Gap between rich and poor widens in Canada

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The "subject" being.

People giving money to charities and your confusion as too how the amount can be so high.

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People giving money to charities and your confusion as too how the amount can be so high.





My confusion remains to be seen, but certainly less than yours. I said charities, you brought up churches which is just one charity of thousands. Am I wrong in surmising that the greatest number of donations to churches is comprised of a couple of dollars in the collection plate? There are several kinds of links!
 
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AND what is the accumulated total of individual deposits to collection plates of all the churches in Canada? :smile:

That is an irrelevant question. Not every person that donates to churches puts there donation in the collection plate.
 

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That is an irrelevant question. Not every person that donates to churches puts there donation in the collection plate.

The point I was taking issue with is that the average charitable donation is $600 (that figure would be derived by dividing the total amount donated by the number of donations) and I think the number is far lower than that given the vast number of donations consisting of change dumped in kettles and collection plates. Also schools raise a lot of money donated by the students a nickel and a dime at a time.
 
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The point I was taking issue with is that the average charitable donation is $600 (that figure would be derived by dividing the total amount donated by the number of donations) and I think the number is far lower than that given the vast number of donations consisting of change dumped in kettles and collection plates. Also schools raise a lot of money donated by the students a nickel and a dime at a time.
Now Now! Play nice. Do I always have to play referee?

The government should revoke all religious tax exempt status. Religion is just business. They should only get tax exemption for money spent on charitable work.

Since churches do have tax exemption I guess it would be near impossible to get any kind of figure on what the average annual donations would work out to.
 
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Now Now! Play nice. Do I always have to play referee?

The government should revoke all religious tax exempt status. Religion is just business. They should only get tax exemption for money spent on charitable work.

Since churches do have tax exemption I guess it would be near impossible to get any kind of figure on what the average annual donations would work out to.

You're a good referee, Cliff, but I can understand how it can be challenging at times. :lol:
 

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The Occupy Movement is proven right today and I think the movement will grow
it won't be in tent cities but the sentiments will soon it will rise again. Resentment
will grow and grow quickly. We are a world that is disillusioned and angry about
mounting debt and now jobs, increased taxes for the average guy and no taxes
for the rich. The fact is the people who have been running the governments and
the economy have made one giant mess and people are educated now and they
are not going to take this lying down,
I think this could be the beginning of the end for the ultra conservative movement
people out of work want something new. We have not heard the last of this.
Hope your right.
 

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Canada's rich still getting richer: OECD | Economy | News | Financial Post

I'm wondering if there is a way for the rich to invest in things to improve the lot of the poor without hurting the rich, but at the same time creating opportunities (not handouts) for the poor.


Education, education, education. Teach a man to fish.

Beyond that, we can look at codetermination laws to give workers more of a voice in company operations.

Also, we can look at making cities more poor-friendly by building more walking paths and cycling paths between residential and business areas of the city.

They got rich by hurting the poor. Why would they have a change of heart?

May be often true, but certainly not always as yoyu seem to be trying to portray the situation.
 

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More Canadians giving – and giving more – to charity: Statscan

Canadians gave more to charity in 2010, showing signs that philanthropic giving is rebounding after the last two years of recession.

Statistics Canada data released Monday show that tax filers claimed just under $8.3-billion in 2010, up 6.5 per cent from 2009. At the same time, the number of donors increased 2.2 per cent to just over 5.7 million Canadians.

While the percentage of Canadians claiming donations has been steadily dropping since 1997, the figure also climbed back slightly to 23.4 per up from the all-time low of 23.1 per cent.

The national median donation was $260 in 2010, which was also $10 more than the median in 2009.

More Canadians giving – and giving more – to charity: Statscan - The Globe and Mail

I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't the average total claim per income tax return consisting of the sum of several donations? :smile:
 
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The further the gap widens between the rich and the poor the further our society deteriorates.

BTW what kind of moron thinks the rich are taxed enough? There have been rich people like Bill Gates admitting they don't get taxed enough and some even saying they should be taxed more.
 

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Now Now! Play nice. Do I always have to play referee?

The government should revoke all religious tax exempt status. Religion is just business. They should only get tax exemption for money spent on charitable work.

Since churches do have tax exemption I guess it would be near impossible to get any kind of figure on what the average annual donations would work out to.

Actually Cliffy that information is available on the CRA website. They post the returns that charities file, you can look it up. All you need is the name of the charity.
 

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Actually Cliffy that information is available on the CRA website. They post the returns that charities file, you can look it up. All you need is the name of the charity.
Are moneys collected during services or given to churches considered charitable donations? I thought religious tax exemptions were not the same as the tax exemption for charitable, non-profit organizations, covered by different statutes.
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't the average total claim per income tax return consisting of the sum of several donations? :smile:

It's not an average...the article says median. That means that 50% of Canadians donated more than $260, and 50% of Canadians donated less than $260. The median is the middle value, not the average (mean) of all values.
 

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Are moneys collected during services or given to churches considered charitable donations? I thought religious tax exemptions were not the same as the tax exemption for charitable, non-profit organizations, covered by different statutes.

They all have to file an Information Return. And I've prepared them for a church before. And yes it all counts as donations, although it's "non-receipted" donations I believe on the return.