Give your opinion on the CBC

#juan

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Wednesday's Child said:
Juan

You just pointed out my reasons for "competitive" information systems.

Television/Radio/Print should be giving the public reality - if there is nobody out there to refute what an organization publishes, they don't have any checks and balances - people have no alternative but to accept what they are given.

That is why I find "onesource" insufficient...and "onesource funded by government" even less than insufficient.

I am sorry about your financial state... :p


We have competitive information systems. CBC is just one of them. Would I pay more taxes to keep CBC? YES!

I never use just one source of news, but over the years, I've found that CBC is the most acurate and reliable source. I have many news sources bookmarked on the computer including CBC. In this day and age, we are virtually overloaded with information.

To be honest, our house is paid off and I wouldn't like to be paying off a fat mortgage on our pensions. Our financial state would be a little less comfortable if we were.

Cheers
 

Kreskin

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Who covers more on poverty? I searched the word "poverty" on the following sites:

CTV.ca - 35 results
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate/!ctv/Search?query=poverty&site_codename=ctv&x=39&y=11

Foxnews - 49 results
http://search.foxnews.com/_1_VDBUBZ04YC8E56__info.foxnws/search/web/poverty

CNN - 2659 results
http://search.cnn.com/pages/search.jsp?query=poverty

CBC - 4710 results
link

Granted the rate of poverty is higher in the US there doesn't appear to be many independent news media giving it much attention. Independents in Canada the same. CBC has a lot of coverage. Surprising that a government paid website would pay that much attention to poverty in its own country. How embarrassing it must be for the biased pro-government newshounds to be drawing attention to it.
 

Said1

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It would be interesting to see how many earning 9K are on welfare because that's roughly what their income is per yr, plus child tax which would another 2400 per yr, per kid (approx).
 

Curiosity

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Child Poverty Determination and Stats

As there are over fifty criteria for determining poverty level, these can rarely be grouped by region, urban or rural, ethnicity, family construct, number of parents/adults in family group, ages, primary language, education, job training, transportation availablity, disabilities, and so on.....because there are so many more issues within the family unit itself which impact "enough" to live on.

Putting up generalized levels of poverty is extremely difficult and while it has to be done to demonstrate a problem within a community, a province, or the entire country, it often gives a skewed picture - and depending upon the source (even the do-gooders) perhaps may represent in uninformed or skewed result.

Only when families are researched on an individual basis in a computerized system which is updated annually, will one ever get an accurate accounting.

Financial measurement such as $9,000 is as variable as the weather - what that sum represents to a family in one cirumstance may be wealth, and true third world poverty for another.

If families were able to input into a computer base system each year their family situation and financial situation - geographical and all the other necessaries - perhaps around Income Tax Time...
that source would be invaluable in getting to the more severe problems (especially if they were contained within a certain area)...but people don't like giving out honest information either because of the "personal and private withholding" even from the government ... as they fear punishment or retribution.
 

Curiosity

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Juan

Well we can set up a fun fer ya! Charity begins at home and all that....

Or I can offer to adopt you and the missus!! :p

Sometimes I think living sensibly regardless of what's in the savings sock and what we consider "assets" - brings more joy and challenge anyway. I find no fun (and rarely purchase anything) when I have some mad money at the end of the month and go shopping - I never seem to enjoy it as much as when I am totally broke and need a "fix" to buy something I don't really need.

It's all in our perception of what real wealth is..... you and your lady have it!!!
 

Kreskin

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The minimum annual income for a single senior in Canada is $12,936 per year. If one does not make a penny they will get $1,078 per month in OAS and GIS. If 9k is the basis for poverty in Canada then no senior in Canada is below the poverty line.

It's impossible to put a single number on poverty. Each individual has a unique set of basic living expenses.
 

Said1

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9k is probably a starting point because it's the average income most families are recieving on social assistance. Of course cost of living varies in different regions and people do make other income that they don't report, however in Canada, that rate is supposed to be the lowest possible rate a family can survive on. Weather one thinks it's a goldmine or not really releavent, IMHO.


Speaking of opinions and poverty, this morning, a pan handler asked me for some changed, which I obliged. Then he says "nice jacket, you must have a lot of money" in reference to the secondhand Nike jacket I was wearing. $5, quite the bargin. :D
 

#juan

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Juan

Well we can set up a fun fer ya! Charity begins at home and all that....

I will get a little empty dish and a spoon and have some pictures made. I will practice my forlorn, starving look, and we could post them around the forums. If all the members of this forum sent me a mere hundred dollars a month, I could live in the manner to which I would like to become accustomed.

Thanking you all in advance,

I remain..........#juan
 

Curiosity

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LOLOL Juan

Try to keep out your mansion, the plane, the tall masted ship and your racehorses from showing up on the photo ok??? hee
 

Kreskin

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Juan, we'll play 18 at Crown Isle then check to see how your poverty fund is coming along.
 

#juan

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I expect the fund to build slowly with Wednesday's Child throwing in the first few hundred a week as seed money. We can then announce the growing totals and that will spur on the rest of you to do as well. I really Appreciate this W.C.. You won't be forgotten. I have the deposit slips all made out, leaving blank only the amount, and the date.
 

