Give your opinion on the CBC

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Veterans Advocacy. At the time a number of soldier had returned from the Former Yugoslavia very sick and the government did not recognize PTSD. Anyhow it was a remembrance day interview and we discussed the bureacracy faced by Canadian soldiers after medical release in getting assistance from Veterans affairs.

It seems like a hundred years ago now,

 

[Jay]

The CBC is our network.

It isn't some damn government run brainwashing tool of the party in power. The CBC news is probably the most objective, reliable new source around. There are people who say the CBC is biased in favour of the Liberals. That is simply not true. During the last election, the CBC was as hard on the Liberals as CTV ever was. Some Americans on these forums throw up their hands at the thought of public television being funded by taxes. I wonder why Britain, Holland, France, Germany, Japan, Australia, all have publicly funded television networks. If you look into it, you will be hard pressed to find a country without publicly funded television. I repeat, CBC is our network. CBC provides a service that private networks would never provide.

Sure it does, this is why only left wing fundamentalists whine and cry when we threaten to take away their corporate welfare propaganda machine.

Do you know the PM hand picks the CBC president?

You would at least think the left could come up with a good reason to waste 1.5 billion dollars at the expense of the homeless et al.

 

[Jay]

You have over 1 million kids in poverty in Canada and you're concerned about the CBC? Surely the CBC can find a way to exist with funding by the government.

A million kids in poverty? I don't believe it, and further more it's none of your business. If we have ten million kids in poverty, you have at least ten times that number, probably more. Tell us about your wonderful health care system. Tell us about your ten trillion dollar debt. You are not in a position to give anyone advice on these matters. You have no idea what the CBC is, or what it does.

I do though.

You really don't like Americans do you Jaun?

 

[Jay]

First of all the BBC isn't funded with taxes. I don't know about the other countries, I never looked into it. Second, defending a television network that costs you one billion a year can easily take care of your child poverty that probably never view or listen to the CBC. And last but not least, it might be your network (plural), but it isn't the highest rated network in Canada, if you are so confident, have the people fund it directly as they do in Ontario (a local television station), put it to the test.

CBC activists also like to pretend that everyone in Canada is engaged with the CBC, the fact is it doesn't have half the viewer ship it needs to justify robbing the tax coffers for its funding.

http://www.realwomenca.com/newsletter/2004_jan_feb/article_8.html

This bias of the CBC is perhaps one of the most important reasons why this broadcaster is no longer attracting viewers as it once did. In fact, CBC's viewership has dropped precipitously for the past quarter century. According to a study in 2001, the CBC's viewership dropped to 7% from the 13% it had held between 1991 and 2000. This is a far more significant drop than that experienced by the private networks.

The rest of the article is worth the read too....

 

[Jay]

This inconsistency was too much for at least one Ottawa viewer who e-mailed CBC ombudsman, David Bazay as follows:

Would you be so kind as to explain to me why yesterday (Nov. 27) your network was so happy to revel in the glory of hearing that a Saskatchewan Alliance MP had some anti-gay remarks, whereas today I get absolutely no mention of David Kilgour (Liberal) and his anti-gay remarks?? I studied your website, "The National" and CBC Radio Ottawa (my backyard) and come up with nothing. Does the word "agenda" mean anything to you?

As one who was once told (verbatim) by a CBC Radio reporter that "The reason you don't think left-wing is because you're not educated enough" I'm a little sensitive to the subject.

To his astonishment, he received a response from none other than Tony Burman, Editor in Chief and Executive Director, CBC News, Current Affairs and Newsworld, who for once admitted to the CBC's unbalanced coverage.

Mr. Burman stated:

You wrote to take us to task for covering Canadian Alliance MP Larry Spencer's comments to The Vancouver Sun on homosexuals, but failing to cover Liberal MP David Kilgour's comments on same-sex marriage made the same day to an Alberta newspaper. You felt that it was unfair to cover one, but not the other.

I appreciate your point and I fully agree with you.

