excepting Barak Obama, who is the worst US President in HIstory?

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Yeah, but I think he got the other three right, so maybe it's time Jarge had another close looking at! -:)

GW is just hated by the left because that is what they do. The next Republican President will be hated just as much and considered just as corrupt. That is the new way down here.
 

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GW is just hated by the left because that is what they do. The next Republican President will be hated just as much and considered just as corrupt. That is the new way down here.


George W Bush made the fatal mistake of ignoring science when he lead the 'failed expedition into Iraq." Directional drilling was drastically increasing America's domestic supply of oil and gas- and a tamed down Sadamn Hussein was a counterweight to Iran.

The Iraq war came close to crippling America's economy for no usefull reason. The costs were huge.
 

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GW is just hated by the left because that is what they do. The next Republican President will be hated just as much and considered just as corrupt. That is the new way down here.


George W Bush made the fatal mistake of ignoring science when he lead the 'failed expedition into Iraq." Directional drilling was drastically increasing America's domestic supply of oil and gas- and a tamed down Sadamn Hussein was a counterweight to Iran.

The Iraq war came close to crippling America's economy for no usefull reason. The costs were huge.
 

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GW is just hated by the left because that is what they do. The next Republican President will be hated just as much and considered just as corrupt. That is the new way down here.


I fail to see a great return, except to make a lot of American's cynical about the Republican party The 9-11 terrorists came from Asir. Asir has some old grievances against Saudi Arabia.....
 
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Spoken by a Republican -:)

Un-enrolled... but I tend to vote Republican except for my Congressman Steve Lynch who is a conservative democrat.

I liked Clinton

I could not stand Carter and do not think much of the current administration.

George W Bush made the fatal mistake of ignoring science when he lead the 'failed expedition into Iraq." Directional drilling was drastically increasing America's domestic supply of oil and gas- and a tamed down Sadamn Hussein was a counterweight to Iran.

The Iraq war came close to crippling America's economy for no useful reason. The costs were huge.

I agree that we should not have gone into Iraq. But the expedition wasn't a failure... long and bloody but not the Vietnam people were hoping for.
 

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Well, they did get rid of a few bad bastards in Iraq, including Saddam and his two sons. That has to be worth something.
 

Kreskin

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I liked Reagan but he had the privilege of taking the low hanging fruit. The country had very little debt. Throwing public money at anything was easy and pain-free in the with short-term. Everyone knew the piper would have to be paid sooner or later, but that would become someone else's problem - not his.
 

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At what cost?

At what savings may be the more appropriate question. While Saddam was in power he was killing on average over 30,000 of his own citizens annually.

I liked Reagan but he had the privilege of taking the low hanging fruit. The country had very little debt. Throwing public money at anything was easy and pain-free in the with short-term. Everyone knew the piper would have to be paid sooner or later, but that would become someone else's problem - not his.

I liked Ronnie mainly for one reason as intangible as it may be. He had that aura of optimism about him.
 

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At what savings may be the more appropriate question. While Saddam was in power he was killing on average over 30,000 of his own citizens annually.



I liked Ronnie mainly for one reason as intangible as it may be. He had that aura of optimism about him.
It was easy to be optimistic if you start with a fresh slate and toss public money at everything. How can short term prosperity not happen? Sooner or later someone has to stop spending, AND, make the mortgage payment. That's the hard part.
 

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At what savings may be the more appropriate question. While Saddam was in power he was killing on average over 30,000 of his own citizens annually.
About 10% of the number who kill each other in the utter chaos Iraq has been left in.
 

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About 10% of the number who kill each other in the utter chaos Iraq has been left in.


Ayyyuh.....
 

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The mess in Iraq now is worse than when Saddam was there. Prior to that we
had a group of cutthroat leaders who were scared of Iraq now no one is afraid
of anyone. In a region where life is depended on fear, it destabilizes the area.
Reagan was the worst as he destroyed the first world's economy with the utter
nonsense of free trade. We lost manufacturing and other high paid jobs and
allowed companies to dismantle our way of life and reduce our standard of
living. I agree with competition but not when it comes to reducing our living
standards and having an international race to the bottom.
Reagan started this whole thing along with the other clowns like Mulroney and
the wind bag Maggie Thatcher. They did more harm and backed more despots
that opened the door for us to make all kinds of deals with the Devil in China
and the Middle East. George Bush was not the worst, he was a puppet for the
Vice President. Reagan was the worst
 

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Its hard to say who was the worst.. its almost impossible to see a difference between ANY U.S. President since Nixon. Reagan might be excused since he was in the early stages of Alzheimers and quite unaware of where he was or what he was doing most of the time. George H.W. Bush was the most uninspiring.. but his kid gave him a run for the the title. Carter was utterly bizarre.. but really its just been a litany of incompetence and failure for 40 years.
 
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Bush made the top twenty in only two categories, luck (18th) and willingness to take risks (19th), and he sits in the bottom five in 12 of the 20 categories, notably 42nd in intelligence, foreign policy accomplishments, and communication ability. Lonnstrom points out the unpopular former president has time on his side, explaining it takes four or five decades to know a president's true worth. "Right now there's a lot of emotion about Bush," he says. "Time passes and people become more objective, and so we'll see."

Franklin D. Roosevelt has held his title as top president since 1982 with the same four following to round out the consistent top five: Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson.

Joining Bush in the bottom five this year are Franklin Pierce, Warren G. Harding, James Buchanan, and Andrew Johnson, who is at the very bottom for the second year in a row.

The survey, which ranks presidents using 20 different factors, shows Jefferson was the most intelligent president, Richard Nixon was the worst at integrity and avoiding crucial mistakes, Lincoln had the best overall ability, and Washington was the best leader.

Here's the full list*:

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt

2. Theodore Roosevelt

3. Abraham Lincoln

4. George Washington

5. Thomas Jefferson

6. James Madison

7. James Monroe

8. Woodrow Wilson

9. Harry Truman

10. Dwight D. Eisenhower

11. John F. Kennedy

12. James K. Polk

13. William Clinton

14. Andrew Jackson

15. Barack Obama

16. Lyndon B. Johnson

17. John Adams

18. Ronald Reagan

19. John Quincy Adams

20. Grover Cleveland

21. William McKinley

22. George H. W. Bush

23. Martin Van Buren

24. William Howard Taft

25. Chester Arthur

26. Ulysses S. Grant

27. James Garfield

28. Gerald Ford

29. Calvin Coolidge

30. Richard Nixon

31. Rutherford B. Hayes

32. James Carter

33. Zachary Taylor

34. Benjamin Harrison

35. William Henry Harrison

36. Herbert Hoover

37. John Tyler

38. Millard Fillmore

39. George W. Bush

40. Franklin Pierce

41. Warren G. Harding

42. James Buchanan

43. Andrew Johnson

- Survey Ranks Obama 15th Best President, Bush Among Worst - US News and World Report

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair's wife, Cherie Blair (nee Booth), is the great-great-great-granddaughter of John Wilkes Booth, the guy who assassinated Abraham Lincoln.

So? You trying to suggest that Brits make the best assassins or something?