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Re: RE: Give your opinion on the CBC

Kreskin said:
The minimum annual income for a single senior in Canada is $12,936 per year. If one does not make a penny they will get $1,078 per month in OAS and GIS. If 9k is the basis for poverty in Canada then no senior in Canada is below the poverty line.

It's impossible to put a single number on poverty. Each individual has a unique set of basic living expenses.

Exactly.

Students are usually in the poor category.

Many seniors are as well, though their living requirements are lower since they've usually paid for their house.
 

#juan

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Seriously,

Retirement is a great thing for simplifying your income tax return. With the exception of the odd, small, cost of living increase, my income is always the same. I do my income tax on line in about five minutes.
 

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Juan do you except de-funked shares in a Gold Mine and uncashed cheques from a pyramid scam the other half got involved in? I'd like to get this stuff out of the house before they audit us in May.
 

Kreskin

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Re: RE: Give your opinion on the CBC

Toro said:
Kreskin said:
The minimum annual income for a single senior in Canada is $12,936 per year. If one does not make a penny they will get $1,078 per month in OAS and GIS. If 9k is the basis for poverty in Canada then no senior in Canada is below the poverty line.

It's impossible to put a single number on poverty. Each individual has a unique set of basic living expenses.

Exactly.

Students are usually in the poor category.

Many seniors are as well, though their living requirements are lower since they've usually paid for their house.

Students really have it tough. Education costs and living expenses rise much faster than part time wages. Seniors can be a difficult group to gauge, especially in absolute theshholds. Lifestyles at 65 to 75-ish are generally more costly than 75 to 85-ish. Then around 85+ they rise substantially due to health.
 

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European politicians bribe journalists
By Dan Mitchell
Apr 6, 2006

Reporters in Washington have a left-wing bias, but at least they have an adversarial relationship with politicians. In Brussels (and Strasbourg), the press is slavishly favorable toward European Union institutions. In part, this reflects a leftist bias, but the the International Herald Tribune reports that journalists are getting paid by politicians to provide coverage. Combined with free meals, free phone calls, and other perks, it should come as no surprise that the press is failing to perform its basic function of independent and objective reporting:

The European Parliament is subsidizing journalists to cover its parliamentary sessions in Strasbourg, a move that legislators say aims to ensure that the EU's only democratically elected body is not ignored. As part of a program dating to the 1980s, journalists from across the EU member states are receiving travel and entertainment subsidies from the Parliament to help defray the cost of covering the legislature when it shuttles once a month to Strasbourg, in eastern France, from Brussels, journalists and legislators say… The funding for journalists can include payment of a first-class round- trip train ticket or an economy-class plane ticket to Strasbourg from any of the 25 EU countries and a daily stipend of €100 to cover hotel, food and entertainment over two days. About 60 journalists from across the bloc are invited to Strasbourg each month under the program… The Parliament also provides television journalists with unlimited use of free state-of-the-art television studios, free sound and camera equipment, and free two-person camera crews that can be borrowed for the day. …A…broadcaster, who like others interviewed for this article requested anonymity, said perks such as these had prompted journalists to refuse requests by editors to write stories on members' privileges and travel expenses at the Parliament, a topic of growing interest in Europe. "How can I expose such perks when I myself am benefiting from them?" the journalist asked. …
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Find this story at: http://www.townhall.com/blogs/c-log/Dan Mitchell/story/2006/04/06/192797.html
The government funds the CBC. Why should they be any different and bite the hand that feeds them?
 

Semperfi_dani

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RE: Give your opinion on

Ok..so my opinion won't count for beans, but damnit, i like the CBC. I like that you can get some good quality Canadian Programming. Cuz you know, i need 15,000 American Idol shows like I need a whole in my head. There are so few programs on CTV or Global that i could not get on my American counterpart station. Putting 16 thousand hours of news on just to fill your Canadian Content rules just does not cut it.

I want to see more Canadian drama's and shows. I want to see more Canadian actors and other artists showcased to promote.

And fine, CBC might be biased (although not as much as say Global is biased to the right ), but who freaking cares.
CBC supports Canadian programming and it provides a niche in the market. For the news, i routinely see good quality documentaries or features on topics that i would never see on any other station.

I like that its not flashy and inyour face gossipy news..but the good quality news that my grandparents used to watch.

And fine..our money goes into the CBC..which provides Jobs for Canadians (instead of just paying royalties to some American station to pay their workers). They provide an outlet for Canadian artists, which provides jobs for them. If the CBC were cut, what little funding Canadian artists get would be severed.

I can't imagine life growing up without shows/actors, ney, Canadian Institutions like Tommy Hunter, Red Green, Don Cherry, Mr. Dressup, Rick Mercer, The Entire Road to Avonlea, Degrassi...etc etc etc. There are so few heros as there are in Canada,...CBC is a good showcase for them.

My tax dollars if withheld form the CBC, will not go to starving children. It will just go to some big corporate program and what little bit of attention social issues in this country gets vis a vis the CBC will be gone.

So give me the CBC anyday of the week. I will gladly give my tax dollars over. If i had a complaint its that the CBC needs to have more focus over its programming.
 

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Tommy Hunter.


Forgot aboot him.


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