Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

[I think not]

Key member of those organisation are probably involved, not all of them, it would make no sense, the one who debunked 9-11 at popular mechanics was put there by the cia, i don t remember his name though.

Are you saying the firefighters and police at ground zero are involved?

Newspaper and media in the us are controlled by your governement, usa are ranked 135th for the freedom of press, regarding what is going on outside of your country, when iraq under saddam was ranked 124th, no wonder why 70% of american thought saddam was behind 9-11.

You must be thinking of socialist states buddy, nobody controls the media in the US, get real, you're losing credibility, actually you just lost it.

Did your media/history/discovery channel told you the truth before going in iraq?? nope, so why would they tell you the truth on 9-11??

No, did yours?

 

[MMMike]

Aeon,

If the official theory of how the towers collapsed does not make sense to you, explain why it is generally accepted amongst structural engineers who would understand best how buildings behave?

How can you ascribe almost superhuman intellect to the Bush administration in their planning and execution of this massive 'fraud' as you call it? Big government has its secrets, but is way to inept and incompetent to pull of a job of this size.

 

[aeon]

Are you saying the firefighters and police at ground zero are involved?

Not at all, there must be key member again, but firefighters and police from ground zero, were not allowed to testified in front of the comission, normal , cause what they say doesnt support the us officials story.


NY fire department

firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem.


police report

page 61.


Do you want more??

You must be thinking of socialist states buddy, nobody controls the media in the US, get real, you're losing credibility, actually you just lost it.

Then explain to me, when it was disclassified, that presscott bush financially supported hitler during ww2, no us media talked about it??

No, did yours?

Certainly more, they talked about crazy sanctions, how many people suffered from those sanctions, how many people died from those sanctions, they showed iraq was constantly at war since 1991, in other word they showed a desperate people which were iraqies, when in fact us media, were showing the advantage of going to war, cnn had segment of their web site called "" showdown in iraq"" u know the media, governement were all in unison to brainswashed the people to support the invasion of iraq,, eeven new york time failed to inform the american.[/url]

 

[aeon]

Aeon,

If the official theory of how the towers collapsed does not make sense to you, explain why it is generally accepted amongst structural engineers who would understand best how buildings behave?

How can you ascribe almost superhuman intellect to the Bush administration in their planning and execution of this massive 'fraud' as you call it? Big government has its secrets, but is way to inept and incompetent to pull of a job of this size.

And you are telling me alquada was able to do it?? when all of their attack follow the same pattern, which doesnt require big preparations, except on 9-11, get real.

 

[I think not]

We can throw buckets of evidence and common sense in your direction aeon and you will still believe what you want to believe.

 

[aeon]

We can throw buckets of evidence and common sense in your direction aeon and you will still believe what you want to believe.

Well go for it, i firstly believe in us official story for couple months, then george w bush admitted in miami and california that he saw the first plane hit the world trade center on tv, before going in the classrom in florida on 9-11,according to the timeline of the day , that is impossible, nobody in the world have seen the first plane live on tv, unless he had a special camera just for the president.......the footage of the first plane, came later on during the day.

When i say this administration are stupid, this is a good exemple, they are so arrogant and stupid, they can t even have their lie straight.

 

[JoeyB]

RE: Experts Claim Officia

I am seriously wondering what is in the water overe there.

Are the public so easily misled?

as someone who actually was up, watching the whole thing live, it was painfully obvious to me at the time (especially after seeing this post then going back to my videotapes and watching them) and moreso now, that there are so many disjointed inaccurate reports happening at that particular moment... BUT... incredibly, the views to the WTC were covered excellently from every angle, as if to say 'award-winning-coverage'.
Now... on another note, without disclosing too much, someone I know who worked with Christians In Action back in the 60s told me this was a setup. I asked why, and the person said its a trademark they cant get rid of.
now I like to form my own opinion, and I'm not willing to disclose any more, other than to say explosives, not metal fatigue and aeroplanes. I should also like to point out the nature of the collapse of more than just the 2 towers, the structural engineering and architects knowledge of the possibility of stresses far greater than a plane crash affecting the building, and then there's also the previous bombing of the WTC to be mentioned, which by the way was far more explosive than the plane crash, and more likely to succeed in destabilizing the building, to the point of collapse.

