Girl dead for not wearing burka

[Niflmir]

As usual, the forum likes to emphasize tragedies caused by Muslims but fails to realize that Christianity has more than its share of incidents:

hate cult death:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17487/remnant-fellowship-7


Christian Science deaths:

http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/victims.htm


''devout'' parents abuse child to death:

http://www.nospank.net/n-q83r.htm



And need i remind you that over one million Iraqis are dead today because Bush claims to have been inspired by God to invade Iraq.

Zzarchov beat you to the punch on this one. In any case it is not normal to ignore the context of a given tragedy during its discussion unless one wishes to make generalizations or contrasts. My generalization was: "Religion (as opposed to spirituality) engenders violence," the crusades spring to mind. The Buddhists have a bloody history as well, according to a somewhat dubious source... maybe I should go look that up.

 

[gopher]

For some reason this forum has always been a hot bed of anti Islamic hate. I wonder how many hate filled threads we have had on this topic. If anyone has an idea, please let me know.

 

[jimshort19]

Gopher and the Haters

I have not observed that this forum has hate threads, but I have only seen this thread and a sample of the so many that there are on Canadian Content. This thread renders a variety of opinion, some of it emotional, that may well represent the nation, not for good or ill, but as it is in fact.

The Muslims are in transition in the West, moreso than in the East. The West popularized steam in the 19th century and the Eastern Muslims have caught on. The West discovered women in the 20th century and the Eastern Muslims have not caught on yet. But they do and they will, as surely as the East follows the West, as surely as the Woman Age followed the Man Age, and is here to stay.

 

[Unforgiven]

For some reason this forum has always been a hot bed of anti Islamic hate. I wonder how many hate filled threads we have had on this topic. If anyone has an idea, please let me know.

Them there is jihading words buckaroo! :smile:

I think you read alot more into a thread than is really there. Anti-islaamic hate filled threads? Nah, emotional indeed, but I don't think hate filled is the right ticket for this.

 

[lone wolf]

Though hateful posts are rare, thoughtless ones are common enough. That's as much a trait of humanity as sifting between lines and manipulating words to make the statement one seeks. The truth is, we're all a lot closer than we're comfortable in admitting.

Woof!

 

[#juan]

CTV News reported many of Aqsa's fellow students have the same clothing issue with their parents. She just wanted to fit in. Teen-age rebellion is nothing new. I remember having the same battle with my Dad over long hair, scruffy blue jeans and the guitar I wore on my back. The battle may have been over the burka, but I doubt if it was religion based.

Woof!

Certainly this conflict that ended with the daughter being throttled was religion based. It was the father's twisted religious concepts that drove him to strangle his daughter because she wouldn't cover up with the hijab. These same twisted concepts cause a rape victim to receive worse punishment than the men who raped her, or women being stoned to death for imagined slights perceived by husband or family. It is insanity.

 

[lone wolf]

Certainly this conflict that ended with the daughter being throttled was religion based. It was the father's twisted religious concepts that drove him to strangle his daughter because she wouldn't cover up with the hijab. These same twisted concepts cause a rape victim to receive worse punishment than the men who raped her, or women being stoned to death for imagined slights perceived by husband or family. It is insanity.

The girl was 16. How many 16 year-olds have you ever known who want to be their parents? Under other circumstances, the battle could have been one over skirt length or eating cold pizza for breakfast. I think it had more to do with control issues than religion.

Woof!

 

[Logic 7]

heh heh heh

They guy is charged with murder. That call to 911 should probably come back to haunt him should he enter and not guilty plea.

The thread isn't racist at all. Though I think we all should be ashamed that this happened in Canada where we try to have safe guards against this sort of thing. Clearly mor ework needs doing in that regard.

Evidence to support stupidity? I don't think you quite understand the proper meaning of that word. It's not indicative in it's use here for sure.

