Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

[Said1]

Au contrare. P

Au contraire :wink:

ITN! Where's that "Talk to the hand smilie"???

 

[darkbeaver]

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Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

That quote isnt very far from reality,is it??

The tactic is very old and very powerful, a perenial favorite of agressive superpowers.

 

[I think not]

Au contrare. P

Au contraire :wink:

ITN! Where's that "Talk to the hand smilie"???

 

[aeon]

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Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

That quote isnt very far from reality,is it??

The tactic is very old and very powerful, a perenial favorite of agressive superpowers.

Totally agree and it is scary, since there is a real superpower these days.

 

[jimmoyer]

Had the Nazi Party not enjoined such rhetoric without
the Brown shirt thugs and bullies carrying out threat
and fear, such rhetoric would not rule the public.

Lesson lost here.

We simply cannot even look at history very
accurately but we are all very adroit at taking any
piece of history out of its context, picking a part out
of the sum of its parts.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

Had the Nazi Party not enjoined such rhetoric without
the Brown shirt thugs and bullies carrying out threat
and fear, such rhetoric would not rule the public.

Lesson lost here.

We simply cannot even look at history very
accurately but we are all very adroit at taking any
piece of history out of its context, picking a part out
of the sum of its parts.

I agree with what you say, but the fact that hitler blew up his own reich, put the blame on communist terrorist, and install martial law,sounds familiar with 9-11 , the terrorist and the patriot act.

 

[jimmoyer]

Aeon, the lesson of Hitler's Germany is only ever
understood in piecemeal and wrongly at that.

You still hold on to separating the rhetoric
of Hitler from the SS and the Brown Shirts.

You've grown used to reading this false understanding
of that history, because what you said is an echo
heard everywhere, and we live in an echo chamber,
a media echo chamber, a bubble that is very durable.

And as far as 9/11 being a hoax, well just add that
to the hoax of the Apollo Moon program.

Frankly believers in hoaxes are about the most
gullible people you will ever meet.

They think they are free thinkers, thinking their cynicism
for truth, but yet their gullibility for believing major
events like that one was a hoax beautifully executed
is astounding.

Do you believe the powers to be are that competent
to pull it off ?

I believe in the infinity of INCOMPETENCY.

I don't believe in competence, a very rare and
finite attribute of mankind.

 

[aeon]

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Aeon, the lesson of Hitler's Germany is only ever
understood in piecemeal and wrongly at that.

We must not forget the pattern of nazi germany to not make the same mistake over and over, ok i probably exagerate but the facts are there, hitler used fear to get his people down, same for this bush administration, you just cant refute it.Nazi are the nazi, and republican are the republican, but they are similarity.

You still hold on to separating the rhetoric
of Hitler from the SS and the Brown Shirts.

You've grown used to reading this false understanding
of that history, because what you said is an echo
heard everywhere, and we live in an echo chamber,
a media echo chamber, a bubble that is very durable.

Opinion that is all there is.

And as far as 9/11 being a hoax, well just add that
to the hoax of the Apollo Moon program.

What are you talking about?? what about apollo moon program?? did this haox killed innoncent peoples?? no , so i really don t care if it is true or not.

Frankly believers in hoaxes are about the most
gullible people you will ever meet.

They think they are free thinkers, thinking their cynicism
for truth, but yet their gullibility for believing major
events like that one was a hoax beautifully executed
is astounding.

Well , this is exactly what i think about those who frankly believe in us officials story.Thinking alquada was able to do an event that big, able to find washington from 10000 feet in the air and crashed into the pentagone by doing a 180 degree turn,i guess allah was there to help them right?? Alquada arent organised to do an event that big, that is a fact.


quote: ""The great mass of people will more easily fall victim
to a big lie than to a small one.” Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (1925)


quote: ""The great mass of people will more easily fall victim
to a big lie than to a small one.” Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (1925)

Do you believe the powers to be are that competent
to pull it off ?

