Oh, I made it easy for you.... My question was what people call "Hypothetical"... Its ok to answer those based on how the question was layed out.
Please, lets try this again.
Please, lets try this again.
Ford tries to clarify his comments on gun criminals and immigration
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All this confusion could have been avoided by enacting one prerequisite for being mayor of cities over 30 people- an I.Q. of 4 or greater!
Oh that won't go over well at all. It's bad enough that my mere presence upsets him. My pointing out his failings, only angers the hell out of him.
But when people point out I'm right, well, it's safe to say that just drives him nutty.
Thanks Fletch, lol.
Your hypocrisy aside. Correction, Cannibal Troll.
This has all been clearly explained to you in the past. Perhaps your issues aren't ideologically driven after all.
If I were to troll, it's usually benign, mutually appreciative stuff like this:
Rob Ford one-of-a-kind T-shirt price skyrocketing on eBay | Daily Buzz - Yahoo! News Canada
Because I'm a nice guy, not an expert in assholology.
That was a really convincing point!
LOL.
I'm sure your olives believe you, lol.
The failure to capitalize Assholology aside, I agree, even ideologues can be nice guys.
But you're still just an garden variety ideological troll.
To me, it's a no brainer that non-citizens who commit crimes be deported. Isn't that the law now? I could be wrong.
What boggles my mind is his idea that citizens, who have committed a crime and served their time, be kicked out of Toronto. He never said 'as a condition of parole' or anything like that, he wants anyone with a criminal record involving guns to be prohibited from living (or maybe even visiting) Toronto.
What boggles my mind is his idea that citizens, who have committed a crime and served their time, be kicked out of Toronto. He never said 'as a condition of parole' or anything like that, he wants anyone with a criminal record involving guns to be prohibited from living (or maybe even visiting) Toronto.
That's why he's exploring the idea. Parole restrictions are a way it can be done, legally.
Lots of people feel that way about several classifications of ex cons.
That's why we have sites that post the addresses of convicted sex offenders. People protesting at sex offenders homes, in hopes of driving them out of their community. So I would imagine he would find support in the community.
As mangled as his message was, I get the impression that he was trying to overstate something to avoid being pegged as a racist, yet again.
Mayor Rob Ford has facts wrong on anti-gang program, evaluator says
Mayor Rob Ford explained Thursday why he was the only member of council to vote against accepting federal money for an anti-gang program that will not cost the city anything — but one of his key assertions was strongly disputed by the expert who evaluated the program.
Council voted 33-1 in June to accept $350,000 from the federal government’s National Crime Prevention Centre. Until Thursday, Ford had not offered a justification for his stance.
The money will be used to extend a three-year pilot project called Prevention Intervention Toronto. The program was intended to help 300 young people “at high risk of gang attachment” in Rexdale, Jane-Finch and Weston-Mount Dennis transition into legitimate employment and to help the city to gain insight into which tactics work and which don’t.
Ford, a staunch fiscal conservative, said Thursday “there is only one taxpayer: provincial, federal, or municipal, it still comes out of your right pocket or your left pocket.” And repeating his opposition to what he calls “hug-a-thug programs,” he said Prevention Intervention Toronto had not resulted in even one person getting a job.
“You have to measure — in the private sector, we call it, it’s metrics. You know what, if you invest money, and you don’t see a result, you can’t measure how many jobs they got back. Last time I checked, they didn’t get any jobs back from all this investment,” Ford said on NewsTalk 1010.
“I’m saying I want to see results. They’re saying well, you know, we get all these kids jobs and all that. Well, out of that $300,000, I haven’t seen one job created,” he said.
The program, however, was evaluated in unusual detail by a University of Toronto team led by criminologist and gang expert Scot Wortley. Since the evaluation report has not yet been released by the city, Wortley said he cannot yet discuss his findings in detail — but that Ford is wrong about the program’s impact on jobs.
“I really don't know how he would draw such a conclusion. That is not what we found,” Wortley said in email Friday.