I hope your day gets a little better from here on. :smile:

The guy is charged with murder or not, doesnt prove at all , the position of this article, I SAY AGAIN, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS ARTICLE THAT PROVES WHAT THAT ARTICLE TRY TO MAKE US BELIEVE.NOTHING AT ALL.

However Juan and cie came to conclusion withouth even trying to think or even use their brain.

Knowing the credibility of Canadian journalism( remember the 17 terrorist who were supposed to blow up harper?) there is nothing that proves that this father killed his daughter for the reason mentioned in the article.

Sad for those who hate muslim to their teeth, i admit.

 

[Logic 7]

Certainly this conflict that ended with the daughter being throttled was religion based. It was the father's twisted religious concepts that drove him to strangle his daughter because she wouldn't cover up with the hijab. These same twisted concepts cause a rape victim to receive worse punishment than the men who raped her, or women being stoned to death for imagined slights perceived by husband or family. It is insanity.

Nope, use your brain Juan, nothing in what you claim, seem to be true, get real once and for all.

 

[#juan]

The guy is charged with murder or not, doesnt prove at all , the position of this article, I SAY AGAIN, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS ARTICLE THAT PROVES WHAT THAT ARTICLE TRY TO MAKE US BELIEVE.NOTHING AT ALL.

That's a big relief. You mean the girl is still alive and well and it was all a big joke. Thank goodness.

However Juan and cie came to conclusion withouth even trying to think or even use their brain.

The original article stated that the man called 911 and said he killed his daughter. The same article said that the father and the daughter had some history of conflict over the wearing of the hijab. The article also stated that the brother tried to misdirect the police and would be charged with obstruction of justice. The article didn't have absolute proof. What article does?


Knowing the credibility of Canadian journalism( remember the 17 terrorist who were supposed to blow up harper?) there is nothing that proves that this father killed his daughter for the reason mentioned in the article.

Sad for those who hate muslim to their teeth, i admit.

I don't hate Muslims. I just hate some of the things they do.

 

[jimshort19]

Article Not Guilty

"there is nothing that proves that this father killed his daughter for the reason mentioned in the article."

The article is innocent, only the deductive reader should be silenced. Time will tell enough, if not all, and tell by the free press in the Canadian public arena, who did what. Judgement will not be reserved. In the meantime the good lynch mob is ready to throw impotent insults upon the most likely murderer, the confessor, and whatever his means and motives were. My kneejerk reaction is in concert with the mob, but I hold out a hope that this woman-child was not struck down to death in the name of piety because she dared to be free. Surely this would blaspheme Islam, Allah, and whatever other religions and Gods are good. No one has yet suggested that this death is the will of Allah, executed by his martyr girl or her holy hit man father.

Whatever offense is perceived is a real cultural tension here and now and tommorrow. We have to ride this crap out.

 

[gopher]

``I have not observed that this forum has hate threads, but I have only seen this thread and a sample of the so many that there are on Canadian Content.``


You are relatively new here. Hit the search button for some past hate threads and you will see a great many.

True, we have fewer today than we have seen in the past. And, as usual, people often reply by pointing out that Christians engage in far more hateful behavior but those posts are ignored by the Islamophobes. Note, for example, how I indicated several instances where children died because of Christian parental abuse but how nobody answered my post.

Happens all the time. And it will happen again.

 

[jimshort19]

Gopher

I do hope that you are not one of them. The residential schools myth is a Mohammedan plot. The caper that the Zlims could tar the broad spectrum of Christian denominations with one brushstroke of buggery and murder was too much for them to resist. What gets me is how those Indians went along with them in court. And I didn't see a Muslim there. Clever bastards!

 

[lone wolf]

I do hope that you are not one of them. The residential schools myth is a Mohammedan plot. The caper that the Zlims could tar the broad spectrum of Christian denominations with one brushstroke of buggery and murder was too much for them to resist. What gets me is how those Indians went along with them in court. And I didn't see a Muslim there. Clever bastards!

Y'know ... Christmas presents look pretty neat when they're wrapped in tissue-thin printed page....

Woof!