food rationing in the USA

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British shopkeepers and the US retailer Wal-Mart have rationed rice sales to protect dwindling supplies.
The move by the world’s biggest retailer, which owns Asda, constitutes the first time that food rationing has been introduced in the US. While Americans suffered some rationing during the Second World War for items such as petrol, light bulbs and stockings, they have never had to limit consumption of a key food item.
In Britain rice is being rationed by shopkeepers in Asian neighbourhoods to prevent hoarding. Tilda, the biggest importer of basmati rice, said that its buyers — who sell to the curry and Chinese restaurant trade as well as to families — were restricting customers to two bags per person. “It is happening in the cash-and-carries,” said Jonathan Calland, a company executive. “I heard from our sales force that one lady went into a cash-and-carry and tried to buy eight 20kg bags.”
Wal-Mart said that Sam’s Club, its wholesale business, which sells food to restaurants and other retailers, had limited each customer to four bags of long-grain white rice per visit. In the past three months wholesalers have experienced a sharp rise in demand for food items such as wheat, rice and milk as businesses stocked up to protect themselves against rising prices.
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Global rice prices have more than doubled in the past year partly because countries such as China and India — whose economies are booming — are buying more food from abroad. At the same time, key rice producers banned exports of rice to ensure that their own people could continue to afford to buy the staple: India, China, Vietnam and Egypt have all blocked exports and so demand for rice from countries such as the United States has increased.
Costco Wholesale, the largest warehouse operator in America, said this week that demand for rice and flour had risen, with customers panicking about shortages and hoarded produce.
Tim Johnson, of the California Rice Commission, said: “This is unprecedented. Americans — particularly in states such as California — have on occasion walked into a supermarket after a natural disaster and seen that the shelves are less full than usual, but we have never experienced this.”
Food prices across the world have rocketed in the past two years, driven by increased demand for corn — the grain that is fermented to produce ethanol, the biofuel. With corn a main foodstock in dairy farming, milk has doubled in price in two years.
Growing awareness of global food shortages have exposed a deep divide in Europe over how best to guarantee supplies.
Germany joined France yesterday in demanding that the European Union maintain huge subsidies paid to farmers. The EU pays €42 billion (£34 billion) a year to farmers through the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP). Britain has called for its removal, claiming that it distorts the food market at vast expense to taxpayers. Berlin argued that the global food scare showed the need for subsidies to continue beyond 2013, when reforming nations, led by Britain, want to scrap payments that prop up unviable farms.
In a further assault on Britain’s policy of liberalisation, German ministers also backed French opposition to Peter Mandelson’s direction of world trade talks. The Trade Commissioner is offering cuts in EU farm subsidies to trigger concessions from other trading blocs, but Paris and Berlin believe that he has gone too far in chasing a global deal at a time of protectionist pressures.
Under a concession won in 2005 by Tony Blair in exchange for a cut in Britain’s EU rebate, an EU budget review will begin this year. Farm payments in the form of the CAP budget and the ¤10 billion rural development budget are up for debate.
Germany said that a rush to cut subsidies could leave the EU unable to feed itself. “We have to make sure that we can provide this continent with food sustainability and make sure that we produce enough to combat poverty in the developing world,” Horst Seehofer, the German Agriculture Minister, said.
President Sarkozy of France has pledged to reform the CAP but has yet to give details and is under immense pressure from farmers to continue their handouts. Mr Seehofer added: “In the future we will have food conflicts . . . and we have to make sure that the population here is fed at prices that are affordable. Food security is a demand of our population.”
British diplomats in Brussels dismissed the food security argument. “You cannot spend 45 per cent of the EU budget on 5 per cent of the population who produce 3 per cent of the EU’s output,” one said.
 

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It takes 9 gallons of fossil fuel to make 10 gallons of Ethenol.

400 pounds of corn to make 25 gallons of Ethenol.

47% of the American diet consists of corn. (What we eat, eats corn, meat, milk eggs ,etc)

It takes 10 calories of fossil fuels to put 1 calorie of food on the American table.
 

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Many parts of America, long considered the breadbasket of the world, are now confronting a once unthinkable phenomenon: food rationing.
Major retailers in New York, in areas of New England, and on the West Coast are limiting purchases of flour, rice, and cooking oil as demand outstrips supply. There are also anecdotal reports that some consumers are hoarding grain stocks.
At a Costco Warehouse in Mountain View, Calif., yesterday, shoppers grew frustrated and occasionally uttered expletives as they searched in vain for the large sacks of rice they usually buy.
"Where's the rice?" an engineer from Palo Alto, Calif., Yajun Liu, said. "You should be able to buy something like rice. This is ridiculous."
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quandry, I think you need to post more of your opinions and less of the endless posts I'm sure nobody is bothering to sift through.

