Friendly Fire Payments

I think not

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My morals have nothing to do with this. You seem to be chiding us for giving only a measly $9,000.00 per person when America the wonderful seems to give only a few hundred. Of course it should be cheaper when you buy in large quantities.

Well I don't expect you to get it #juan, but I will give it a shot.

America the "wonderful" is as guilty as Canada the "merciful".

There was a news release recently which claimed the US paid $4,000 for accidentally killing a 9 year old girl.

Unlike you, I was outraged.

To suggest somehow four thousand, nine thousand or even twenty thousand is enough "compensation" for a human being, and wiping your hands clean and feeling all smug about it, really spins my stomach.

On the other hand, I expect this from you, and Praxius. I admit Karrie caught me off guard.

Oh well, live and learn.
 

#juan

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If I had my way ITN, we wouldn't be there fighting this bloody oil war. The war on terror has long be lost in the murk. For the most part Canada is there at the behest of the U.S. If we have to be there, and in the course of the war we happen to kill civilians who are not trying to kill us and damage their property, surely some recompense is in order. It is not putting a set value on a human life. It is adding a tiny bit of humanitarian aid where it is most needed. Another thought is that though these people did not try to kill us this week, they probably did last week.
 

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On the other hand, I expect this from you, and Praxius. I admit Karrie caught me off guard.

jeeze... I feel a tad left out... :p

well whether you caught my earlier post or not, I was basically asking what would be preferable - and to make it clear here - I'm not in the least interested in tying this issue to a Canadians vs Americans situation. This is about acts of humanity in response to acts of inhumanity.

What, I wonder, would you like see done differently? (barring the obvious preferable choice of stopping the carnage altogether)

Would significantly larger amounts reduce the insult? How much larger? What is right, and what is feasible?
 

karrie

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The answer to your first question is never. This is the thrid time however when I point out an "injustice" you automatically spin it to what the US does is worse, so then you must be better, even if we are throwing pennies at the families victims.

I simply said that article was what I had found in response to juan's question, and the question others had asked throughout as to whether or not other countries do the same. I wasn't spinning it. Merely providing a broader view as to what modern practice is.

BTW, I have no control what my government does, as I am sure you have no control over yours. That doesn't mean I think Canadians are responsible for this shameful decision, but rather those in charge are.

It's a shame really, I was under the impression you were above nationalistic broohaha.

My apologies for my error, I assure you it won't happen again.

Again, I'm merely providing a global perspective since I've asked a few times and gotten no replies, as to when such practices started, and which countries participate. I know you weren't part of it, and have been painted guilty by association, but, the opening posts in this thread were a direct shot at one country for doing such things.



No $0 isn't preferable, but that doesn't mean $9,000 is any better.

Perhaps you need to place yourself in the families position and tell me how $9,000 or a few hundred dollars would seem to you. Somehow I doubt you be "happy" with that.

In my opinion, if a war is justified, then it's needed and justified, and human life is the cost of bringing about change. The instant some officer came to me offering money, I'd highly question what it is they had to apologize for. It's symptomatic of these forces not being there out of necessity. IMO.
 

Avro

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And what would you have wanted in payment? You do know it was an accident right? The Canadian soldier that put a bullet into his buddy in a tent in Afghanistan and killed him...was that OK?

I am a veteran and I am not treated like crap.

So there are no issues with the treatment of U.S veterans?

A simple yes or no will do.
 

einmensch

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Tell you what --Think about your child getting blown away--bet a $100,000 would make it all worth while--well better than nothing- Baby, if it were my son or daughter I want him/her dead and the $100,000 shoved up-
I guess you don't feel that way??--better than nothing -what an insult- but there it is custom
 

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So there are no issues with the treatment of U.S veterans?

A simple yes or no will do.

No if you want a simple answer. I come from a family that is chock full of military vets...no complaints here.
 

Colpy

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Tell you what --Think about your child getting blown away--bet a $100,000 would make it all worth while--well better than nothing- Baby, if it were my son or daughter I want him/her dead and the $100,000 shoved up-
I guess you don't feel that way??--better than nothing -what an insult- but there it is custom

Geez, Einmensch, that's 20 times what Sadaam and other Arab states used to pay to the parents of Palestinian kids that blew themselves up in Israel........are you saying a US soldier is dozens of times more valuable than a Palestinian kid?
 

einmensch

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Dear Colpy, $9,000 in Canada is not much so I increased the value to $100,000. Hitting $1,000,000 would perhaps show more sincerity. AS far as Israel is concerned a Palestinian child is a goat and so is worth a goat. Saddam compensated the Palestinians for the damage done to the families of the suicide bomber.
I believe Saddam paid $25,000.

What is the value of a Jewish Israeli child? (All the arabs are not worth one fingernail?)
 

karrie

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In my opinion, if a war is justified, then it's needed and justified, and human life is the cost of bringing about change. The instant some officer came to me offering money, I'd highly question what it is they had to apologize for. It's symptomatic of these forces not being there out of necessity. IMO.

I'm inclined to bump this because not one person commented on it. Did I hit the nail on the head, or did I miss by such a broad swing that engaging me would be lunacy? hmmmm.
 

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Dear Colpy, $9,000 in Canada is not much so I increased the value to $100,000. Hitting $1,000,000 would perhaps show more sincerity. AS far as Israel is concerned a Palestinian child is a goat and so is worth a goat. Saddam compensated the Palestinians for the damage done to the families of the suicide bomber.
I believe Saddam paid $25,000.

What is the value of a Jewish Israeli child? (All the arabs are not worth one fingernail?)
That was nice of Saddam. Again, he could have paid nothing. Is this now the reason why there are hardly any suicide bombers, because Saddam is gone?