Fed up with Islam Yet???

[Tecumsehsbones]

As do I. But I have a gradation of morals. The most accountable are the depraved men who abused these children for their own fun and profit. Those are sins of commission. Then the indolent, self-serving, cowardly politicians, bureaucrats and police and their sins of omission.

Also a complete violation of their oaths. Don't forget that little piece.

Islam and its subjugation of women and its implicit contempt of secular law are contributing factors. Even now "progresssive" Muslims are saying that Muslim youth in Britiain must hear from other Muslims that this is wrong. Really? It's not good enough that rape of children is one of the most abhorrent crimes in our Western societies is not good enough? They have to hear it from Muslims? Even the response of the progressive Muslim community indicates part of the problem. In the eyes of the state, it doesn't matter what Allah thinks of it. It matters what the law says.

Oh, horse sh*t. How many times do we hear it? "The black community needs to teach their young men to be more respectful." "The Indians need to stop drinking." EVERY minority is encouraged to "police its own." For the very good reason that "their own" have more influence on the a$$holes and potential a$$holes.

In my mind the idea of deserving victims was prevalent among the authorities. "Just white trash being white trash. There's no point in doing anything about it because it'll just go on anyway." And it will. They still should have done something about it though.

Probably true.

 

[Zipperfish]

Um. . . that's pretty much what they did. And the bishops formed a gang to move them around, protect them from the authorities, and find them new hunting grounds.

I know it is difficult, but it happened. It happened in the parishes, it happened in the Catholic schools, it happened in the Indian schools, it happened in the Magdalene Laundries, it happened in the Mother and Child Homes, it happened in the Industrial Schools, it happened in the seminaries, it happened in the monasteries.

It's out, Colpy. No amount of denial will make it go away.

As to these guys? They need to be jailed, just like all the other "white slavers." Many of them were white and professed Christianity, did you know that, Colpy? It happens with Mexican and Indian girls in the Southwest. And the people doing it are often white Christians.

In this case, as in those cases, the ones who really need to be punished are the authorities. But they won't be.

The really disgusting thing about this, Colpy, is if the perpetrators had been white and professed Christianity, you wouldn't be nearly as agitated. You just want to bash Muslims. You don't give a damn about the girls.

It happens everywhere all the time. That's why children need to be protected. Because when given the opportunity, evil men will abuse them. Adn those men are everywhere--much more common than we'd like to admit. It's no conincidence that having a 15 year sex slave is an outrageous crime, but also probably one of the most searched terms on google.

The line between good and evil does not pass between states or religions. It passes through every human heart. to paraphrase Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It happens everywhere all the time. That's why children need to be protected. Because when given the opportunity, evil men will abuse them. Adn those men are everywhere--much more common than we'd like to admit. It's no conincidence that having a 15 year sex slave is an outrageous crime, but also probably one of the most searched terms on google.

The line between good and evil does not pass between states or religions. It passes through every human heart. to paraphrase Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

Preach, brother! I'm totally with you. Punish the perps, punish the authorities who fail to act.

Leave race, religion, and socioeconomic status out of it. Leastways, do that if you want to make a credible claim to believing in equality.

 

[Colpy]

Um. . . that's pretty much what they did. And the bishops formed a gang to move them around, protect them from the authorities, and find them new hunting grounds.

I know it is difficult, but it happened. It happened in the parishes, it happened in the Catholic schools, it happened in the Indian schools, it happened in the Magdalene Laundries, it happened in the Mother and Child Homes, it happened in the Industrial Schools, it happened in the seminaries, it happened in the monasteries.

It's out, Colpy. No amount of denial will make it go away.

As to these guys? They need to be jailed, just like all the other "white slavers." Many of them were white and professed Christianity, did you know that, Colpy? It happens with Mexican and Indian girls in the Southwest. And the people doing it are often white Christians.

In this case, as in those cases, the ones who really need to be punished are the authorities. But they won't be.

The really disgusting thing about this, Colpy, is if the perpetrators had been white and professed Christianity, you wouldn't be nearly as agitated. You just want to bash Muslims. You don't give a damn about the girls.

Bull****.

Individual priests did terrible things to kids, and were shuffled around instead of being defrocked, exposed, and turned over to legal authorities. Terrible as that is, it was not a campaign that destroyed the lives of 1400 kids IN A SINGLE CITY (this is not the only city.......it has happened before) BTW there was hardly a plot by the Bishops to increase their ability to abuse kids, but instead an incredibly misguided attempt to protect the Church.

BTW, as I am from Baptist roots, I am HARDLY in the habit of defending the Catholic Church.....but this smear, this equivalence BS leaves me aghast.

It is in NO WAY on the same scale either in the horrifying nature of the crimes committed, nor in the vast number of crimes committed.

You do know what gang rape and forced prostitution is, do you not???

It happens everywhere all the time. That's why children need to be protected. Because when given the opportunity, evil men will abuse them. Adn those men are everywhere--much more common than we'd like to admit. It's no conincidence that having a 15 year sex slave is an outrageous crime, but also probably one of the most searched terms on google.