People should never take anything the media say, or cover, without a grain of salt, especially that which eminates from the White House,- furthermore, educated people are smart enough to scrutinize and form their own understanding, without having to express an opinion. If someone has factual independent evidence to support their opinion, and not evidence supplied by media or government media saturation, then said evidence weighs far greater in the public opionion, and cannot be discredited, try as one might.

It's all there in black and white, but as time goes on, you will notice more information and internet pages describing independent accounts of eyewitnesses, emergency services personnel etc have disappeared.

We all know the current administration have got previous convictions in this style of 'creative politics', you only have to look at each individuals CV to see how they fit in.

Blah.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

I Christians In Action back in the 60s told me this was a setup. I asked why, and the person said its a trademark they cant get rid of.

What trade mark?

 

[JoeyB]

RE: Experts Claim Officia

simultaneous creation of diversionary disasters to cause distraction.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

simultaneous creation of diversionary disasters to cause distraction.

Oh. Like Pearl Harbor and the more recent Tsunamis.

 

[JoeyB]

RE: Experts Claim Officia

Pearl harbour and tsunami? are we on the same track here? I don't know how the hell you can equate a natural disaster or an attack in wartime with an alleged terrorist attack, they are not relative in modus operandi at all. see definitions: War, Terrorism, and Natural Disasters. unless you can mysteriously tie in all three for me under 'conspiracy theory'

by the way, do some research on HAARP, while you're at it Nicholai Tesla was a smart man.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

and then there's also the previous bombing of the WTC to be mentioned, which by the way was far more explosive than the plane crash, and more likely to succeed in destabilizing the building, to the point of collapse.

20,000 gallons of fuel detonated at once, amounts to the
equivalent of 2,376,000 sticks of dynamite, not including the impact force.

WTC 1993 bombing equates to 18,374 sticks of dynamite

Time to change your water supply.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Experts Claim Officia

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Pearl harbour and tsunami? are we on the same track here? I don't know how the hell you can equate a natural disaster or an attack in wartime with an alleged terrorist attack, they are not relative in modus operandi at all. see definitions: War, Terrorism, and Natural Disasters. unless you can mysteriously tie in all three for me under 'conspiracy theory'

by the way, do some research on HAARP, while you're at it Nicholai Tesla was a smart man.

Why must you be so elusive, you're talking conspiracy - not moi. Give an example then if this isn't the case. Those that I had mentioned all fit into one conspiracy theory or another. What simultaneous creation of diversionary disasters to cause distraction? Like specifically. If thou doesn't mind, it's not in the dictionary, I checked.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

But what if they are being attacked, who would you quote then?

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

We were attacked. Or do you believe in Wag the Dog?

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

But what if they are being attacked, who would you quote then?

That's when you quote Ann Coulter.

 

[Conservative Aaron]

The measurements of the plane do not fit the crash site of the pentagon..and nothing is marked on the grass which lead people to believe a missile hit it, not a plane. This is all I have ever heard.

Same with the Flight 93 into the field, no plane was ever found, just stuff that could fit in your hand. Makes ya think.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING

But what if they are being attacked, who would you quote then?

That's when you quote Ann Coulter.

`How about the great wordsmith Chretien "I can't know everything about everything all the time - hoiste, du tabournak!"

 

[Toro]

Key member of those organisation are probably involved, not all of them, it would make no sense.

It sure doesn't.

Newspaper and media in the us are controlled by your governement, usa are ranked 135th for the freedom of press, regarding what is going on outside of your country, when iraq under saddam was ranked 124th, no wonder why 70% of american thought saddam was behind 9-11.

70% did not think that. It was more like 25%.

You want to back up those press freedom rankings.

Of course, the media is not controlled by the government.