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Meet the Muslims who sacrificed themselves to save Jews and fight Nazis in World War II

By Michael Wolfe September 8

Noor Inayat Khan led a very unusual life. She was born in 1914 to an Indian Sufi mystic of noble lineage and an American half-sister of Perry Baker, often credited with introducing yoga into America. As a child, she and her parents escaped the chaos of revolutionary Moscow in a carriage belonging to Tolstoy’s son. Raised in Paris in a mansion filled with her father’s students and devotees, Khan became a virtuoso of the harp and the veena, dressed in Western clothes, graduated from the Sorbonne and published a book of children’s tales — all before she was 25.

One year later, in May 1940, the Germans occupied Paris. Khan, her mother, and a younger brother and sister fled like millions of others, catching the last boat from Bordeaux to England, where she immediately joined the British war effort. In 1942, she was recruited by Churchill’s elite Special Operations Executive (SOE) to work in Paris as a wireless operator. Her clandestine efforts supported the French Underground as England prepared for the D-Day invasions. Among SOE agents, the wireless operator had the most dangerous job of all, because the occupation authorities were skilled at tracking their signals. The average survival time for a Resistance telegrapher in Paris was about six weeks.

Khan’s service continued from June 1943 until her capture and arrest by the Gestapo in October. Her amazing life and eventual murder in Germany’s Dachau prison camp in September 1944 are the focus of a PBS film I co-produced that is airing this week. In researching her story, I came across quite a number of other Muslims who bravely served the Allied cause — and sometimes made the ultimate sacrifice. History is rich with examples of their daring heroism and split-second decisions that helped defeat the Nazis.

Behic Erkin, the Turkish ambassador in Paris, provided citizenship papers and passports to thousands of Jews (many with only distant claims to Turkish connections) and arranged their evacuation by rail across Europe. One fateful day, Necdet Kent, the Turkish consul-general in Marseille, stymied the shipment of 80 Turkish Jews to Germany by forcing his way onto a train bearing them to their likely death and arranging for their return, unharmed, to France.

Abdol-Hossein Sardari used his position at the Iranian consulate in Paris to help thousands of Jews evade Nazi capture. Later dubbed the Iranian Schindler, he convinced the occupying Germans that Iranians were Aryans and that the Jews of Iran had been Iranian since the days of Cyrus the Great — and, therefore, should not be persecuted. Then he issued hundreds of Iranian passports to non-Iranian Jews and saved their lives.

Ahmed Somia, the Tunisian co-director of the French Muslim Hospital outside Paris, organized weapon caches, facilitated Resistance radio transmissions, treated wounded Resistance fighters, and helped save many downed U.S. and British pilots by hiding them in fake T.B. wards where Gestapo and French gendarmes feared to go.

Khan was posthumously decorated with the highest British and French civilian and military honors, but so were other Muslims, including standout heroes among the 2.5 million British Indian troops fighting Axis forces around the globe. In this largest volunteer army in recorded history, Muslims (roughly one-third of the force), like Hindus and Buddhists, played prominent roles. In a letter to President Roosevelt during the war, Churchill pointed out that Muslim soldiers were providing “the main army elements on which we [the British] must rely for the immediate fighting.” In 1944-45, the French Army of Africa, joined to de Gaulle’s Free French Forces, was expanded to 260,000 men, of whom 50 percent were North African, the great majority being Muslim, while another substantial group were Senegalese Muslim riflemen. These forces invaded Italy and helped liberate southern France. According to American historian Juan Cole, fighting these dark-skinned Africans in “Aryan” Europe, and losing to them, dismayed many German soldiers steeped in trumped-up theories of racial inferiority.

Eastern Europe offered more examples. In the Balkans, for instance, only 200 Jews lived in Albania before WWII. Yet by war’s end, almost 2,000 Jews lived in the country, because so many had fled Greece, Austria and other locations in Europe to take shelter there among the predominantly Muslim population, which hid and protected them.

As Cole wrote elsewhere, commemorating the 70th anniversary of D-Day: “While a few Muslims did support the Axis, out of resentment of Western colonialism and hopes that the rise of an alternative power center would aid their quest for independence, they were tiny in their numbers compared to the Muslims who not just supported the Allies… but actively fought on their behalf.”

One of the jobs of documentary film is to rescue stories that fall out of the history books. Khan’s account, and others like it, seems at odds with the history of the modern Middle East, whose combatants — whether Arab, Turkish, Iranian or Israeli — may want for their own reasons to bury stories about Muslim-Jewish collaboration. But these tales should be remembered and honored. It is my sincere hope that with the story of Noor Inayat Khan, we have done just that.


Meet the Muslims who sacrificed themselves to save Jews and fight Nazis in World War II - The Washington Post

Kill 'em all.
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If you look back through this thread you will find several posts in which I recognize the heroic acts of Muslim individuals.