The line between good and evil does not pass between states or religions. It passes through every human heart. to paraphrase Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

Absolutely.

 

[Zipperfish]

Preach, brother! I'm totally with you. Punish the perps, punish the authorities who fail to act.

Leave race, religion, and socioeconomic status out of it. Leastways, do that if you want to make a credible claim to believing in equality.

I don't think we do agree. You are trying to draw a moral equivalency between the perpetrators of these acts and those who did nothing about it. I don't agree with that at all.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't think we do agree. You are trying to draw a moral equivalency between the perpetrators of these acts and those who did nothing about it. I don't agree with that at all.

Not at all. Separate crimes. Multiple counts of kidnapping, rape, and child abuse to the gang.

Multiple counts of dereliction of duty, reckless endangerment, and criminal negligence to the authorities.

BTW, as I am from Baptist roots, I am HARDLY in the habit of defending the Catholic Church.....but this smear, this equivalence BS leaves me aghast.

You're right. How could a conspiracy to rape children possibly be compared with a conspiracy to rape children?

And I don't know about Canada, but down hereabouts plenty of the schools were run by Protestants. Including Baptists, when they weren't busy lynching black people.

 

[Zipperfish]

Not at all. Separate crimes. Multiple counts of kidnapping, rape, and child abuse to the gang.

Multiple counts of dereliction of duty, reckless endangerment, and criminal negligence to the authorities.

Agreed.

And likely a culture in both groups that these girls were "deserving victims" (primariliy religious based for the perpetartors, primarily class-based for the authorities). IMHO anyway,

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Agreed.

And likely a culture in both groups that these girls were "deserving victims" (primariliy religious based for the perpetartors, primarily class-based for the authorities). IMHO anyway,

Agreed again. The reason I focussed on the authorities is that nobody doubts the perpetrators deserve, and will get, long stretches in prison (personally I favour the death penalty in cases like this, but that's beside the point). What I'm focussing on is the shocking behaviour of the authorities, particularly in light of the fact that they'll most likely suffer nothing worse than resigning or being fired (or voted out). Such a complete and cowardly dereliction of duty on the part of public officials should be a crime.

And by the way, I simply do not believe there were not at least some of the authorities on the take in this situation.

 

[BaalsTears]

Pakistani patriarchal culture is like a pack of wolves tearing apart and devouring the victims that can be run down. But that's what beasts do.

British elites are traitors to low income British families for knowingly countenancing the imposition of Pakistani patriarchal culture on low income Britons.

Where were the fathers of the British girls used by the beasts of Pakistan? Didn't they care about what was happening to the natural objects of their affection? I guess the British family isn't what it once was.

Thank God for the Second Amendment to the US Constitution. Justice delayed is justice denied.

 

[Colpy]

Not at all. Separate crimes. Multiple counts of kidnapping, rape, and child abuse to the gang.

Multiple counts of dereliction of duty, reckless endangerment, and criminal negligence to the authorities.


You're right. How could a conspiracy to rape children possibly be compared with a conspiracy to rape children?

And I don't know about Canada, but down hereabouts plenty of the schools were run by Protestants. Including Baptists, when they weren't busy lynching black people.

Go **** yourself.

I'm not in the mood to be polite to trolls.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Go **** yourself.

I'm not in the mood to be polite to trolls.

Well, when you're exposed for the callous bigot you are, a certain amount of ire is to be expected.

Colpy, rent the original Walking Tall. Take a good look at the drug dealers and pimps down there in sh*tkicker country that Buford Pusser put down (it's a true story). They're the same race and the same religion as you.

Fact is, you don't care that 1400 girls were horribly abused. You only care that 1400 girls were horribly abused by Muslims. And that, my dear, is what makes you a callous bigot. Quoting D*ck Cheney won't change that.

And I still believe you're better than that, or I wouldn't spend as much time on you as I do.

 

[Colpy]

...and a decent response. Better than the girls got from the authorities.

‘Ludicrous': Pakistani community in Rotherham livid warning signs of sexual assault on 1,400 girls ignored | National Post

This crap has my BP through the roof!! Get a load of the local MP.........


The former MP, who resigned as MP in 2012 over the expenses scandal, said ‘misplaced racial sensitivity’ prevented him from 'burrowing into' the widespread sexual abuse allegations and oppression of women in the Muslim community.

He made the comments after a damning child protection report found 1,400 children were sexually exploited in the town by gangs - most of them of Pakistani origin - between 1997 and 2013.
A group of 'influential' Pakistani councillors were accused in the report by a council officer of blocking attempts to tackle the abuse and also meddling in domestic abuse cases involving Asian women in the town.
Mr McShane said: 'I think probably [I didn’t do as much as I could]. I think that I should have burrowed into it.

'Perhaps yes, as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn’t want to raise that too hard.'
He also told the BBC: 'I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multi-cultural community boat if I may put it like that.'

