EU bans Seal Products from Canada

[TenPenny]

Arlene McCarthy, who chairs the European Parliament's internal market and consumer protection committee said Canada and others could not ignore the fact that a majority of Europeans are against the hunt and wanted it banned.
She added that concern took precedence over the concerns of sealers, fishermen and Inuit groups that carry out commercial hunts.
"While we of course have sympathy for those particular groups of people, the reality is that we sit here in the European Parliament and that millions of our citizens would like us to do the right thing and ban the cruel trade. They do not want to buy these products," she said


Here’s an idea: if millions of Europeans don’t want to buy seal products, they don’t have to. No one is forcing them to.

And her assertion that Canada and others ‘could not ignore the fact’ that Europeans are against the hunt simply means that she believes thate Europe should be able to set the rules for other countries’ actions. Sorry, but those colonial days are gone.

 

[MHz]

Sorry, but those colonial days are gone.

Really, we tell other countries how to act and we punish them if they don't toe the line.

 

[captain morgan]

And there is no contradiction in exterminating household pests and protecting animals in the wild. Vermin or household pests do spread disease, allergies etc. Besides, buildings are not a natural habitat of these creatures. There is nothing wrong in getting rid of them from the unnatural habitat.

You are incorrect in this area SJP. The reality is that all animals (incl humanity) do spread disease and contribute to the cross-species impact(s).

Rats, mice and mosquitos are the 'whipping-boys', however, as we've seen in the past with bird-flu, wasting disease (Elk) {translates into Yakub Kreutzfeldt's Disease in humans}, beaver Fever, let alone the opportunity for disease or illness caused through exposure from fecal matter from those animals (deer, raccoons, etc) that venture into urban areas.

Vermin are considered 'dirty' in name only.

 

[TenPenny]

Really, we tell other countries how to act and we punish them if they don't toe the line.

True. You're absolutely, 100 percent right. One couldn't assail your logic there.

 

[captain morgan]

Arlene McCarthy, who chairs the European Parliament's internal market and consumer protection committee said Canada and others could not ignore the fact that a majority of Europeans are against the hunt and wanted it banned.
She added that concern took precedence over the concerns of sealers, fishermen and Inuit groups that carry out commercial hunts.
"While we of course have sympathy for those particular groups of people, the reality is that we sit here in the European Parliament and that millions of our citizens would like us to do the right thing and ban the cruel trade. They do not want to buy these products," she said


Here’s an idea: if millions of Europeans don’t want to buy seal products, they don’t have to. No one is forcing them to.

And her assertion that Canada and others ‘could not ignore the fact’ that Europeans are against the hunt simply means that she believes thate Europe should be able to set the rules for other countries’ actions. Sorry, but those colonial days are gone.

I wonder what Arlene McCarthy's position is on the purchase of cosmetics that are tested on animals... Certainly the same Europeans that are against the seal hunt are against using rabbits, dogs, cats and chimpanzees to test the products and once finished, the carcass is disposed of as a bio-hazard.

I doubt that the EU will ban these products despite the animals being live test subjects that live a prolonged excruciating pain.

Bloody hypocrites.

 

[MHz]

True. You're absolutely, 100 percent right. One couldn't assail your logic there.

WOW, I got one right, finally after all these years. lol That makes 1/2430

Somebody mentioned farming, what are we doing with the Hudson Bay. Grain fed fish, (organically grown because we are also organic), by overfeeding and overstocking them the are harvestible, compared to the wild where they are more for tourism. More than enough for man and beast. To make the game a bit more fair, if you want white fur you have to catch your own. The twist is you get no more than a club and instead of a white baby seal you have to choose from a white baby Polar Bear whose mother is ....standing right there. Everybody wins.

Why not turn the bay into one huge fish-farm. well protected from foreign poachers.