Unfortunately, this is also WWII.....



The Waffen SS 13th Division stops to pray.......about 1942. (Bosnian Muslims)



Sami al-Jundi, wrote: "We were racists. We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books that were the source of the Nazi spirit. We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism. Michel Aflaq a founder of the Ba'athist philosophy admired Hitler and the Nazis for standing up to Britain and America. This admiration would combine aspects of Nazism into Ba'athism."

And it was reciprocal:

Hitler noted that one of the three reasons why Germany had warm sympathies for the Arabs was: … because we were jointly fighting the Jews. This led him to discuss Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany. Kalid al Hud observed that the Prophet Mohammed … had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia ….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#cite_note-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#cite_note-24
 
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Sooooo those hundreds of Trillions of $$$ in Eurasian resources have nothing to do with this?

If that's the case why haven't the Hindus made a go for the highly prized energy? They have the manpower and nukes along with a massive desire to out industry China.

If this is all about boogiemen that hate Zionists every thing is up for grabs for the Hindus.

Go Hindus Go!
 
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Perhaps that is where Iranian NG is going. If Korea will become a ship-building Nation they need the NG to manipulate steel. I thought India was more destined to be the design capital that includes being the new Hollywierd. Share the work so everybody gets a bit and that in itself id different from the last 1,000 years all by itself
 
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Steel is made with electricity these days.

Have you seen what Siemens (GE's rival in NG and green hype) built in Saudi Arabia?



That is a gas plant to dry offshore NG one of several massive beasts ready to feed gas pipelines and rail through Syria. Oman, Qatar UAE and Saudis have invested incredible amounts of money into supplying half the planet with gas. If they use it at home they could out industry damn near anyone.

ISIL their dream team are doing a great job of blocking Iran, Iraq and Syria from getting to the EU markets first.

Boogieman boogieman, boogieman.
 
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Well then Korea can use the NG to spin some generators then as ships comes ater the pipeline to increase the gas and the rail is to bring in the ore from Siberia highspeed cargo rail
Ships would be the best way to take Chinese good to Africa as that will become the new bread basket. The wildebeests can be save if places like Boston will accept deliver and arrange transport to the empty fields of the American West where they will not be run over by the combines that follow the rains in Africa so food is plentiful and a wide variety for the people to the east, all delivered by boat and manufactured goods on the return trip.
North America would have a mini version as trade would be N/S based and limited in bulk as the population serviced is much smaller.

Since France is reneging on that Russian ship does that mean Russia is going to build those and other non military ships to justify the production facilities or can ships and pipelines be made at the same facility? (in that ship parts can be manufactored in one location and assembled in another, like Crimea and the new deep water port. Do the hulls there and take them deep into Russia for outfitting and testing.
 
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petros said:
Steel is made with electricity these days.

Have you seen what Siemens (GE's rival in NG and green hype) built in Saudi Arabia?


That is a gas plant to dry offshore NG one of several massive beasts ready to feed gas pipelines and rail through Syria. Oman, Qatar UAE and Saudis have invested incredible amounts of money into supplying half the planet with gas. If they use it at home they could out industry damn near anyone.

ISIL their dream team are doing a great job of blocking Iran, Iraq and Syria from getting to the EU markets first.

Boogieman boogieman, boogieman.
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Same question applies, where does the electricity come from? In Iran it would be nuclear today. How much of the Saudi 'expansion' is just to upgrade what was put in place 40 years ago? That isn't saying production won't be up but who the customers are is no all that set in stone. Europe is one market that is a possibility but then who is going to feed Africa? Russia would sell their NG to places to the east. Any attempt to isolate Russia from all markets wouldn't be something that she would have to 'just let happen' and If NA is not part of the solution Europe isn't going to blackball somebody who is a major source of raw materials. (even with Saudi gas where is the raw product coming from?)

ISIS can be given Iraq to the Atlantic, that doesn't give them Iran or Syria and neither of them is going to hamper something that brings economic development to the area. ISIS will get their 40 year dictatorship like Bahrain and Syria will be like Syria before NATO invaded where the citizens get all sort of 'gifts' from the state rather than the money going to the shareholders of the international corporations that will be in charge. If they get double crossed all they would have to do is say they decided to implement the UN human rights documents and they could nationalize all foreign assets in the country.

Actually that would make a great triple cross and Israel controlled ISIS would have gotten OPEC as a possession and granting the oppressed people the newer rights would endear them to the public for the next 70 years at least. Longer if it ran smoothly, shorter if it turned out like a bigger version of the clusterfuk that is today's world. Who would object to that taking place?

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that's an insult to hammers.
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You nailed that one. Oops, apparently a hammer has at least one use, unlike, . . . . .
 