Children as young as 11 doused in petrol and told they would be raped next | Mail Online

....and the problem with ISLAM:

'There is in our country, just a dreadful culture and I wouldn’t pick particular on one ethnic community but it is a real problem, it’s a longer story about the nature of that community, their sexual relations, and the way they treat women in particular within that community, there’s a big problem.'
In the report, one council official also told author Professor Alexis Jay social workers felt pressure from Pakistani officials to reveal the whereabouts of women fleeing domestic violence.

They were also told to encourage women to go back to their attackers rather than support the victims' own choice of action, they said.
Ukip's Yorkshire and Humber MEP Jane Collins said: 'This part of the report is just shocking.
'To cover up something of this scale, they cannot have been acting out of shame; it is evil.
'It seems specific councillors have put up barriers to stop the problem becoming public and stop the problem being dealt with - blocking both white women and Pakistani-heritage women from getting help.'

 

[Zipperfish]

And I still believe you're better than that, or I wouldn't spend as much time on you as I do.

I've got a soft spot for the cantankerous old bugger myself.

 

[Colpy]

Well, when you're exposed for the callous bigot you are, a certain amount of ire is to be expected.

Colpy, rent the original Walking Tall. Take a good look at the drug dealers and pimps down there in sh*tkicker country that Buford Pusser put down (it's a true story). They're the same race and the same religion as you.

Fact is, you don't care that 1400 girls were horribly abused. You only care that 1400 girls were horribly abused by Muslims. And that, my dear, is what makes you a callous bigot. Quoting D*ck Cheney won't change that.

And I still believe you're better than that, or I wouldn't spend as much time on you as I do.

You are wrong about that. I do not care who is gang raping little girls, I want them dragged out onto the front street and shot once behind the ear.

But, I was a bit riled before, and I apologize for dumping all over you in my fit.

Yeah, I know about some of the Southern Baptists. Some are racist monsters, but they are not Christians, no matter how they label themselves.

BTW, what was Martin Luther King?????

Oh, and Islam has no problem with rape of infidels.

 

[Colpy]

Muslim Gang Rapists are Springing Up Everywhere. Why Can't We Be Honest About It?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You are wrong about that. I do not care who is gang raping little girls, I want them dragged out onto the front street and shot once behind the ear.

But, I was a bit riled before, and I apologize for dumping all over you in my fit.

Yeah, I know about some of the Southern Baptists. Some are racist monsters, but they are not Christians, no matter how they label themselves.

BTW, what was Martin Luther King?????

Oh, and Islam has no problem with rape of infidels.

I appreciate the fact that we can hammer each other, then cool down and re-engage.

And Christianity has no problem with slavery. That foul lie has been spread by Christian and non-Christian alike.

Simple fact is Islam covers the entire spectrum from peaceful, intelligent, spiritual, enlightened thinkers to street thugs and deadly psychopaths. Just like Christianity. And just like Christianity, the worst of Islam (and Islam's enemies) use out-of-context passages from the Qu'ran to justify their sh*t. Just as the worst of Christianity use out-of-context passages from the Bible to justify their sh*t.

The fact that Martin Luther King and Edgar Ray Killen were Baptist ministers should demonstrate that. You wanna claim King, you gotta claim Killen.

Judge folk by what they do, not who they are. That's what King was all about. Too bad Killen wasn't.

 

[Locutus]

MINNESOTASTAN: Hamas’ American affiliate CAIR says “jump.” Obama and Holder say, “how high?”

The federal government on Wednesday sued the small north-metro city of St. Anthony, contending that its City Council violated federal law in 2012 by rejecting a proposed Islamic center.

The lawsuit sprang from a controversy that echoes those that have flared in many U.S. cities when Muslims have sought to establish worship centers.

“An injustice has been done,” U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger said at a news conference in Minneapolis. “I will not stand by while any religious group is subject to unconstitutional treatment that violates federal civil rights laws.”

The lawsuit alleges that the council’s decision to deny the Abu Huraira Islamic Center the right to establish a worship center in the basement of the St. Anthony Business Center violates the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed by Congress in 2000.

It marks the first time federal prosecutors have sued a Minnesota city citing the law, although the Justice Department has filed similar suits elsewhere in the country on behalf of Islamic centers, according to a U.S. attorney’s office spokesman.


alahfukbar


http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/08/27/minnesotastan-hamas-american-affiliate-cair-says-jump-obama-and-holder-say-how-high - Linkis.com


Feds sue city of St. Anthony over rejection of Islamic center | Star Tribune

 

[Locutus]

O.J. Simpson plans to convert to Islam



be nice if that fat fukk murderer just died and went away.

 

[DaSleeper]

O.J. Simpson plans to convert to Islam



be nice if that fat fukk murderer just died and went away.

He did prove he was good with a knife......

 

[Locutus]

CNN host stunned when radical Muslim cleric makes 9/11 JOKE during soundcheck
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/31/cnn-host-stunned-when-radical-muslim-cleric-makes-911-joke-during-soundcheck/ … #tcot

and more dumb fukkery

Choudary calls #hannity *rude.* Know what I think is rude? Chopping off people's heads....