Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia
Toro, where have you been? We've been a police state for over a year now. :roll:
Toro said:
Toro, where have you been? We've been a police state for over a year now. :roll:
Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
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Aeon
Your experts don't even mention that the WTC aircraft were fully loaded from takeoff when they hit the towers.
The jetfuel ignited and reduced the steel to dust.
The article also cites the New York Times as being an investigative leader.
They are still having trouble finding their way to the truth on many things. But give them time. Meanwhile they have a good New York Life Theater page.
Your experts don't even mention that the WTC aircraft were fully loaded from takeoff when they hit the towers.
The jetfuel ignited and reduced the steel to dust.
The article also cites the New York Times as being an investigative leader.
They are still having trouble finding their way to the truth on many things. But give them time. Meanwhile they have a good New York Life Theater page.
Wednesday's Child said:ITN
Ya.... that's right!
I know my melting measurements! Tinfoil, steel girders, aircraft plating aluminum...conduit covers.....chocolate....ice cream... you name it!
Apparently so does Toro ahem..... His wife is very forgiving!!!
:lol:
Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia
Well come to live in canada for a while, and you will see the difference,not incredibly big, but there is , i am not saying in the states it is really bad, but it got worst since september 11, and i ve never seen in canada, a police officer breaking the doors, just to see those who are drinking alcoohol are in the legal age to drink, it happend to a friend of mine in new jersey.
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Well come to live in canada for a while, and you will see the difference,not incredibly big, but there is , i am not saying in the states it is really bad, but it got worst since september 11, and i ve never seen in canada, a police officer breaking the doors, just to see those who are drinking alcoohol are in the legal age to drink, it happend to a friend of mine in new jersey.
Yup, that´s it. Part of what makes it very unlikely is:Wednesday's Child said:
1) Who would benfit on the events, and results of, 9/11?
2) In what way? Why?
3) How big risks would they be willing to take to succeed?
Lets for a moment pretend 9/11 is just a big white house haox in order to increase the defence force budget; is it in any way possible to plan and go through with a hoax of that size? How many people would have been needed? How do you get them to shut up? Who were willing to sacrifice their life for George Bush and a increased defence budget (the were highjackers, right?)
I´m sorry, we probably will never know everything about what happened that day - but this is just to much...
Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia
Well, yes. But the interesting part is (for example) when fashion magazine asks ms Hilton about next years fashion. Is she, with little or no education in the area, "an expert" of fashion and clothing - or is it the fact that she is famous, and thereby influences and maybee even sets example, of next years fashion - that makes her "an expert"?
Well, without the proper education there are only one option - right? So, what we got is "media" coming to ms Hilton for "advice", just because of the fame media blessed ms Hilton with in the first place..?
"Demimond" comes from french and means something like "half world".
Toro said:thulin said:
For example
Well, yes. But the interesting part is (for example) when fashion magazine asks ms Hilton about next years fashion. Is she, with little or no education in the area, "an expert" of fashion and clothing - or is it the fact that she is famous, and thereby influences and maybee even sets example, of next years fashion - that makes her "an expert"?
Well, without the proper education there are only one option - right? So, what we got is "media" coming to ms Hilton for "advice", just because of the fame media blessed ms Hilton with in the first place..?
"Demimond" comes from french and means something like "half world".
Thulin
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. There were plenty of ways to bring the U.S. to its knees....still are. The 9/11 plan was a genius plan, but I think binLadin thought Bush would turn tail as did Clinton during his eight years.
It had been tried early in Clinton's reign as well (1993) and the WTC garage bombings weren't successful, but Clinton didn't retaliate in any measure other than through the press and legal system and cough cough the U.N. UBLadin sat smiling and waiting for the next strike. binLadin himself is an excellent example of Islamic Fundamentalist rage. It is not pretty.
If Bush made any errors, I honestly believe he should have gone directly to Afghanistan and removed the cancer before he spun around while still in the area and took out Hussein. He lost UBL by going after Iraq first.
ITN
You are way baaaaaaaad!
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense. There were plenty of ways to bring the U.S. to its knees....still are. The 9/11 plan was a genius plan, but I think binLadin thought Bush would turn tail as did Clinton during his eight years.
It had been tried early in Clinton's reign as well (1993) and the WTC garage bombings weren't successful, but Clinton didn't retaliate in any measure other than through the press and legal system and cough cough the U.N. UBLadin sat smiling and waiting for the next strike. binLadin himself is an excellent example of Islamic Fundamentalist rage. It is not pretty.