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Colpy said:
If you look back through this thread you will find several posts in which I recognize the heroic acts of Muslim individuals.

Unfortunately, this is also WWII.....



The Waffen SS 13th Division stops to pray.......about 1942. (Bosnian Muslims)



Sami al-Jundi, wrote: "We were racists. We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books that were the source of the Nazi spirit. We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism. Michel Aflaq a founder of the Ba'athist philosophy admired Hitler and the Nazis for standing up to Britain and America. This admiration would combine aspects of Nazism into Ba'athism."

And it was reciprocal:

Hitler noted that one of the three reasons why Germany had warm sympathies for the Arabs was: … because we were jointly fighting the Jews. This led him to discuss Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany. Kalid al Hud observed that the Prophet Mohammed … had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia ….http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#cite_note-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#cite_note-24
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We've heard your logic, Colpy. When Muslims do something bad, it's because all Muslims are EEEE-vil and must be slaughtered. When Christians do the exact same thing or worse, it's OK because Jeebus wubs them.

Oh, please, spare me your no-true-Scotsman fallacy.
 
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If you are REALLY interested in Islam and history, watch the video of Dr. Mark Durie in my previous post just below, and be prepared for a shock.

Then, while you are at it, read...

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/09/12/islamic-caliphate-europe-america/
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I know about Islam and history. Read books about it. So forgive me if I don't watch your cartoon.

And I'll be shocked when, sometime in the far future, they begin to approach one-tenth of the slaughter Christianity has wrought.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Just looked up your boy, Colpy. Let's see, Anglican priest, his doctorate is not in history, writes prolifically on how EEE-vil Muslims are.

In a word, propagandist.

Lap it up with a spoon, Colpy. Make sure your get your recommended daily allowance of hate.
 
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Christians like to create chaos. Muslims are a bit more structured than that in that if they have somebody they view as a leader then they will listen and then do it. If they get the 'how to run a death squad' book then things will be bad for the people and in 25 years they will have had enough and a revolt is underway. If they get the 'let me help you with that' book then 25 years in power is a drop in the bucket if they keep that same level of caring up. That isn't any more difficult than giving the the UN Human Right documents and saying those are the basic rules, follow them or 'we' will find somebody that will. That 'somebody' would be who is coming out of the local universities as they are the next generation to rule after the hardliners have 'resigned'. They aren't going to vote down the increase in rights that men, women and children have gotten under those adopted rules. Think of it as the Magna-Carta for 'the Consumers'.
 
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I know about Islam and history. Read books about it. So forgive me if I don't watch your cartoon.

And I'll be shocked when, sometime in the far future, they begin to approach one-tenth of the slaughter Christianity has wrought.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Just looked up your boy, Colpy. Let's see, Anglican priest, his doctorate is not in history, writes prolifically on how EEE-vil Muslims are.

In a word, propagandist.

Lap it up with a spoon, Colpy. Make sure your get your recommended daily allowance of hate.
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You know sweet **** all about Islam.

If you did, you would know the ONLY salient fact:

Mohammed the Pedophile (Pee Be Upon Him) butchered his way across the Arab Peninsula, robbing, raping, beheading, and engaging in genocidal mass murder.

Mohammed is the example for all true Muslims.

ISIS is the purest form of Islam.

As I have explained to other drooling apologist morons, people murdering in the name of Christianity are NOT following the example of Jesus Christ, and so are NOT Christian.

Those that murder and rape in the name of Islam, are indeed following the example of the Prophet.

Therein lies the difference between Islam, the Religion of Hatred, and Christianity, the Religion of Tolerance.
 
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Colpy said:
You know sweet **** all about Islam.
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Epistemology, dear boy. How do you know what I know or don't know about Islam?

Answer: nothing, because you have no way of knowing that.

So, you're just running off at the mouth, based on complete ignorance.

Looks good on you.

If you did, you would know the ONLY salient fact:

Mohammed the Pedophile (Pee Be Upon Him) butchered his way across the Arab Peninsula, robbing, raping, beheading, and engaging in genocidal mass murder.

Mohammed is the example for all true Muslims.

ISIS is the purest form of Islam.

As I have explained to other drooling apologist morons, people murdering in the name of Christianity are NOT following the example of Jesus Christ, and so are NOT Christian.
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No true Scotsman fallacy. I have demonstrated that you do not follow the commands or the example of Christ, and are therefore NOT Christian, by your own definition.

So why do you claim to be a Christian?

Mohammed is the example for all true Muslims.
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According to what authority?
 
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Marrying someone was the same as adoption. Did Moe blink the 13 year old? Even in the 20th century 13 was marrying age in Canada. In fact a 13 year old can still marry in Canada today. Are we Muzzie extremists? Peodophile? Unf-cking likely.

Colpy is a wannabe Jew. Zero Christian in the guy so may as well go get cut.
 
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