'EXTINCTION CRISIS': Nature in worst shape in human history, UN report says

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They're going like gangbusters, right now. The last time an event like this happened was 65 million years ago ... they come, they go.
Really?

The Quaternary period (from 2.588 ± 0.005 million years ago to the present) saw the extinctions of numerous predominantly megafaunal species, which resulted in a collapse in faunal density and diversity and the extinction of key ecological strata across the globe. The most prominent event in the Late Pleistocene is differentiated from previous Quaternary pulse extinctions by the widespread absence of ecological succession to replace these extinct species, and the regime shift of previously established faunal relationships and habitats as a consequence.

The earliest casualties were incurred at 130,000 BCE (the start of the Late Pleistocene). However, the great majority of extinctions in Afro-Eurasia and the Americas occurred during the transition from the Pleistocene to the Holocene epoch (13,000 BCE to 8,000 BCE). This extinction wave did not stop at the end of the Pleistocene, continuing, especially on isolated islands, in human-caused extinctions, although there is debate as to whether these should be considered separate events or part of the same event.[1]
 

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The Quaternary period (from 2.588 ± 0.005 million years ago to the present) saw the extinctions of numerous predominantly megafaunal species, which resulted in a collapse in faunal density and diversity and the extinction of key ecological strata across the globe. The most prominent event in the Late Pleistocene is differentiated from previous Quaternary pulse extinctions by the widespread absence of ecological succession to replace these extinct species, and the regime shift of previously established faunal relationships and habitats as a consequence.
The earliest casualties were incurred at 130,000 BCE (the start of the Late Pleistocene). However, the great majority of extinctions in Afro-Eurasia and the Americas occurred during the transition from the Pleistocene to the Holocene epoch (13,000 BCE to 8,000 BCE). This extinction wave did not stop at the end of the Pleistocene, continuing, especially on isolated islands, in human-caused extinctions, although there is debate as to whether these should be considered separate events or part of the same event.[1]
Hominids survived that (Quaternary) one. Maybe, that was the big environmental crisis that selected the smartest of our ancestors.
 

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The real crisis and doomsday scenario is the coming abrupt and rapid end of our current interglacial period.

When they end its without warning.

The last time it only took 20 years to return to a world of ice and snow and there isn't a damn thing man can do to try to stop it.
 

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The real crisis and doomsday scenario is the coming abrupt and rapid end of our current interglacial period.
When they end its without warning.
The last time it only took 20 years to return to a world of ice and snow and there isn't a damn thing man can do to try to stop it.
It can thaw out a lot more than this, yet.
 

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The real crisis and doomsday scenario is the coming abrupt and rapid end of our current interglacial period.
When they end its without warning.
The last time it only took 20 years to return to a world of ice and snow and there isn't a damn thing man can do to try to stop it.
It's interesting. I read about a model of how sudden global warming could lead to a fresh ice advance, about eight years ago (Scientific American?).

It goes thus. As the Earth heats up, the Mediterranean basin becomes much hotter and drier (happening now,), This causes the salinity of the Mediterranean Sea to rise as less fresh water flows on from surrounding lands and the increased heat accelerates evaporation in that "dead end" sea that has a small drain at one end. The outflow from the Strait if Gibraltar is far more dense than the Atlantic Ocean with the all those extra ions in solution and the bulging body of higher density water pushes the Gulf Stream current westwardly ... slowly, steadily. That accelerates the melting of Greenland and the Canadian Arctic Archipeligo which reduces the amount of sunlight that is reflected back into space and thus speeds up the (12,000 year long) heating cycle. As the Gulf Stream marches Westward (Did the Cod just about totally vanish because the Grand Banks are suddenly too warm for them and they moved on?) Britain and the Scandinavian Penninsulae get gradually colder and wetter as they are washed by less of it's influence. The cooling continues, there, until the winter snows don't qrite melt, one Xpring and there ... in Northwestern Europe, is where the next ice advance begins.

It's certainly a long shot but there is some logic to it, as well.
 