Allowing a huge seal population might be the best thing for the Grand Banks. The toxins that still leak from ships sunk in WWII might be leaking for even more decades. That may impact a quick recovery as culling seals hasn't had the desired effect so far. Tourism of Europeans swimming with seals might even turn a buck of two for those who like the being on the sea

 

[TenPenny]

WOW, I got one right, finally after all these years. lol That makes 1/2430

Somebody mentioned farming, what are we doing with the Hudson Bay. Grain fed fish, (organically grown because we are also organic), by overfeeding and overstocking them the are harvestible, compared to the wild where they are more for tourism. More than enough for man and beast. To make the game a bit more fair, if you want white fur you have to catch your own. The twist is you get no more than a club and instead of a white baby seal you have to choose from a white baby Polar Bear whose mother is ....standing right there. Everybody wins.

Why not turn the bay into one huge fish-farm. well protected from foreign poachers.

Allowing a huge seal population might be the best thing for the Grand Banks. The toxins that still leak from ships sunk in WWII might be leaking for even more decades. That may impact a quick recovery as culling seals hasn't had the desired effect so far. Tourism of Europeans swimming with seals might even turn a buck of two for those who like the being on the sea

What I don't get is why killing farm raised animals is okay, but not those from the wild.

 

[taxslave]

SoI guess when the Eurotrash find out that the lobsters and crabs they eat are tossed into a pot of boiling water live they will quit eating these? How about prawns or salmon that so many people love? How about catch and release fishing where about 30% die? Want to know how they are treated on a fish boat? Is fox hunting still OK if the fox lives?

 

[MHz]

Only one version is renewable and some human effort is required before the harvest.
I recall one year there were mass protest, even interference on the water. In the end the cull was shortened. A week later a storm blew some 10,000 baby seals off some island in the St/ Lawrence and into the Atlantic, pretty much stunned everybody into silence.

 

[ironsides]

Animal products for human consumption is one thing, torturing a animal for entertainment is obscene.

MHz: Perfect reply. "Yeah there is hogs are eaten, baby seals are a decoration for the rich."

 

[MHz]

SoI guess when the Eurotrash find out that the lobsters and crabs they eat are tossed into a pot of boiling water live they will quit eating these? How about prawns or salmon that so many people love? How about catch and release fishing where about 30% die? Want to know how they are treated on a fish boat? Is fox hunting still OK if the fox lives?

I assume their main reason is they think a live seal is prettier when drawing breath and then when being worn an an accessory by a human. I had some mittens that had some seal-skin for a nose-wiper. I didn't feel sorry for the seal nor did I want to rush out and have a seal-burger, as it was I liked the gift and thought my old coffee-cup with a lid was inferior to the mitts. When they wore out I bought some that had a different material for the nose.
A question, do you support trophy hunting?

 

[mt_pockets1000]

Only one version is renewable and some human effort is required before the harvest.
I recall one year there were mass protest, even interference on the water. In the end the cull was shortened. A week later a storm blew some 10,000 baby seals off some island in the St/ Lawrence and into the Atlantic, pretty much stunned everybody into silence.

Mother nature can be so brutal and uncaring at times. Is there any way we can protest and stop the biatch from wasting so much life? If the seal herd had been regulated back to reasonable numbers perhaps there would only have been 5000 baby seals on that fateful island in the St. Lawrence and the tragedy would not have been so severe.
Anyway, in the next 10 years we will be inundated with these pesky, whiskery ocean rats. We will surely be stunned when mother nature unleashes one of her wrathful storms and wipes out 50,000 of them in one fell swoop.

 

[Johnnny]

i saw this from earlier:

dolphin whale slaughter faroe islands

denmark? ---> EU ?????

Is it true people on the faroe islands slaughter dolphins, and the faroe islands are part of denmark?

 

[Colpy]

Also, it is not true about animal being cute. Look at crocodile, by no stretch of imagination can crocodile be considered cute. Yet they stopped killing crocodiles in Australia, they were in the process of being wiped out. Now they raise crocodiles on the farms, and use crocodile meat, crocodile skin (for making shores, purses etc.) and other parts.

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I remember years ago reading a Guns and Ammo article about Jeff Cooper shooting crocs. The next month there was a huge letter-writing protest in defence of the "endangered" crocodile, pages of the magazine were dedicated to a cross-section of these letters........Cooper's response was short and to the point: "Crocodiles kill 3,000 people a year in Africa. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't endangered enough." :smile:

 

[MHz]

Anyway, in the next 10 years we will be inundated with these pesky, whiskery ocean rats. We will surely be stunned when mother nature unleashes one of her wrathful storms and wipes out 50,000 of them in one fell swoop.

