Foreign oil!!

Serryah

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I hear you. Perhaps I should rephrase though. How would you get Saskatchewan or Alberta crude from the oilsands let’s say... to a refinery in Montreal owned by Suncor that is already set up and refining Bitumen Products from western Canada? I am up at this time at night because my dogs are out peeing & they elected me as the “Opener of the door!”
It’s already happening but maybe there’s a better way. It’s crazy to think that it cannot be shipped from Western Canada to Eastern Canada because it’s dirty or it’s too dangerous, but it will gladly be accepted arriving by pipeline as long as it doesn’t originate directly from Western Canada but through a cut out in the US coming back into Canada by pipeline?? That somehow makes it acceptable even if it’s only politically acceptable in this convolutedly divided nation?? That too pisses me off. I get it.


LOL - my dogs aren't yet at the age of needing potty in the night. They've learned to hold it due to my working 8 hours overnight. It'll likely change in a few years though with my olders becoming seniors next year 8O

I totally agree with you there, too. Personally I wish it was better/safer/economical to ship by rail. It'd create jobs that way, plus use a system already in place that needs the upgrades and despite pipeline being 'safer', I still don't like it personally. Trains, you know when there's a spill. A pipeline... I just don't trust it.

Keep it all in Canada and sell the leftover to the world is what should be done. Fuk Saudi.
 

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Ideally it'd be refined in Alberta or Saskatchewan, least that's what I would assume. It wouldn't have to be transported to say NB or ON or QC.
I don't get why it has to be.
But I gave up on trying to follow the oil crap a long time ago when everything on both sides pissed me off about it.

A new pipeline would have to be constructed to run in Canadian soil only, or a new agreement made to allow Canadian finished product to be transported, because of the agreement that no finished product is to cross the US Canadian border. As of right now the finished product pipeline ends at the US border, the pipeline is filled with crude at the border and is transported into the US.


Also the Ont. provincial trade agreement doesn't allow refined product from the West to protect Ont. workers, this includes Quebec.
 

B00Mer

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Considering it's a US-based attack, it seems odd you're so in favour of joining the US. As long as Canadian oil remains land-locked, the US is our primary and pretty much only customer, who's buying OUR oil at a deeply discounted price.

....and as a US state they wouldn't get a discount and they would be sending billions of dollars to get that shit out of the ground..

A boom for Alberta and jobs, housing, construction.. Oh and Calgary and Edmonton might get a Target that sticks around.. :lol:
 

B00Mer

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Make it illegal to use equalization money to buy foreign oil. That should change there arguments against our own oil...




Alberta...... the Quebec premier said he does not want any pipe lines. Alberta stop buying any thing made in Quebec. We dont need there dirty milk...
 

Cannuck

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Hehehehehehe.....
It's hilarious to see people that have no clue how public finances work, offer idiotic opinions
 

B00Mer

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Hehehehehehe.....
It's hilarious to see people that have no clue how public finances work, offer idiotic opinions

You do it all the time, try some self reflection...

 

taxslave

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Ideally it'd be refined in Alberta or Saskatchewan, least that's what I would assume. It wouldn't have to be transported to say NB or ON or QC.
I don't get why it has to be.
But I gave up on trying to follow the oil crap a long time ago when everything on both sides pissed me off about it.
It is simpler to ship large amounts of one product long distances in a pipe than multiple products in the same pipe. Don't forget there is much more to crude oil than just gas for your car. There are also a couple of dozen grades of lubricant as well as chemical feedstock.
 

petros

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Same way they're shipping it overseas. Turn it into a "solid" and transport it in a shipping container by rail. Except instead of a shipping terminus, it's delivered to our refineries. If Quebec don't want a pipeline, they can have trains instead. Or better yet, don't even supply the Quebec refineries. F*ck 'em.
Nobody is doing that.
 

petros

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It is simpler to ship large amounts of one product long distances in a pipe than multiple products in the same pipe. Don't forget there is much more to crude oil than just gas for your car. There are also a couple of dozen grades of lubricant as well as chemical feedstock.
"Batches" are common in pipelines. For some stupid reason people are oblivious to the types of oil in Canada. There are several grade of conventional oil produced in Canada that doesn't need upgrading. Western Canadian Select (upgraded bitumen)is not all we have. Where does this myth bitumen is shipped raw come from?
 
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