Do as you wish of course, but personally, it turns me off reading all this stuff when I would much rather you post YOUR opinion.
 

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Run on rice makes its way to U.S.

Worried about rising prices worldwide, customers have been stocking up, prompting sales limits.By Jerry Hirsch and Tiffany Hsu, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
April 24, 2008
The global run on food that has led to shortages and riots in Egypt, Haiti and other nations has made its way to U.S. shores.

Concerned about rising prices and limited supplies of staples such as rice and flour, customers across the country have been cleaning out the shelves at big-box retailers, including Wal-Mart Stores Inc.'s Sam's Club and Costco Wholesale Corp. stores.

On Wednesday, Sam's Club said customers would no longer be allowed to purchase more than four bags of jasmine, basmati or long-grain white rice on each visit.

Sam's Club blamed the restriction on "supply and demand trends" and said it was working with suppliers "to ensure we are in stock."

The policy involves only bags weighing 20 pounds or more and does not affect smaller packages sold at the store or its sister Wal-Mart outlets.

This week, Costco said it had seen sales of flour, rice and some cooking oils leap. Some Costco stores already have held customers to just two bags of rice a day, but the chain doesn't plan to limit sales nationwide.

By midafternoon Wednesday, the Costco in Alhambra -- which had not placed limits on purchases -- said it had run out of rice.

Earlier in the day, Michael Yang, manager of Hawaiian barbecue restaurants in Pico Rivera and West Covina, had decided it was time to stock up. He bought 46 bags of medium-grain rice, 50 pounds each, at the Alhambra Costco and loaded them into his white van.

He paid $15.39 each, which he called a bargain compared with premium brands from Thailand that have recently nearly doubled in price to $40 for a 50-pound bag.

"The price of everything -- oil, sugar -- has been going up for months, and rice has been an issue for a few weeks already. Everyone else is doing the same thing I am because they use up their rice so fast," Yang said in Mandarin.

Prices for many foods, including beer, bread, coffee, pizza and rice, are rising rapidly as the nation contends with its worst bout of food inflation since 1990. The cost of groceries is climbing at an annual rate of about 5% this year.

Retail experts said there was little evidence of "panic" hoarding by the public. It appears that restaurants and smaller retailers have been buying up most of the stock on the expectation that prices will continue to rise.

Still, shoppers' actions have taken some stores by surprise.

"It is like a run on the bank. We don't think there is a shortage, it is just increased shopping by customers who think there is," said Richard Galanti, Costco's chief financial officer. For now, the retailer is allowing managers of stores with short supplies to set their own rules.

Other retailers report adequate supplies.

"Ralphs has plenty of rice. No shortages at any of our stores," said Terry O'Neil, spokesman for Ralphs Grocery Co.

When Heidi Diep visited the Costco in Alhambra last week seeking rice for her Chinese fast-food restaurant in Silver Lake, the store was out of stock. It had plenty of rice when Diep went back Wednesday, but, thanks to shoppers like Diep and Yang, ran out again.

"I picked up as much as I could," Diep said as she hauled a dozen 50-pound bags of Super Lucky Elephant rice and 10 bags of 25-pound long grain into her van and her sister's sedan.

The businesswoman said she was stockpiling the grain to avoid future price increases and a repeat of the week when it couldn't be found.

Internationally, shortages of basic commodities -- including rice, wheat and some oils -- have led to protests and riots in recent months, prompting concern about food security in many poor countries.
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quandry, I think you need to post more of your opinions and less of the endless posts I'm sure nobody is bothering to sift through.

Do as you wish of course, but personally, it turns me off reading all this stuff when I would much rather you post YOUR opinion.

Fair point i just like to back up what i say that's all ,i understand that my opinion is probably what is called for here, and realise that endless cutting and pasting is not what is important, it is just that would i be taken seriously, if i spoke on a subject without first making sure what I'm saying is the truth then i could understand your concerns. This said my views on this my be extreme and seen as conspiratorial, as i believe that the USA and British governments have decided for us that the planet has too many people on it and that because nuclear war is not practical or profitable there is an underlying proposal to lessen the world population to under 500 million, measures to make this happen have been under way for over 70 years or more and many contributing factors to enable this to take place are already being implicated, i believe that the USA government and the British governments know of or have had contact with what can only be explained as ALIENS. These Aliens will in the next few years will soon be shown as saving us from our own demise , also within 20 years the governments will tell us that they have been in contact with Aliens for many years, and that they are here to help this i think will fool most of the worlds population as things will soon get worse and worse for all, and then along will come these extraterrestrial beings, they will arrive with what will be perceived as the answer to all our energy needs, and other wondrous technologies , i can hear you all saying this guy should take off his tinfoil hat and are laughing at the utter implausibility of what Ive said, all conspiracy theories are just that until they are proved to be facts !!!!there are things recorded in past historical documents about alien contact before
(the [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Nephilim are one of these contacts that im talking about)[/FONT]
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, andthey bare children to them, the same became mighty men whichwere of old, men of renown.