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30 Sobering Images Of Humanity's Impact On The Environment

There’s no hiding the fact that humans are having a large effect on our planet. However, even in the face of massive mounting evidence, it has become clear that most people are largely indifferent to the changes taking place around them.
They say that a picture is worth a thousand words, and in this slideshow, we’ve gathered 30 of the most shocking images that show what humanity is really doing to planet Earth. Many of these were gathered from The Foundation For Deep Ecology’s recent book Overdevelopment, Overpopulation, Overshoot. Has humanity reached peak indifference? Or is there still more ground to be lost (both literally and figuratively)?














More: https://shareably.net/30-sobering-images-human-indifference
 

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I agree Cliffy the garbage needs to be picked up, picture 2 is a dump with methane burners installed isn't it? Picture 3 which country is that from? If it was waste land what's the big deal? No worries about forest fires in picture 4 though
 

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Nearly 7 pounds of plastic bags found in dead doe's stomach

A dead doe in the Japanese city of Nara was apparently found in late March with just over 7 pounds of plastic bags in its stomach, the Asahi Shimbun reports.
Members of the Nara Deer Preservation Foundation, a nonprofit organization that takes care of deer in Nara Park, tried to save the doe on March 23 after a passerby contacted the group about a "deer near Todaiji temple" that couldn't stand.
Though the doe was initially able to feed and drink some water under the foundation's care, it died the next morning. The female was estimated to be 17 years old and weighed about 66 pounds.
An autopsy performed on March 27 revealed 7.05 pounds of entangled plastic bags in the first chamber of the doe's stomach, according to the Japanese newspaper. Deer have four chambers in their stomach — the first one stores food that the animals digest later.



More: https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...stic-bags-found-in-dead-does-stomach/23736873
 

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Good thing a a war is brewing. We can easily get the population down to 1 Billion.


Of course you are a thinking man. The reduction of useless eaters will be enhanced by the global crop failures. The planet dosn,t give a fukk, considering we,re only a skin problem that can easily be treated with Solar Radiation modulation. Everything will be fine with just a few years of radiation treatm,ent, the bees have been through light intervention thearapys many times in the past. Relax there,s fuk all you can do to save a planet that isn,t in danger and wishes you would have stayed in the trees, Cliffy.

 

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Nearly 7 pounds of plastic bags found in dead doe's stomach

A dead doe in the Japanese city of Nara was apparently found in late March with just over 7 pounds of plastic bags in its stomach, the Asahi Shimbun reports.
Members of the Nara Deer Preservation Foundation, a nonprofit organization that takes care of deer in Nara Park, tried to save the doe on March 23 after a passerby contacted the group about a "deer near Todaiji temple" that couldn't stand.
Though the doe was initially able to feed and drink some water under the foundation's care, it died the next morning. The female was estimated to be 17 years old and weighed about 66 pounds.
An autopsy performed on March 27 revealed 7.05 pounds of entangled plastic bags in the first chamber of the doe's stomach, according to the Japanese newspaper. Deer have four chambers in their stomach — the first one stores food that the animals digest later.



More: https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...stic-bags-found-in-dead-does-stomach/23736873


Read up about mental problems in wildlife. It was eating plastic because it was demented by age.
 
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I see lots of deer every day and lots of plastic bags the two don,t get together ever where I live. It,s not remarkable to count twenty or so deer in the field behind this house every spring day, none of them eat the plastic. However I will donate to the wildlife mental health fund should it be realized. The counciling will be hilarious.
 

