Flag Burning

IdRatherBeSkiing

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They have an obligation to prevent assault, yes.

Would that be best served by locking up the stupid people before they do something stupid?

I personally feel people should be responsible for their own actions including negative reactions. Of course all acts which are illegal should be stopped once they start. But if you do dressed as KKK members to a all black rally, should you face the consequences of your actions or should you be protected by the police or prevented from going by the police?
 

Jonny_C

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A flag is just a piece of cloth. I'd rather see people burn a flag than burn a car.

Some yahoo burning a Canadian flag says something about the yahoo; it says nothing that impacts my respect for the flag and what it represents.
 

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Would that be best served by locking up the stupid people before they do something stupid?

I personally feel people should be responsible for their own actions including negative reactions. Of course all acts which are illegal should be stopped once they start. But if you do dressed as KKK members to a all black rally, should you face the consequences of your actions or should you be protected by the police or prevented from going by the police?

You should be protected by the police. Apart from the moral and legal argument, there is the power agrument. There is no way a government is going to relinquish its monopoly on force and tell its citizens that lynch mobs and posse's are in. That would destabilize the government.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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You should be protected by the police. Apart from the moral and legal argument, there is the power agrument. There is no way a government is going to relinquish its monopoly on force and tell its citizens that lynch mobs and posse's are in. That would destabilize the government.

II was not suggesting that lynch mobs or posse's are in. They would be dealt with if they occur. But we spend a lot of time and resources protecting people who are doing something they probably shouldn't be doing and whose obvious consequence is violence.
 

Machjo

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I'm not going to bother with a poll. I am really asking a simple question. Do you support the individuals right to burn a flag?

I have never burned a Canadian Flag, I have flown it upside down in protest though. I used to be adamantly opposed to the idea of burning our national emblem, but now I have a different perspective. Today, folks are doing back flips over the burning of symbols that represent something to them. Example, the Koran or the Bible. When in fact, these items, although bearing the burden of faith or patriotism are simply inanimate objects. If you burn the Holy Bible or the Koran that act should not shake the faith of the faithful. That's not to say it doesn't. I would say the same applies to flag burning. If you burn a Canadian flag in protest, I am not so insecure in my patriotism that I feel there should be a law to make the act illegal. In fact, we as Canadians should assert the right to use any form of non violent protest including flag burning, as a byproduct of living in a free and open society.

Sure to spark debate. What are your thoughts?

I would not burn a flag out of respect, unless I was lost in the forest and had to burn it to keep warm to survive.

That said, I also won't judge those who do choose to burn it.

There are more civil ways of expressing disagreement.

As for making it illegal, I don't see the point to making flag burning per se illegal. Law enforcement should focus on more serious crimes.
 

Nuggler

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I'm not going to bother with a poll. I am really asking a simple question. Do you support the individuals right to burn a flag?

I have never burned a Canadian Flag, I have flown it upside down in protest though. I used to be adamantly opposed to the idea of burning our national emblem, but now I have a different perspective. Today, folks are doing back flips over the burning of symbols that represent something to them. Example, the Koran or the Bible. When in fact, these items, although bearing the burden of faith or patriotism are simply inanimate objects. If you burn the Holy Bible or the Koran that act should not shake the faith of the faithful. That's not to say it doesn't. I would say the same applies to flag burning. If you burn a Canadian flag in protest, I am not so insecure in my patriotism that I feel there should be a law to make the act illegal. In fact, we as Canadians should assert the right to use any form of non violent protest including flag burning, as a byproduct of living in a free and open society.

Sure to spark debate. What are your thoughts?



Kind of a waste of a good flag.8O
 

Machjo

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If it's about respect, yes. If it's about nationalism, no.

But are we to legislate all forms of respect? What if a man who is daydreaming at the time enters a building cutting off a little girl in the process, should we have a law against that? what about the person who accidentally burps over the phone? Call the cops?

Why is it so different with regards to a flag.

Patriotism is healthy, but let's not confuse it with nationalistm. I'm a patriot. I love my country. But to be more precise, I'm a universal patriot, in that I define my country to be the earth, and my compatriots mankind.
 

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Hmmm. . . let's say I'm real upset that most if not all USA flags on the market are made in China. So I burn me one of them Chinese-made flags to protest the notion that the Chinese are profiting from making and selling American flags. Am I being patriotic or unpatriotic?
 

Nuggler

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Hmmm. . . let's say I'm real upset that most if not all USA flags on the market are made in China. So I burn me one of them Chinese-made flags to protest the notion that the Chinese are profiting from making and selling American flags. Am I being patriotic or unpatriotic?

Just an idiot as usual
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Hmmm. . . let's say I'm real upset that most if not all USA flags on the market are made in China. So I burn me one of them Chinese-made flags to protest the notion that the Chinese are profiting from making and selling American flags. Am I being patriotic or unpatriotic?

I am shocked you would waste a product so lovingly assembled by 7 year old children working 16 hour days. Show some respect.