Every sin is a disgrace

[Torch light]

The sin is in fact a disgrace for the sinner: every act of God's disobedience is a sin which is a disgrace for the one who commits it.

Sins are two categories: major and minor; the major is every sin to which is a due punishment, and every sin which is the contradiction of God's commandments.

The Ten Commandments:
Don't associate anyone or anything with God in the worship.
Obey the parents.
Don't murder.
Don't steal.
Don't commit adultery.
Don't give a false testimony or witness... etc.

Major sins also include the transgression on other people: the neighbors and relatives and all other people who did not transgress on you.

The disgrace of the sinner will be in the life of the World: he will be exposed before people and people will know sooner or later about the sinner.
And the disgrace of the sinner will be in the Next Life: the sinner will be exposed among souls and will be despised.

 

[Danbones]

Moccasins are Ok though, right?

The design of mine is several thousand years older than Gawd...so they have no soles.

 

[Torch light]

God is the Eternal: none before Him, and the Last: none after Him.

Quran 57: 3, which means:
(He is the First [: no god before Him], and the Last [: no god after Him], and the Dominant, and the Invisible, and He is Most Aware about all things.)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_3
quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_3

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The sin leads to remorse: indicating it was not wise, and not correct.
The sinner wishes he did not commit the sin.
The repentance means: the sinner decides he will not repeat the sin once again.

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Quran 3: 193-194, which means:
(193. "Our Lord, we have heard a caller [: Mohammed] calling to the belief, [saying:] "Believe in your Lord [alone]"; so we have believed. Our Lord, forgive us then our [past] sins, and conceal our [future] offences, and [after death] take us to You among the pious."

194."Our Lord, offer to us that [prosperity of Paradise] which You have promised us with, by [the words of] Your messengers, and disgrace us not [by exposing our offences before souls] on the Day of Judgment; for You never break Your promise [to us.]")

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_193
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_193

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Also Prophet Abraham - salam to him - said as in the Quran 26: 87, which means:
("And bring not shame on me on the day [of death] when they will be sent [from their bodies to the Afterlife e.])
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87 e The meaning: Let me not be naked among souls, but give me one of Paradise dresses so that I may wear and cover my shame with it.

That is because when man dies, he will be naked among souls unless the angels may bring to him an ethereal dress from Paradise, so he will wear and cover his shame with it.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/26.htm#a26_87
quran-ayat.com/pret/26.htm#a26_87

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God will expose the disbeliever in the life of the World and in the Next Life:

Quran 9: 2, which means:
(And know that you cannot frustrate [the will of] God, and that God will degrade [and abase] the unbelievers.)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_2
quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_2

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Quran 16: 27, which means:
(Then on the Day of Judgment He will disgrace them [before the public] and [the angel in charge of their punishment] will say: "Where are my associates, for whose sake you opposed [the believers and whom you defended]?"

Those [prophets] who were given knowledge said [to them in their material life of the World]: "The disgrace and evil, this day, are for disbelievers.")

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/16.htm#a16_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/16.htm#a16_27

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Comment: God will let the idolater and atheist be exposed and disgraced in the life of the World in many instances; this includes me when I was enthusiastic about Imam Ali: I was in many bad situations, of which I now wish that I had not been enthusiastic (like the idolater), and then by His grace, He saved and honored me with His favor.

And when I remember my sins and mistakes, I wish I had not done that, and know that I had been in great error because of my past enthusiasm and glorifying those else than God Most Gracious.

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Therefore, every wise man should not be against God by ascribing sons or daughters or peers to God, and should not deny God the Creator or else God will expose and degrade him before the community by many ways.

On the contrary, all wise people have to be with God alone without glorifying anyone besides Him, so as to ensure for themselves good consequences in the life of the World and in the Next Life.

Quran 8: 24, which means:
(And know that God intervenes between man and his heart b)
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24 b So don't think that – merely by saying "we are Muslims" but you do not struggle in the cause of God – you will be admitted into Paradise, because He may change your opinions and doctrines then He will not admit you into Paradise.]

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/8.htm#a8_24
quran-ayat.com/pret/8.htm#a8_24

 

[darkbeaver]

God is the Eternal: none before Him, and the Last: none after Him.

Quran 57: 3, which means:
(He is the First [: no god before Him], and the Last [: no god after Him], and the Dominant, and the Invisible, and He is Most Aware about all things.)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_3
quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_3

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The sin leads to remorse: indicating it was not wise, and not correct.
The sinner wishes he did not commit the sin.
The repentance means: the sinner decides he will not repeat the sin once again.

==============================================

Quran 3: 193-194, which means:
(193. "Our Lord, we have heard a caller [: Mohammed] calling to the belief, [saying:] "Believe in your Lord [alone]"; so we have believed. Our Lord, forgive us then our [past] sins, and conceal our [future] offences, and [after death] take us to You among the pious."