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While it is difficult to know the exact nature and timing of the challenges that lie ahead, it is clear that the longer the issues of energy use and environmental destruction are not dealt with the worse those challenges will be. Humanity is not dealing with the issues, and remains wedded to its destructive, ecocidal behaviour. An extremely dangerous government, dominated by a wealthy, white, male elite, controls the United States, and, in the face of all the evidence, is aggressively pushing back environmental regulation and seeking ever more global wealth and power. This pattern is in evidence elsewhere, suggesting the rise of authoritarian, dictator states that are likely to pursue their own interests in the event of ecosystem and economic collapse. Even if humanity were to change its behaviour, come together, declare a climate emergency and implement an International Green New Deal, the lag time built into natural systems means that serious global temperature rise and environmental collapse remain inevitable. The crucial question is, how soft or hard the landing will be on the other side. A soft landing requires not only an entirely transformed human being but also radically new systems of government, society and economics. Adversarial leaders, aggressive cultures, materialistic ontologies and partisan governments have taken humanity into inequality, war, exploitation and now catastrophic environmental breakdown. If there is to be a positive next chapter in human history, and it is a big if, then a completely different social order is needed, especially of leadership, springing from a completely different ontological paradigm, if humanity is not to repeat the same mistakes. A leadership is required that is at once bipartisan, cooperative, communicative, consultative and able to address the needs of each individual, that is, function from the “bottom-up” while simultaneously being capable of directing the necessary solutions to humanity’s common problems. These problems are on an enormous scale and humanity is unprepared to meet them. I have already mentioned the need to relocate tens of millions of climate refugees, to decommission radioactive facilities, to switch to carbon-neutral, zero-emission economies and sustainable agricultural practices, to revision and build green global industries, to end global inequality, to prepare for pandemics and psychological trauma. If these and other measures are not carried out swiftly with present and remaining capabilities, they will be beyond the ability of post-collapse peoples. It is likely that only coalition or unity governments operating on an emergency basis will be able to perform these tasks and provide all other essential services. The distribution of food, water and medical supplies, provision of shelter, fuel and power, the maintenance of order and so on, will need to be carried out by coalition governments employing soundly negotiated bilateral and international principles to avoid panic, chaos and people taking law into their own hands. Failing the advent and rapid development of effective citizen assemblies and coalition governments, it is likely that only military forces will be able to take command of essential activities from the coastguard, to emergency services, policing, engineering, travel and the systems of supply, law and order. In the event of sudden catastrophes such as monsoon failure or coastal city inundation, military organisation will be essential to enable the movement to and provision for the tens of millions of people in evacuee camps. Wartime organisation will also be needed for the construction of new roads, bridges, levees, railways tracks and homes in the aftermath of any such breakdown as well as in any major agricultural works that will be required. There will obviously be immense hardships and trauma, but well thought out preparation for and execution of emergency plans in the event of a soft landing will help ameliorate some of the minor catastrophes, avoid despotism, and even stimulate and begin to put into place the basis for a sustainable future society. In the event of a major collapse most likely caused by the obtaining of one of a number of tipping points in the climate system such as forest dieback, the irreversible melting of ice sheets, or accelerating methane gas release leading to a global heating increase of over 4°C, then a hard landing will become inevitable. Thousands of millions of people will be displaced and the mobilisation of emergency forces, whether under the command of a totalitarian or democratic state, would ameliorate only the worst-case scenarios. Less concerned with individual survival but that of Life on Earth, military forces would have to deal with engineering projects such as the securing of all radioactive materials (deep ocean sediment disposal?) if there was to be any chance of avoiding permanent toxic contamination of the environment. Geo-engineering projects would also be considered. Should this be beyond the ability of even the most well organised national or international corps, and currently there is every sign this will be the case, then humanity will be faced by the end of its world with radioactive pollution compounding agricultural failure, with poisoned ground and ocean waters and temperatures too high to support life. If humanity immediately began to prepare for the obviously more desirable soft landing then it might be able to avoid the hard landing. But it is not doing this and would have to transform itself completely if it were to achieve this goal. Humanity knows what it must do, the knowledge is there, the sustainable technology does exist, but it lacks the vision, consciousness and will to implement it. Humanity needs a wholly new human being, particularly in leadership roles, with a universal vision, unattached to any investment or position, seeking no power, wealth or status for itself, committed to the common cause, and guided by a strong connection to higher consciousness, compassion and morality, free even of attachment to the body, if there is to be any human presence on earth after the collapse of its current civilisation.
 

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We are all going to die from climate change?

Another record smashing cold, wet winter will no doubt kill many.
 

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