The Bible was not written in Middle Ages Latin. It was written in Hebrew. My earlier post references original words in Hebrew. It does not specifically indicate that homosexuality was the problem. But if that's what you wish to believe, so be it.
Which post number referenced the Hebrew because that also can mean anal sex (usually between men). Pay attention to the 3rd definition. Lot specifically mentions virgin daughters would be given to the men to do with as they saw fit if they would leave the strangers alone.
The Bible doesn't use the word 'sodomy', my question was, is the word 'sodomy' based on a reference to Sodom in the OT. What does your reply have to do with that?The post from a dictionary was from the middle ages.
ידע
1) to know
a) (Qal)
1) to know
a) to know, learn to know
b) to perceive
c) to perceive and see, find out and discern
d) to discriminate, distinguish
e) to know by experience
f) to recognise, admit, acknowledge, confess
g) to consider
2) to know, be acquainted with
3) to know (a person carnally)
4) to know how, be skilful in
5) to have knowledge, be wise
b) (Niphal)
1) to be made known, be or become known, be revealed
2) to make oneself known
3) to be perceived
4) to be instructed
c) (Piel) to cause to know
d) (Poal) to cause to know
e) (Pual)
1) to be known
2) known, one known, acquaintance (participle)
f) (Hiphil) to make known, declare
g) (Hophal) to be made known
h) (Hithpael) to make oneself known, reveal oneself
I have read the bible several times. My interpretation is nothing like yours.
Since you loath God that is pretty obvious that we differ in all areas. That you accept that sodomy is a normal desire between two men (and therefore morally and socially acceptable) doesn't mean you are going to find that the Holy Bible agrees with that in any form or manner.
When people can come on a public forum and condemn others to burn in a lake of fire for eternity,
For something that the God has determined is adultery? Go ahead, post a link to any post from any thread where I have ever said what you accuse me of saying. Go ahead, failure to do so means you are a liar.
Is this part of the new 'offend no-one' internet laws. What about blatant liars, like you in this very post. Offer some proof...come on show the world that you have some grain of truth in you. A liar in one instance usually a liar in another instance, let's see if this one post has more lies from a (soon to be proved by your inability to back up what you proclaim as being factual) liar.
That doesn't exclude those who are non-believers from being sent to hell for a thousand years, which is a lot less that eternity and hell is more hospitable than the fiery lake. At least the ones sent to hell are sin-free when they are retrieved by God at judgment Day.
to condemn the actions of others (homosexuals. liberals and women who make the very difficult decision to abort their fetus, etc.)
Go ahead, where have I ever said abortion was a crime against God. Before you put words in my mouth make sure you can supply some proof. It's quite true that God sees life existing at the moment of conception so those lives that are lost before the first breath of life (intentionally of accidentally) are still in line for resurrection to life. So there you go, another error in your thinking about what I believe. Since you have read the Bible (twice, lol) you must have come across the verse that states this as so. If not then it is quite likely that you lied about how much you have read in Scripture.
based on a book that has been proven by history and by science to be fraudulent,
Goody, you must have a link to this report, please post it or is this another of your lies?
it is everybody's duty who knows the truth to expose those people and their belief as fraudulent.
Rather than include everybody, lets just deal with you. Lets explore your past to see if there are personal events that could be considered to be a driving force behind your obsession with demeaning God or anybody that is a believer in God as defined by the Bible (rather than your convoluted definition of who you see as being God).
This particular area seems to be as good a place to start as any, were you sodomized by an 'figure of authority from some Church'?
If christians have a right to come on here spouting hatred and making false statements and accusations about others, It is our duty to call them on it.
Unless you are a group it is 'your' (singular)duty. Here again you can prove yourself not to be a liar by supplying references to post(s) where I (a God fearing Christian) have done what you have accused me of doing.
That is not trolling, it is a counter point to the self righteous condemnation of people who are not here to defend themselves and to show others how nasty the practice of condemning others is.
So now you are defending people who never have, nor never will, read certain posts in certain threads on a forum they have never heard of. That's quite the mission you gave yourself. How is what you are doing different from what you say you are protecting others from? It certainly seems to be a form of "to show others how nasty the practice of condemning others is".
I am here because you are here spouting lies.
You keep saying that, no proof is shown that you can (or ever will) supply that shows that God is non-existence in more than just your life. That is only proof of you being a hollow shell spiritually, or something similar.
BTW, "to know someone" may just be that you know who they are, not that they are engaged in sex that offends your sensibilities.
That could be very well for somebody called a stranger. Lot and his family lived in Sodom so how could those words be used when applied to his own daughters, expecially when virgin is specifically mentioned. Having read the Bible twice you most likely have another reference to back up you theory, please post it.
Ge:19:8:
Behold now,
I have two daughters which have not known man;
let me,
I pray you,
bring them out unto you,
and do ye to them as is good in your eyes:
only unto these men do nothing;
for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
That they are gay is your interpretation. That you are fixated on homosexuality should be of concern to you.
They also died in the fire that followed. Their days of being gay are over. In this next reference from Scripture do you see any place for any adulterers let alone two men who want to sodomise each other?
M't:22:30:
For in the resurrection they neither marry,
nor are given in marriage,
but are as the angels of God in heaven.
I was going to answer MHz too Cliffy, but you've said exactly what I would have said, so I won't bore the forum members by saying it again, except to respond specifically to the sentence where he names me, "...you and Dex have read parts of it..." I've read it all MHz, several times, in several versions, and none of them say what you think they do.
The very same eh? Prove all his points by posting references to all his claims about me, you can't which makes you as big a liar as Cliffy.
So this isn't the resurrection of dead people based on the NT reference that the dead will arise?
1Co:15:12:
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co:15:13:
But if there be no resurrection of the dead,
then is Christ not risen:
1Co:15:14:
And if Christ be not risen,
then is our preaching vain,
and your faith is also vain.
Eze:37:5:
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones;
Behold,
I will cause breath to enter into you,
and ye shall live:
Eze:37:6:
And I will lay sinews upon you,
and will bring up flesh upon you,
and cover you with skin,
and put breath in you,
and ye shall live;
and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze:37:7:
So I prophesied as I was commanded:
and as I prophesied,
there was a noise,
and behold a shaking,
and the bones came together,
bone to his bone.
Eze:37:8:
And when I beheld,
lo,
the sinews and the flesh came up upon them,
and the skin covered them above:
but there was no breath in them.
Eze:37:9:
Then said he unto me,
Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy,
son of man,
and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Come from the four winds,
O breath,
and breathe upon these slain,
that they may live.
Eze:37:10:
So I prophesied as he commanded me,
and the breath came into them,
and they lived,
and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
Eze:37:11:
Then he said unto me,
Son of man,
these bones are the whole house of Israel:
behold,
they say,
Our bones are dried,
and our hope is lost:
we are cut off for our parts.
Eze:37:12:
Therefore prophesy and say unto them,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
O my people,
I will open your graves,
and cause you to come up out of your graves,
and bring you into the land of Israel.
Eze:37:13:
And ye shall know that I am the LORD,
when I have opened your graves,
O my people,
and brought you up out of your graves,
Eze:37:14:
And shall put my spirit in you,
and ye shall live,
and I shall place you in your own land:
then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it,
and performed it,
saith the LORD.