Their descendents, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and being superhuman in size and in their wicked character, had to be destroyed. Was this the one and only object of the Flood?

Antediluvian Giants' bone below

 

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[SIZE=+2]Mesopotamia
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[SIZE=+1]Cities, Wheels, Writing, Religion, Helmets[/SIZE]
Cities
In 5000 B.C. Sumerians built villages. All the villages were near rivers. The farmers of Sumer settled on land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. Living by rivers had good and bad parts. The good part is they built canals so the crops could get their water. The bad part is it flooded and the villages were destroyed and so were the crops. The water tore apart the crops and rushed them this way and that way. Many lives were lost.


First Wheel

The Sumerians first invented the wheel. The wheel is a cylinder shaped object that rolls fairly easily. The first wheel was made from clay, rock and mud. I'm not sure sure if the first wheel was made on purpose or by mistake.



Writing, Religion, Helmet
Summarians invented writing. The first writing is called cuneiform. Cuneiform was written on clay. If they messed up, they could start over by rolling the clay up and starting again. The Summarians were first to believe in a religion. They believed in an afterlife. They sometimes buried the dead with tools, their horse, soldiers, and food on a golden platter. For food they would put a lamb or whatever was big enough. The golden helmet was made for wars. They had a helmet to protect their head. They melted the gold and formed it into the helmet.
 

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quandry, I think you need to post more of your opinions and less of the endless posts I'm sure nobody is bothering to sift through.

Do as you wish of course, but personally, it turns me off reading all this stuff when I would much rather you post YOUR opinion.

I agree, and how I wish our friend "the bull" were here to take on this delusional rice cake.

Uncle
 

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I agree, and how I wish our friend "the bull" were here to take on this delusional rice cake.

Uncle

look you obviously have taken offence at me for pointing out to you, that because you see no rationing in your local shops what im saying is crap, well its in the news now about the growing price of grain and such like ,maybe i was a head of you in this and that is why your soo peeved ,whether or not you believe my posts is irrelevant, things will only get worse as the oil shortages start to take effect and the snowball that that will create will be dramatic, i can assure you :lol:
 

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quandry, I think you need to post more of your opinions and less of the endless posts I'm sure nobody is bothering to sift through.

Do as you wish of course, but personally, it turns me off reading all this stuff when I would much rather you post YOUR opinion.

Some of us who can read more than a few sentences without passing out enjoy Mr Quandary121s contributions. Personally I'd rather you just forked off and let us get back to reading his posts without your incessant interuptions ITN.:lol:
 

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What's the coins story Quandary121?

darkbeaver it seems i owe you an apology as i miss read your posts as i thought you were telling me to forked off when in reality it was unclepercy please excuse my a front to you as i was stressed out yesterday at all my threads getting negative jibes the coin picture was a snapshot from video i don't know where it comes from but i looked up the words PLVRIBVS and they appear on your dollar coins and a French coin so could be a fake i don't know enough about coins.
 
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The food rationing matter did occur here in Gopherland. Luckily, it only lasted about 1 or 2 weeks and was restricted to rice, especially among Asian-American markets. I shop at Roundy's and they had plenty of rice in various varieties.

Let's hope it doesn't happen again as the thought of imposed rationing can be a bit scary.
 

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Hi, Gopher from Gopherland, how does your garden grow? Lots of good weeds to eat? Or what do gophers actually live on?

I can still remember the food rationing during the war. Those cards we had to present to the baker, for instance, for x-amount of grams of bread. He always had his scissors handy and cut the appropriate little squares off. So, should it happen here I would be able to adapt to it.... no big deal.
 