“The mayor's comments about youth employment and the PIT program do not provide an accurate depiction of the program evaluation results.”
A city summary of a draft of the evaluation found that the program had produced numerous benefits:
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Improving attitudes toward traditional modes of income generation and employment”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Reducing criminal offending among program participants, in particular violent offending”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Reducing pro-crime, pro-violence and pro-gang attitudes”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Significantly dropping the rate of gang membership after PIT participation”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Increasing youth confidence and self-esteem and participation in prosocial activities”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Improving school attendance and conduct at school”
Wortley said in June there is “room for improvement” in the program but that it had generated “a number of promising findings.”
Mayor Rob Ford has facts wrong on anti-gang program, evaluator says
Mayor Rob Ford explained Thursday why he was the only member of council to vote against accepting federal money for an anti-gang program that will not cost the city anything — but one of his key assertions was strongly disputed by the expert who evaluated the program.
Council voted 33-1 in June to accept $350,000 from the federal government’s National Crime Prevention Centre. Until Thursday, Ford had not offered a justification for his stance.
The money will be used to extend a three-year pilot project called Prevention Intervention Toronto. The program was intended to help 300 young people “at high risk of gang attachment” in Rexdale, Jane-Finch and Weston-Mount Dennis transition into legitimate employment and to help the city to gain insight into which tactics work and which don’t.
Ford, a staunch fiscal conservative, said Thursday “there is only one taxpayer: provincial, federal, or municipal, it still comes out of your right pocket or your left pocket.” And repeating his opposition to what he calls “hug-a-thug programs,” he said Prevention Intervention Toronto had not resulted in even one person getting a job.
“You have to measure — in the private sector, we call it, it’s metrics. You know what, if you invest money, and you don’t see a result, you can’t measure how many jobs they got back. Last time I checked, they didn’t get any jobs back from all this investment,” Ford said on NewsTalk 1010.
“I’m saying I want to see results. They’re saying well, you know, we get all these kids jobs and all that. Well, out of that $300,000, I haven’t seen one job created,” he said.
The program, however, was evaluated in unusual detail by a University of Toronto team led by criminologist and gang expert Scot Wortley. Since the evaluation report has not yet been released by the city, Wortley said he cannot yet discuss his findings in detail — but that Ford is wrong about the program’s impact on jobs.
“I really don't know how he would draw such a conclusion. That is not what we found,” Wortley said in email Friday.
“The mayor's comments about youth employment and the PIT program do not provide an accurate depiction of the program evaluation results.”
A city summary of a draft of the evaluation found that the program had produced numerous benefits:
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Improving attitudes toward traditional modes of income generation and employment”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Reducing criminal offending among program participants, in particular violent offending”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Reducing pro-crime, pro-violence and pro-gang attitudes”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Significantly dropping the rate of gang membership after PIT participation”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Increasing youth confidence and self-esteem and participation in prosocial activities”
[SIZE=+2]•[/SIZE] “Improving school attendance and conduct at school”
Wortley said in June there is “room for improvement” in the program but that it had generated “a number of promising findings.”
Mayor Rob Ford has facts wrong on anti-gang program, evaluator says
Phoenix might be better..............under the capable management of sheriff Joe Arpaio, who does not F**K around. :lol:
So if there is someone I hate, all I have to do is change my citizenship, murder them, and then get a free ticket to my new home?
Sign me up!
We could call it Rob's law and eventually apply it to other people he doesn't like until Toronto is as lilly white as Ford's Mack Truck sized ass.
*just waiting for Walter to downcheck this
After you post statistics supporting the lie that they are. A lie that was pushed hard before I contradicted it and that has no basis in fact and for which there have never ben statistics in support. It is a political claim by the kind of politician who should be behind bars for inciting hatred.
We don't need 'em up here. There's been some gunplay and cop involvement at French River (Hwy 607 Bailey bridge)
http://www.thesudburystar.com/2012/07/20/reports-of-shooting-incident-near-french-river
http://www.thesudburystar.com/2012/07/20/reports-of-shooting-incident-near-french-river