194."Our Lord, offer to us that [prosperity of Paradise] which You have promised us with, by [the words of] Your messengers, and disgrace us not [by exposing our offences before souls] on the Day of Judgment; for You never break Your promise [to us.]")

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_193
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_193

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Also Prophet Abraham - salam to him - said as in the Quran 26: 87, which means:
("And bring not shame on me on the day [of death] when they will be sent [from their bodies to the Afterlife e.])
..................................................................

87 e The meaning: Let me not be naked among souls, but give me one of Paradise dresses so that I may wear and cover my shame with it.

That is because when man dies, he will be naked among souls unless the angels may bring to him an ethereal dress from Paradise, so he will wear and cover his shame with it.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/26.htm#a26_87
quran-ayat.com/pret/26.htm#a26_87

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God will expose the disbeliever in the life of the World and in the Next Life:

Quran 9: 2, which means:
(And know that you cannot frustrate [the will of] God, and that God will degrade [and abase] the unbelievers.)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_2
quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_2

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Quran 16: 27, which means:
(Then on the Day of Judgment He will disgrace them [before the public] and [the angel in charge of their punishment] will say: "Where are my associates, for whose sake you opposed [the believers and whom you defended]?"

Those [prophets] who were given knowledge said [to them in their material life of the World]: "The disgrace and evil, this day, are for disbelievers.")

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/16.htm#a16_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/16.htm#a16_27

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Comment: God will let the idolater and atheist be exposed and disgraced in the life of the World in many instances; this includes me when I was enthusiastic about Imam Ali: I was in many bad situations, of which I now wish that I had not been enthusiastic (like the idolater), and then by His grace, He saved and honored me with His favor.

And when I remember my sins and mistakes, I wish I had not done that, and know that I had been in great error because of my past enthusiasm and glorifying those else than God Most Gracious.

==========================================================

Therefore, every wise man should not be against God by ascribing sons or daughters or peers to God, and should not deny God the Creator or else God will expose and degrade him before the community by many ways.

On the contrary, all wise people have to be with God alone without glorifying anyone besides Him, so as to ensure for themselves good consequences in the life of the World and in the Next Life.

Quran 8: 24, which means:
(And know that God intervenes between man and his heart b)
....................................................................

24 b So don't think that – merely by saying "we are Muslims" but you do not struggle in the cause of God – you will be admitted into Paradise, because He may change your opinions and doctrines then He will not admit you into Paradise.]

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/8.htm#a8_24
quran-ayat.com/pret/8.htm#a8_24

Forgive me but there seems to be a great accumulation of ancient peoples belief/creation stories that disagree with your assumption about who or what God is or is not. God is risen up out of the primordial waters El, Elohim and a hundred other extant peoples have his name and he is of Saturn they say. So the eternal water is the mother of God so to speak. Our creator God rose out of those same waters. You are a bit of a shjt disturber for your particular God/Creator figure, something no true God requires by the way. You have what I think is a case of messiah syndrome/complex which of course you aint or you would spend zero time here and instesd help the poor and feed the hungry instead of boring the already elevated minds here at CCC with your preaching. Clean your own fukkin stable and we,ll shovel our own out thankyou.

 

[Gilgamesh]

The sin is in fact a disgrace for the sinner: every act of God's disobedience is a sin which is a disgrace for the one who commits it.

Sins are two categories: major and minor; the major is every sin to which is a due punishment, and every sin which is the contradiction of God's commandments.

The Ten Commandments:
Don't associate anyone or anything with God in the worship.
Obey the parents.
Don't murder.
Don't steal.
Don't commit adultery.
Don't give a false testimony or witness... etc.

Major sins also include the transgression on other people: the neighbors and relatives and all other people who did not transgress on you.

The disgrace of the sinner will be in the life of the World: he will be exposed before people and people will know sooner or later about the sinner.
And the disgrace of the sinner will be in the Next Life: the sinner will be exposed among souls and will be despised.

God does not exist.

 

[darkbeaver]

God does not exist.

Nonsence, the God the creator definitely exists but the definition defies most minds because they have educations.

 

[JLM]

Nonsence, the God the creator definitely exists but the definition defies most minds because they have educations.

This thread has gone 6 posts too far already! Deep six it!

 

[darkbeaver]

This thread has gone 6 posts too far already! Deep six it!

But God has told me to help him overcome his complex. He phoned me a few days ago when he was unable to interupt my pot induce dreaming. He mentioned something about 36 virgins if I was able to help our demented fellow poster.

Lettuce begin with the posters premise.

every sin is a disgrace

This is patently untrue of course because it eliminates the cause of error where one may be judged to be innocent of intent to sin. Not having endured the benifit of instruction a child will err should that babe be killed on the spot or should it be corrected by gods gentle and attentive patient instruction/correction? Let us understand as well that uninformed children come in all ages.

