, I do know the Democratic Party let's all the US terroritories vote in their presidential primaries. Meaning they were influential in the Hillary vs. Obama marathon from 2008.

 

[Curiosity]

Here is a limited look at the financial picture between the two nations

Puerto Rico Economy

There are some interesting issues regarding poverty level estimates for workers - and perhaps the landowners do not want to have to operate under federal guidelines as practiced in the U.S.

Thanks for putting up this topic - never gave Puerto Rico much more thought than their beaches and sunshine... obviously the basic stuff I focus on not reality....

 

[ironsides]

It is very easy for a person from Puerto Rico to vote, all they have to do is get a residence in say NY or anyplace on the mainland they want and vote their little hearts out. They need no paper when traveling to and from Puerto Rico, they are U.S. citizens.

 

[Icarus27k]

Actually no, it's not easy for people from Puerto Rico to vote. Voting rights is not dependent on whether one can just pack up and move somewhere. If I'm from New York, it would be a lot of trouble to vote for the US Senator from Oregon. Sure, in theory I could uproot myself and move to Oregon, but I might not have the money, time, or sentiment for Oregon.

It's not a good idea to minimize voting rights by saying. "You can just move somewhere else." It's just silly.

 

[ironsides]

Why would a New Yorker want to vote in Oregon? It is very easy for a Puerto Rican to vote in national elections, as I said all they have to do is take up residency in any state they want, vote and their vote will count along with others from that state in a Federal election. Most Puerto Ricans have a permanent residence in the continental U.S., and they are allowed to vote in both Federal elections and local Island elections. The individual only gets one vote, if they vote in NY that is it they are done, if the vote in Puerto Rico they are done. Just that the NY vote it will mean more and carry more weight. Your confusing what is a relatively simple process.

 

[EagleSmack]

Nah, you keep your little chunk of paradise. Besides, where would you get baseball players then?

The Dominican Republic of course.

 

[EagleSmack]

Actually, I think what I said was the only sane, rational response. Beck really is more Howard Stern than William F. Buckley. I just can't believe so many people allow themselves to get played like a fiddle by him, seemingly without them showing any skepticism whatsoever.

There is literally an entire list of common knowledge facts that Beck has gotten wrong. If the phony, televangelist TV crying isn't reason enough, these factual errors are the reason no one should take Beck seriously.

I would guess that Rachel Maddow and Keith Oberlman are respected journalist to you though.