… However, the reason had nothing to do with a CBC "agenda" as you feared. The CBC is famously proud of its editorial independence. And I think you will find that independence amply and publicly demonstrated over the years.

Regrettably, in this case, our news gathering system failed. It did not work efficiently enough in bringing the story - and its importance - to the attention of the editors and producers preparing news programs. We should have done better. As a result, over the last few days we have undertaken a thorough review of the reasons the system failed in this instance with a view to taking the appropriate steps to ensure that it does not happen again.

What more do you want...do you need the CBC to come out and say it has a Liberal bias?

Let's stop fooling ourselves and stop pretending that the CBC has any sort of Social Conservative values in any way.....in fact I wonder of there is a conservative person in the building.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Personally I don't mind the CBC for it's differences to the mainstream or "pop" TV. I flip through CTV and Global, and find that besides the occasional canadian reference or show (Corner Gas = Good), the format of those channels are carbon copies of other more popular channels, ABC, NBC etc....

That doesn't mean I avoid them, but when I occasionally flip by CBC, I find the differences in format a bit of a relief since it stands out from the cookie cutter stations.

The same goes with the Radio stations. I can turn on Magic 93 here on the Island here, and It's no different than 500 radio stations I've heard across the country. I do find the music CBC radio a little difficult to stomach sometimes, but there other programs are quite interesting, and you won't find shit like that on one of the "American Top 40" channels.

 

[Curiosity]

Remote area broadcasting

This can be accomplished by commercial broadcasting as well and I don't see why people are unconcerned that a government has a captive audience to hear their messages (which are inarguably political in nature in the newscasts and some of their programming)....

Millionaires could find a great tax break in creating another broadcasting network explicitly for remote area broadcasting where they can also sell commercial air time geared to the necessities of life or emergency information and news.

People are being denied a choice by their government...with information which is inaccurate. Even more strange is the information is being broadcast by a government-funded news and entertainment outlet which is dedicated to promote a "Canadian Way of Life"....who decides what that is?

Doesn't anyone find this rather strange?

I honestly believe people are only informed when they have a choice of what they listen to and a button then can turn OFF when they wish.

The CBC "sounds" like a great thing - and I would give it my blessing if there was at least another source for the remote areas to receive information as well.

The mind is a funny thing and if you hear something often enough you actually believe it to be true because nobody questions it...as there are no "questions" put forth.

Is that what Canada wants for its people? No choice? What is the government afraid of if it doesn't encourage competition and choice?

 

[#juan]

W.C. wrote:

People are being denied a choice by their government...with information which is inaccurate.

It's not as if the other network was being denied access to the nothern rural markets. They are not interested. I am sure that if Global(CTV) applied to CRTC to broadcast in these areas they would be welcomed but they don't.

I have yet to see inacurate news reporting by CBC, who bend over backwards to be correct, and politically correct, in everything.

 

[Jay]

Some people like to pretend this isn't political, but the very mandate of the CBC is a political one.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Re: RE: Give your opinion on the CBC

Some people like to pretend this isn't political, but the very mandate of the CBC is a political one.

All stations seem to be whether they are Gov't sponsord or not. I see Bias in Global too, so in this case the best you can do is at least balance what you watch so you can experience left & right bias equally.

They say after all, too much of one thing is a bad thing.

 

[Jay]

I agree that every station has a bias, that's life and something we should recognize not deny. For the left to pretend that CBC isn't political screams they are in denial.

In order for us to be "free" we should be free from government media direction, and I think the CBC has proven they are on the Liberals side, as the quotes I posted above prove.

The left screams about corporate welfare and the CBC and its fallout is full to the brim with it. Where are all the anti-corporate welfare people when it comes to the CBC? Why is it a moot point when it is the lefts little projects? I say they need the CBC to get votes and promote "their" idea of Canada.

If the CBC is so loved then the lovers can pay for it some how.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Don't forget that PC Defense Minister Perrin Beatty was appointed CEO of the CBC. Why not David Collinette, or Sheila Copps>

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Don't forget that PC Defense Minister Perrin Beatty was appointed CEO of the CBC. Why not David Collinette, or Sheila Copps>

 

[Jay]

Or Jay?