By that time the sea will be full of seal eaters and then we catch them and eat them, Killer Whales aggressively protect their food sources, and hunter pack rarely number over 200 in the adult (40ft)variety. I would also be quite careful about approaching the new-borns. If you want to swim jump in with the young adults, you can water-ski on their bow-wave.

Is there something about Hudson Bay that is forbidden to explore?
It is huge and it doesn't bring in a nickle, American's thought the desert was a wasteland, they found some uses for it. There are not 10 word/year printed about the Bay. Even the newest GoogleEarth has it as one color with no botton. Water should more valuable than dead earth. Siberian Chinook winds could certainly be captured to make some bubbles so the fish don't die when fully stocked. There are none on the Grand Banks because......

Even when frozen over it could draw a certain type of crowd. How about a month long tour, we supply the gas at the bear-proof way-stations (broadband included), you have to agree to wear a suit that monitors your heath (people losing parts to the frost is bad for insurance rates)

How many tourists would it take to make $16M/yr? That would bring in how much for the boats that would otherwise be beached? Set up some live-cams for the ones of us that have better things to do with our money.

Walking next to a colony might be worth some real monet to the same ones who would normally buy the furs. On web-cam 24/7 people should be able to identify some if it is the same group. At $3/mo you have to have way more customers than the boats could ever carry. The boaters would maintain the physical cameras and somebody in Nebraska could man the web-site (they will work for less than cetain unnamed over-seas places). Presto as long as people like animals and there is HD there is money to be made. I hear the Amazonian mosquito soundtrack (#7)is doing great at the meditaion places but not so well in the bars (causes slapping and scratching and general auto body functions like that. Soundtrack #83 (panther eating) is better at the bars than at the mediation places (also the 1st over-18 only nature video)

After they (tourists) go home the storms still come around and sweep the ones that cannot find high ground off into the deep waters where the migrate till they find the Saragossa Sea starting a new strain that live at sea 24/7, either that or they are eaten after drowning.


What is the difference between the Arctic Seals and the Amazon's tree-top monkeys, everybody thinks babies and animals are cute. Other than a few "Oh, Ahs, WoW's", what do you expect for $3.

Crocs are cute when there is a telephoto close-up on the teeth and you can see a few babies running around on her tongue. From a distance it looks like she is eating them.

The money was made via getting the photo, from the camera maker to the waitress who brought the beers at the end of the day.

 

[Blackleaf]

I don't understand the headline. The EU has banned seal product imports. They haven't, and don't have the ability, to ban a seal hunt in a foreign country.

The EU has banned seal products, although we lag far behind the United States in taking action, which prohibited seal products trade from Canada and elsewhere way back in 1972 (so it's not just those pesky Euros).

The Parliament voted for a strong Regulation that will eliminate the placing of seal products on the EU market, closing a primary market for Canada's commercial seal hunt.

The EU is the world's largest economy ($18.39 trillion, compared to America's $14.3 trillion), and accounts for one-third of reported seal skin exports. This ban will therefore have a devastating effect on the Canadian seal slaughtering industry.

The regulation will go into effect next year.

 

[Blackleaf]

Can't we have a viable seal industry the way we do chickens, beef, potatoes without threatening the species?

Or just make synthetic fur.

 

[L Gilbert]

I wouldn't woprry about what the EU thinks or does. We have just as much right to squawk about things they do as they do about what we do. Lookit that slaughter Denmark performs on all those dolphins every year. What's the diff?
Dolphin & Whale Massacre: Denmark Iceland Norway (Graphic!!)

 

[Johnnny]

LOL yea who cares about what the euros think... Its those two french islands off of newfoundland that are making the Euros think they can run our east coast.

I was reading that norway isnt part of the EU, but is part of alot of trade, economy commisions etc etc...

Norway also is getting strong armed... They are going to the WTO to fight the ban...

 

[Johnnny]

lol no sense in trying to talk some sense into the euros, they have the worlds biggest economy and go strong arm whoever they want....