 

[gopher]

♪ ♫ ♬ They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun
You know that only the good die young
I tell ya
Only the good die young ♪ ♫ ♬

 

[Gilgamesh]

But God has told me to help him overcome his complex. He phoned me a few days ago when he was unable to interupt my pot induce dreaming. He mentioned something about 36 virgins if I was able to help our demented fellow poster.

Lettuce begin with the posters premise. This is patently untrue of course because it eliminates the cause of error where one may be judged to be innocent of intent to sin. Not having endured the benifit of instruction a child will err should that babe be killed on the spot or should it be corrected by gods gentle and attentive patient instruction/correction? Let us understand as well that uninformed children come in all ages.

You are insane.

Actions are not approved because they are moral. They are judged moral because they are approved.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs.

Not once in history has even the slightest hint of proof of a Big Head In The Sky existing.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

 

[Danbones]

Looks like we have a brain dead ignorant nut bar on the forum DB.

Reminds one of Avro doesn't he?

Hey bud:

 

[Torch light]

♪ ♫ ♬ They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun
You know that only the good die young
I tell ya
Only the good die young ♪ ♫ ♬

Is this your intelligence and you are glad!? ♪ ♫ ♬
Am I the ignorant or you, the drunkard!?
So you will remorse, but uselessly and bad!
I thought you somewhat may understad!

Looks like we have a brain dead ignorant nut bar on the forum DB.

Now, I am certain, as was I before,
that you, Christians, are the misguided and in extreme error ..
and you, Jews, against whom God is Wrathful.

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Quran 43: 6-8, which mean:
(6. But how many were the prophets We sent amongst the previous generations?

7. And whenever a Prophet came to them, they mocked at him [as have your people mocked you, Mohammed.]

8. Consequently, we terminated the people who were even mightier than these [: your people.]
As such have We told you the example of the previous generations [of disbelievers whom We had destroyed.])

More explanation:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/43.htm#a43_6
quran-ayat.com/pret/43.htm#a43_6

Actions are not approved because they are moral. They are judged moral because they are approved.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs.

Now, I know that you are a big philosopher .. what's all this fluent talk!?

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

These are the words of the atheist leader suggested to him by Satan his master .. and your master whom you will be obliged to serve in the Afterlife.

What evil you mean?

Forgive me but there seems to be a great accumulation of ancient peoples belief/creation stories that disagree with your assumption about who or what God is or is not. God is risen up out of the primordial waters El, Elohim and a hundred other extant peoples have his name and he is of Saturn they say. So the eternal water is the mother of God so to speak. Our creator God rose out of those same waters.

Leave the ancients and their confusion, and think yourself: God the Creator is All-Knowing and All-Hearing and All-Seeing what you mock and blaspheme which will not avail you anything against the truth.

You are a bit of a shjt disturber for your particular God/Creator figure, something no true God requires by the way. You have what I think is a case of messiah syndrome/complex which of course you aint or you would spend zero time here and instesd help the poor and feed the hungry instead of boring the already elevated minds here at CCC with your preaching. Clean your own fukkin stable and we,ll shovel our own out thankyou.

The Quran teachings inviting people to God alone .. the word of truth will profit the God-fearing, but will not avail the ungodly.

Therefore, it is not intended for "the highly elevated minds at CCF", the arrogant and proud over God the Most High .. these are certainly above my humble reach .. but may be intended to visitors who browse the web, and it maybe the advice will avail the righteous believer.
www.quran-ayat.com
quran-ayat.com

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Lastly for now, I cite God's word in the Quran 18: 56, which means:

(We send not messengers [to bring to you the miracles that you demand], but only to bear the glad tidings, and to warn.

But those who disbelieve do only dispute with falsehood [defending their corrupt doctrines] in order to disprove [with their wrangling] the truth [brought by Mohammed.]

And they took – My revelations [of the Quran] and [the punishment] of which they are warned – as a jest.)

More explanation of this aya:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/18.htm#a18_56
quran-ayat.com/pret/18.htm#a18_56

 

[gopher]

Is this your intelligence and you are glad!? ♪ ♫ ♬
Am I the ignorant or you, the drunkard!?
So you will remorse, but uselessly and bad!
I thought you somewhat may understad!

I don't make it a point of telling others how to run their lives as a person's lifestyle is their business, not mine. Purveyors of ''morality'', more often than not, are people who are insecure and inclined to make such efforts to hide their misconduct. Case in point: Bill Cosby. Happens all the time.

Live and let live. That's what I believe in.

 

[Danbones]

Those that don't learn to live together will die together.

 

[JLM]

I'm just wondering if there's a point to this thread and if so WHAT?