I would make a great CBC President.

 

[Said1]

Remote area broadcasting

This can be accomplished by commercial broadcasting as well and I don't see why people are unconcerned that a government has a captive audience to hear their messages (which are inarguably political in nature in the newscasts and some of their programming)....

Millionaires could find a great tax break in creating another broadcasting network explicitly for remote area broadcasting where they can also sell commercial air time geared to the necessities of life or emergency information and news.

People are being denied a choice by their government...with information which is inaccurate. Even more strange is the information is being broadcast by a government-funded news and entertainment outlet which is dedicated to promote a "Canadian Way of Life"....who decides what that is?

Doesn't anyone find this rather strange?

I honestly believe people are only informed when they have a choice of what they listen to and a button then can turn OFF when they wish.

The CBC "sounds" like a great thing - and I would give it my blessing if there was at least another source for the remote areas to receive information as well.

The mind is a funny thing and if you hear something often enough you actually believe it to be true because nobody questions it...as there are no "questions" put forth.

Is that what Canada wants for its people? No choice? What is the government afraid of if it doesn't encourage competition and choice?

There is more to CBC than news. There are also other news broadcasters in Canada other than CBC. We do have choice.


As #Juan pointed out, no one is stopping anyone from broadcasting in remote areas, but there doesn't seem to be anyone racing to do this - to my knowledge. I think that's a great idea, you can only watch so much hockey and Ann of Green Gables.

Even if government removed funding, I really don't see the content or presentation of CBC news and documentaries changing drastically, but we may not have the tacky shows we all love, but hate to admit.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: RE: Give your opinion on the CBC

Or Jay?

I would make a great CBC President.

LOL Now that's just silly.
M

 

[Jay]

If infrastructure was the REAL issue the government could simply pay for repeaters to remote areas. No one would have a problem with that.

 

[Curiosity]

WOW you guys seem to be fine with a monopoly....

(except Jay haha)...

I find the potential for any news outlet to influence the thoughts and direction of the people (even if the programming has entertainment and sports interpersed)....and for a government to operate the only outlet in remote areas is frightening to me.

If you people feel comfortable and unthreatened by it then things are fine at my place at the table - even if I disagree.

Besides my dad is hollering at me from heaven trying to disown me - he loved his daily "shot" of CBC....

If no other commercial broadcaster has picked up a potential market in the remote areas, no doubt they have impossible odds to meet which were installed by the government, and makes it illogical for them to set up any investments in those areas.

It isn't always about money or even competition.....it's about delivery of programming and information as well to people who have no access except by radio/television and hopefully now the internet.

Some of the wealthiest native American groups might be interested in setting up this kind of facility to serve their brothers and sisters. I'll bet they would still have to abide by the set in stone Canadian Government laws, even though they are a single nation unto themselves.

 

[missile]

With the new satellite radio services now available,there is no reason for any small region to be without all the news,sports and talk they can stand. People only want the CBC because they think it is free[but it's not!]

 

[Sassylassie]

In a perfect world Rural areas would have the choice to pick and choose what they want to watch, but that's not their reality.

It really pisses me off when some city slicker starts ranting about the CBC, why are the words to big for you to understand? Get over it. Every thread gets hijack by the left the right and the moon drinkers. Just because you can doesn't mean you should! Pist, I am not being brain washed by CBC. I take everything I hear on the news with a grain of salt, CNN yea like that's real news, but thanks for the condesending remark. Why is it that you die hard Political Party Fanatics pontificate but can never seperate your beloved parties ideals from independant thought? Can you think for yourself? I don't need to quote some snotty book to have a conversation.

You leave the CBC alone if they cancel Cornation Street you will not want to have a conversation with me ever again. Trust me, it will be bloody, and none of it will be my blood.

Hey Beav, thanks for the laugh I thought I was the only one who remembered that god awful show.