If Bush made any errors, I honestly believe he should have gone directly to Afghanistan and removed the cancer before he spun around while still in the area and took out Hussein. He lost UBL by going after Iraq first.
ITN
You are way baaaaaaaad!
At the beginning, it was a known fact that three years before 9/11, the Project for a New American Century had speculated how a treacherous attack “like Pearl Harbour” could greatly accelerate the dismantling of America’s traditional rights and values, thus bringing their plans to fruition for a new America, to which the Bush Administration has since been busy leading the country.thulin said:
When, less than a year following Bush and his PNAC puppet-masters having achieved the White House, just such an attack “like Pearl Harbour” took place, it appeared to be much too fortuitous to be true. And yet, few could give credence to the suspicion that any group of American leaders could be so perfidious as to destroy American lives and property with the aim of producing an incident that would permit them to activate their desired changes in policy.
Over the five plus years since then, the treachery and deceitfulness of the Bush Administration and its Neocon supporters, who developed out of the original PNAC plot, have gradually convinced an increasing number of observers to reappraise their original rejection of their suspicions aroused by that alarming coincidence.
Personally, I have still not managed to convince myself to fully embrace that particular theory, bult alternately, I have not been able to casually dismiss it.
There is no need to post such vehement rejections. If they are tinfoil hats, they are already doomed to failure. If they prove their suspicions correct, it would of a great discovery for everyone, except the spawn of PNAC.
Meanwhile, they are no more objectionable than the JFK Theorists, Luna Landing Objectors, and the Flat-Earthers.
At least those nutters aren’t trying to legislate their unproven beliefs in the school curriculum.
Wednesday's Child said:ITN
Ya.... that's right!
I know my melting measurements! Tinfoil, steel girders, aircraft plating aluminum...conduit covers.....chocolate....ice cream... you name it!
Apparently so does Toro ahem..... His wife is very forgiving!!!
I don't know your melting measurements WC. :wink:
Toro
Caught me..... I was making the phrase...I know "my" alphabet...
"my" multiplication..... not "my" melting point.... but the melting..
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tease.
Then you had Paris Hilton up there...that's why I think your wife is a neat woman for putting up with your bad self.
Caught me..... I was making the phrase...I know "my" alphabet...
"my" multiplication..... not "my" melting point.... but the melting..
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tease.
Then you had Paris Hilton up there...that's why I think your wife is a neat woman for putting up with your bad self.
thulin said:
Thulin...you are correct!
I apologize - not thinking - but I believe Bush let go of Afghanistan too soon. He declared the Taliban disbursed and defeated but did not stay the course to capture binLaden.
He focused upon Iraq and Hussein and the majority of the ground troups were based there and who knows when they will ever be pulled out because I don't see Iraq becoming a united democratic nation any time soon. They have their own personal tribal wars and certainly aren't going to stop these because the U.S. pull out and they have an "elected" government. Perhaps they should split the country into states who have autonomous ruling power and who come together for major issues of the whole nation.
Bush had been in office eight months when 9/11 happened..he had a decimated military thanks to a peace loving Clinton...and his country had been attacked. I am not certain he was given the best advice, but the terrorist had been ongoing through the Clinton years - and prior. 9/11 was yet one more event since the Munich Olympic massacre in the early 70s.
If anything good has come out of this is to put a stop to the Oil for Food program.
My personal opinion? Bush Senior should not have pulled out in Gulf War One - but should have relieved the people of Iraq then.
He had the coalition, the people, the nation behind it... all he did was delay the misery for another twelve years while the U.N. did their delay tactics....I know many military advisors were disappointed he had been limited in his 100 day joke. Like some movie production. I'll bet we never saw the republican national guard during that war - but only the poor guys with no uniforms but pajamas, starved to death in their outposts, supposedly taking over Kuwait.
UBL is but one of the many miseries of this group of terrorists who aren't after only the U.S. and Israel - they are after all democracies and even being agnostic will not have any importance to them.
Of course anyone can poke holes in what I have written, as I am not a military historian. I do know I changed on 9/11. I surprise myself at the depth of my hatred.
Strangely, what is overlooked in the whole terrorist discussion is who and what created the terrorists?
Re: RE: Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax
Do you know that imperialists are paid to engage in internet disscussions?
the caracal kid said:
Do you know that imperialists are paid to engage in internet disscussions?
Wednesday's Child said:
Yes she is a neat woman. I'm a lucky man.
Paris Hilton is a media creation. She is famous for being famous.