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Personally I'd rather you just forked off and let us get back to reading his posts without your incessant interruptions
Hi, Quandary...
I think you made a mistake here. Beaver didn't mean you to "fork off", but rather his friend, I think not. Beaver was actually interested in your brown coin or whatever it is. He once had something similar for his avatar, but he is like you... changes his avatars like his underwear!! :roll::lol:

Quandary, why do you have this gruesome picture at the end of your post? Do you want to scare people away? What is the meaning of it? If you like to end your post with a picture, then put a lovely loon portrait there!!;-);-):smile:
 
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Food crisis: Britain just nine meals from anarchy
The scenario goes like this. Imagine a sudden shutdown of oil supplies; a sudden collapse in the petrol that streams steadily through the pumps and so into the engines of the lorries which deliver our food around the country, stocking up the supermarket shelves as soon as any item runs out. If the trucks stopped moving, we'd start to worry and we'd head out to the shops, cking up our larders. By the end of Day One, if there was still no petrol, the shelves would be looking pretty thin. Imagine, then, Day Two: your fourth, fifth and sixth meal. We'd be in a panic. Day three: still no petrol.

Posted Jun 7, 2008 08:57 AM PST
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Note also, as posed in another article today, that Larry Matlack, President of the American Agricultural Movement, has stated that "...the U.S. has nothing else in our emergency food pantry. There is no cheese, no butter, no dry milk powder, no grains or anything else left in reserve. "
http://countervalue.com/food-crisis-britain-just-nine-meals-from-anarchy/
 

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Hi, Quandary...
I think you made a mistake here. Beaver didn't mean you to "fork off", but rather his friend, I think not.
Beaver was actually interested in your brown coin or whatever it is.
He once had something similar for his avatar, but he is like you... changes his avatars like his underwear!! :roll::lol:

Quandary, why do you have this gruesome picture at the end of your post? Do you want to scare people away? What is the meaning of it?
If you like to end your post with a picture, then put a lovely loon portrait there!!;-);-):smile:

your right Lis i made a big mistake there i amended my comment and sent beaver an apology too i was tired and getting lots of negativity's about my points on lots of threads and miss read it thanks for pointing it out once more .

as for the coin i think its a fake as a check on the writing PLVRIBVS is shown on
United States, /PB,1/4 dollar [expand]dynasty:USA--Federalobverse type:liberty stg., shield in r. hand, branch in l. handobverse legend:LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST, (date)reverse type:eagle flying r.reverse legend:UNITED STATES OF AMERICA; E PLVRIBVS UNUM, QUARTER DOLLAR
and on
France,Paris, / 1643 to 1715 / AE, [expand]
person:
Louis XIV
obverse type:
bust, r.
obverse legend:
.LVD.MAGNVS. FRAN.ET.NAV.REX.P.P.
reverse type:
The sun shining on a terrestrial globe
reverse legend:
.NEC.PLVRIBVS.IMPAR.|1674.
references:
Cat.Gen.1.187.G
[minimize]region:Francemint:parisseries:emblemstart date:1643end date:1715date on object:1674material:AEweight.:212.0 gramsmeasurements:82person:Louis XIVreferences:Cat.Gen.1.187.Gartist:Warin, J. (O)|Mauger, J. (R)obverse type:bust, r.obverse legend:.LVD.MAGNVS. FRAN.ET.NAV.REX.P.P.reverse type:The sun shining on a terrestrial globereverse legend:.NEC.PLVRIBVS.IMPAR.|1674.info:Restrike, BRONZE, cornucopiasubject - event:Emblem of the King

the picture
i have changed it i realised that it did look very horrible is the new one better ?:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Food crisis: Britain just nine meals from anarchy
The scenario goes like this. Imagine a sudden shutdown of oil supplies; a sudden collapse in the petrol that streams steadily through the pumps and so into the engines of the lorries which deliver our food around the country, stocking up the supermarket shelves as soon as any item runs out. If the trucks stopped moving, we'd start to worry and we'd head out to the shops, cking up our larders. By the end of Day One, if there was still no petrol, the shelves would be looking pretty thin. Imagine, then, Day Two: your fourth, fifth and sixth meal. We'd be in a panic. Day three: still no petrol.

Posted Jun 7, 2008 08:57 AM PST
Category:
CURRENT EVENTS


Note also, as posed in another article today, that Larry Matlack, President of the American Agricultural Movement, has stated that "...the U.S. has nothing else in our emergency food pantry. There is no cheese, no butter, no dry milk powder, no grains or anything else left in reserve. "
http://countervalue.com/food-crisis-britain-just-nine-meals-from-anarchy/

There is going to be more and more of this type of news and news stories going on around the world as people realise that OIL will run out then what ? oil made from food well that will just compound the problem as i stated earlier
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]It is well known that in order to produce one liter of alcohol for use in car engines, 1.2 liters of fuel oil must be sacrificed. In other words, more fuel than the fuel produced. In addition to the fact that ethanol has become good business for the Bush family, Bush's acolytes, and the oligarchies of several countries, isn't this a way to provoke a greater shortage of food?[/FONT]
 
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