I believe in the infinity of INCOMPETENCY.

I don't believe in competence, a very rare and
finite attribute of mankind.

Exactly , that is why guys like me found easily anomalie in the 9-11 official story. They are so incompetent, that they cant have their lie straight.

 

[I think not]

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We must not forget the pattern of nazi germany to not make the same mistake over and over, ok i probably exagerate but the facts are there, hitler used fear to get his people down, same for this bush administration, you just cant refute it.Nazi are the nazi, and republican are the republican, but they are similarity.

We don't walk around in fear aeon, we go about our daily lives without looking over our shoulders. I think the media moreso brainwashes some of you on the outside than on the inside.

Well , this is exactly what i think about those who frankly believe in us officials story.Thinking alquada was able to do an event that big, able to find washington from 10000 feet in the air and crashed into the pentagone by doing a 180 degree turn,i guess allah was there to help them right?? Alquada arent organised to do an event that big, that is a fact.

You are only using conspiracy theories to further your beliefs, the plane didn't swoop down from 10,000 feet and make a 180 degree turn.

Exactly , that is why guys like me found easily anomalie in the 9-11 official story. They are so incompetent, that they cant have their lie straight.

A good conspiracy is unprovable. I mean, if you can prove it, it means they screwed up somewhere along the line. - Some smart guy said it

 

[TenPenny]

Claiming that it would be hard to fly a jet with the intention of crashing it? It's not that hard. Flying a jet is fairly simple, if you're not concerned with a takeoff or landing.

 

[darkbeaver]

It is disingenuous to think that fear is not the primary tool of the U.S. administration, no reason no fact and no benevolent intensions. Whatever the details
of the 9/11 incident fear has been the result, fear was the intended
result. ALL sides feed off that fear to advance thier cause whatever that may be.Fear of terrorism is being used to strip away democracy
in the United States, the rich have decided that democracy costs them to much.

 

[I think not]

It is disingenuous to think that fear is not the primary tool of the U.S. administration, no reason no fact and no benevolent intensions. Whatever the details
of the 9/11 incident fear has been the result, fear was the intended
result. ALL sides feed off that fear to advance thier cause whatever that may be.Fear of terrorism is being used to strip away democracy
in the United States, the rich have decided that democracy costs them to much.

Guess what darkbeaver, we agree on something. I have no doubt GWB is using the fear card to do what he wants to do, but don't think it works across the board, don't look at one side, there are always two sides to a story.

 

[the caracal kid]

RE: Experts Claim Officia

ITN,

there are three sides to a story.

 

[darkbeaver]

It is disingenuous to think that fear is not the primary tool of the U.S. administration, no reason no fact and no benevolent intensions. Whatever the details
of the 9/11 incident fear has been the result, fear was the intended
result. ALL sides feed off that fear to advance thier cause whatever that may be.Fear of terrorism is being used to strip away democracy
in the United States, the rich have decided that democracy costs them to much.

Guess what darkbeaver, we agree on something. I have no doubt GWB is using the fear card to do what he wants to do, but don't think it works across the board, don't look at one side, there are always two sides to a story.

I am trying to consider the fear on the other sides of the
issue,for the sake of argument I propose the us side (The West)
and all the other sides (The Rest). Which sides have experianced the highest levels of fear over the longest periods of time? I suggest that the cartoon rebellion is the product of fear and not the product of religious intolerance.

 

[aeon]

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We don't walk around in fear aeon, we go about our daily lives without looking over our shoulders. I think the media moreso brainwashes some of you on the outside than on the inside

How many times bush administration has used color alert before the second term?? Even once after a very good speech of jhon kerry, the day after was the highest alert, to make people remember who is in charge.

You are only using conspiracy theories to further your beliefs, the plane didn't swoop down from 10,000 feet and make a 180 degree turn.

Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??

it is impossible withouth ground help

A good conspiracy is unprovable. I mean, if you can prove it, it means they screwed up somewhere along the line. - Some smart guy said it

They screwed it up big time, they lost control, that is why so many facts are emerging these days.

 

[I think not]

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How many times bush administration has used color alert before the second term?? Even once after a very good speech of jhon kerry, the day after was the highest alert, to make people remember who is in charge.

Many times. How many times have people even paid attention to it? Could you even guess? I live in New York City, we are constantly on alert, you think it makes a difference to us what Homeland Security decides to say each morning? Do you think we don't go to work? Don't go out on the town at night? Don't ride the bus, train and walk around our parks and national treasures because some dickhead in the government raises the terror alert level? Why don't you tell me how we all live in FEAR.

Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??

I have no idea, I'm not a pilot, are you?

They screwed it up big time, they lost control, that is why so many facts are emerging these days.

They aren't facts, they are opinions and bad ones at that.

 

[aeon]

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How many times bush administration has used color alert before the second term?? Even once after a very good speech of jhon kerry, the day after was the highest alert, to make people remember who is in charge.

Many times. How many times have people even paid attention to it? Could you even guess? I live in New York City, we are constantly on alert, you think it makes a difference to us what Homeland Security decides to say each morning? Do you think we don't go to work? Don't go out on the town at night? Don't ride the bus, train and walk around our parks and national treasures because some dickhead in the government raises the terror alert level? Why don't you tell me how we all live in FEAR.

Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??

I have no idea, I'm not a pilot, are you?

They screwed it up big time, they lost control, that is why so many facts are emerging these days.

They aren't facts, they are opinions and bad ones at that.

Facts, and here is a good one.


1.26.06- Researchers and investigators have uncovered links between a Miami bank that collapsed in 2002 amid a fraud scandal that was highlighted by billions of dollars in questionable cash and fraudulent loans and money movements linked to the Bush family and businesses linked to funding pilot training for the 9-11 hijackers.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11322



i based my opinion based on all facts available, and those facts are ugly.

 

[jimmoyer]

Osama is one of 59 brothers of various mothers in
the extended bin Laden family that's the size
of a decent subdivision development.

Their family's holdings are vast, and so you could
say they are like that game of relating every Hollywood
actor to Kevin Bacon by 6 degrees.

Their connections have touched someone of the elite
or someone near the elite for years.

You'd be surprised.

The Bush family is one of many famous people who
have dotted lines drawn to the bin Ladens, who also
have homes in Connecticut where Bush Sr cut his teeth
with his own dad who was a Senator.

Just like homeless people know other homeless people
you have this same thing with the rich who know other
rich and these nefarious associations are seen
in the au natural everywhere you look.

All that article proves is what most of us know anyway.

That the Saudi hijackers were financed by Saudis !!

omigod !!

What a revelation !!!

You boast an opinion based on facts ???

You still have to prove your case.

But trial by inference and association and innuendo
is typical of the public.

I'll need more than these pointed fingers
to prove that the Bush family ordered this assault.

These arguments smack me as weak as the Intelligent
Design crowd pointing to gaps in the scientific
theory of evolution.

I think Little Bush is quite wrong on many things,
but just because I disagree with some of his policies
is the worst reason to JUMP to RUSH to smug
conclusions that this man ordered the assault
on the Pentagon and the Twin Towers and the White House.

You can replace the truth with cynicism all you want
and smile at your own wisdom.

I hope when you don't like somebody you believe
anything bad about him simply because he pisses you off.

This crap is getting holier than thou.

My apologies in advance for writing in this way.

 

[thulin]

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Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??

Lets rephrase again, someone did find it - right? Someone who could maneuver and navigate a Boing 747 - right? That someone died in the crash, suicide. What does that tell you? Is secret service known for any prior kamikazemissions?

 

[jimmoyer]

How could somebody find Washington flying a plane?

Holy bejeeezus ???

Is that possible in this day and age ??

Wow !!

How do jets and planes turn back to their origin ?